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#21 Paul55

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

Maybe I missed something but what is everyone talking about, other than the Flinner/ Hodgkiss posts, thats the only thing I seen.

I was wondering samething. That's only thing I notice! All other stuff is pretty much everyone own opinions and last I thought that was what a message bored was for.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 02:23 PM

I know my opinion doesnt matter but if I had the choice of someone talking bad about me on the internet but racing me clean on the race track or a guy who says nothing on the internet but trys destroying my car on the race track id rather they run their mouth on the internet. Make sure everyone comes out for the $5000.00 to win UFO show this week !!! Just to make sure is the slm parft of the show topless also or just the crate lates ?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:10 PM

I know my opinion doesnt matter but if I had the choice of someone talking bad about me on the internet but racing me clean on the race track or a guy who says nothing on the internet but trys destroying my car on the race track id rather they run their mouth on the internet. Make sure everyone comes out for the $5000.00 to win UFO show this week !!! Just to make sure is the slm parft of the show topless also or just the crate lates ?

Was not at the track Sat., wondered if Flinner was penalized at all for punting Jon? If not, why?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 03:50 PM

I know my opinion doesnt matter but if I had the choice of someone talking bad about me on the internet but racing me clean on the race track or a guy who says nothing on the internet but trys destroying my car on the race track id rather they run their mouth on the internet. Make sure everyone comes out for the $5000.00 to win UFO show this week !!! Just to make sure is the slm parft of the show topless also or just the crate lates ?



I think it is just the crate lates, dont hold me to that but I am pretty sure thats it... again I may be wrong

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:16 PM

I think it is just the crate lates, dont hold me to that but I am pretty sure thats it... again I may be wrong

Only the SUPER LATES are topless........ not crates. The crates already did their topless race

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:18 PM

I know my opinion doesnt matter but if I had the choice of someone talking bad about me on the internet but racing me clean on the race track or a guy who says nothing on the internet but trys destroying my car on the race track id rather they run their mouth on the internet. Make sure everyone comes out for the $5000.00 to win UFO show this week !!! Just to make sure is the slm parft of the show topless also or just the crate lates ?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:41 PM

I've been on this board for 10 years now, but post much more infrequently these days. This place used to be fun, people would actually discuss racing and what went on at the weekly bull rings. Sure there was controversy, two people seeing the same racing incident, based on their own prejudices, preconceptions, and loyalties, will always have different ideas on what really happened. The discussion often got heated, but there were rarely any slanderous comments or things I would be embarrassed to have my kids read. Nowadays, everyone wants to be a smart-ass wise guy or just plain asshole. The only reason these policies even have to be considered is because lots of "adults" don't know how to police their own comments and behavior. In days gone by, there were many occasions where the racestudders got together and introduced each other, and chatted up a storm about our favorite pasttime, auto racing. I have met lots of great racing friends from my association with this forum. But based on the inane, sarcastic, and downright libellous comments that seem to be the norm these days, I'm not so sure I ever want to meet some of you folks. I get tired of the same old "freedom of speech" argument that is so misconstrued by so many of you. While you may not be put in jail for unpopular speech, such speech has consequences. Would any of you attend one of Pastor Beck's services and start interrupting his sermon, while shouting obscenities, and not expect to be removed from the premisis? Of course not. If such comments are going to be detrimental to a business, does the business owner just have to suck it up? Of course not. A little bit of restraint goes a long way, I hope some of you (a vocal minority) might take the hint. Keith E. Donnelly

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:51 PM

I've been on this board for 10 years now, but post much more infrequently these days. This place used to be fun, people would actually discuss racing and what went on at the weekly bull rings. Sure there was controversy, two people seeing the same racing incident, based on their own prejudices, preconceptions, and loyalties, will always have different ideas on what really happened. The discussion often got heated, but there were rarely any slanderous comments or things I would be embarrassed to have my kids read. Nowadays, everyone wants to be a smart-ass wise guy or just plain asshole.

The only reason these policies even have to be considered is because lots of "adults" don't know how to police their own comments and behavior. In days gone by, there were many occasions where the racestudders got together and introduced each other, and chatted up a storm about our favorite pasttime, auto racing. I have met lots of great racing friends from my association with this forum. But based on the inane, sarcastic, and downright libellous comments that seem to be the norm these days, I'm not so sure I ever want to meet some of you folks.

I get tired of the same old "freedom of speech" argument that is so misconstrued by so many of you. While you may not be put in jail for unpopular speech, such speech has consequences. Would any of you attend one of Pastor Beck's services and start interrupting his sermon, while shouting obscenities, and not expect to be removed from the premisis? Of course not. If such comments are going to be detrimental to a business, does the business owner just have to suck it up? Of course not. A little bit of restraint goes a long way, I hope some of you (a vocal minority) might take the hint.



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great post, everything you have always spoken on here I have respected. Your opinion is one of the better ones on here, and I tend to agree with you on almost everything you post because it is fair, and without sarcasm or 10th grade insults.

I will tell you, bad idea posting your name, now if Matt ever has one of those free racestud things you cant get in cause we know your name haha

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 04:58 PM

Can someone explain too me the relationship betWeen UFO and the previous promotor of the series? What happened too that series and why is he in charge of Hesston now?

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 05:55 PM

Matt you say you appreciate constructive feedback well maybe you need to take a tip from Lernerville and start DQ'ing people for rough driving to let them know it is not tolerated. Last 2 weeks you have had incidents where someone has driven through someone else and the black flag never came out.

your absotutely right. if they started DQ'ing people that kind of driving would stop..

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:07 PM

I've been on this board for 10 years now, but post much more infrequently these days. This place used to be fun, people would actually discuss racing and what went on at the weekly bull rings. Sure there was controversy, two people seeing the same racing incident, based on their own prejudices, preconceptions, and loyalties, will always have different ideas on what really happened. The discussion often got heated, but there were rarely any slanderous comments or things I would be embarrassed to have my kids read. Nowadays, everyone wants to be a smart-ass wise guy or just plain asshole.

The only reason these policies even have to be considered is because lots of "adults" don't know how to police their own comments and behavior. In days gone by, there were many occasions where the racestudders got together and introduced each other, and chatted up a storm about our favorite pasttime, auto racing. I have met lots of great racing friends from my association with this forum. But based on the inane, sarcastic, and downright libellous comments that seem to be the norm these days, I'm not so sure I ever want to meet some of you folks.

I get tired of the same old "freedom of speech" argument that is so misconstrued by so many of you. While you may not be put in jail for unpopular speech, such speech has consequences. Would any of you attend one of Pastor Beck's services and start interrupting his sermon, while shouting obscenities, and not expect to be removed from the premisis? Of course not. If such comments are going to be detrimental to a business, does the business owner just have to suck it up? Of course not. A little bit of restraint goes a long way, I hope some of you (a vocal minority) might take the hint.



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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:33 PM

We made a concious decision prior to the 2012 season that our PPMS Rules of Procedure would include the following.

WEBSITES & SOCIAL MEDIA: Any comments detrimental to Pittsburgh’s PA Motor Speedway or Miley Motor Sports Inc or any of its employees or competitors as determined by Miley Motor Sports may result in severe fines and/or banishment from the facilities.



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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:13 PM

your absotutely right. if they started DQ'ing people that kind of driving would stop..

There was an incident at mercer a couple weeks ago and they black flagged a guy for what they called a rough driving incident( i was in the race i didnt see what happenend) i believe in that call 100%....if u cant pass a guy without dumping him or moving him u shouldnt be on the track..take care of those issues with the flag and you wont have people on hear complaining on here about it...it needs handled at the top right from the start..jmo

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:20 PM

Freedom of speech. I hope your joking.


Great another partially educated idiot quoting the Constitution! Freedom of Speech is not absolute jackwagon. Freedom of speech does not permit you to commit libel or slander, (not that I expect you to even know what those two words mean, much less the difference between them!)

Read the entire Constitution, not just the headings! And if you still don't understand, ask someone who didn't have five shop classes in high school!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

There was an incident at mercer a couple weeks ago and they black flagged a guy for what they called a rough driving incident( i was in the race i didnt see what happenend) i believe in that call 100%....if u cant pass a guy without dumping him or moving him u shouldnt be on the track..take care of those issues with the flag and you wont have people on hear complaining on here about it...it needs handled at the top right from the start..jmo

This is honestly the correct answer the offending driver should be disqualifed and suspended for at least another week, that is the only way to stop this stuff. You would not find 1 person who has ever raced who would not have reacted poorly to being taken out for no reason. The best way to fix a problem is always to fix the cause of the problem, trying to fix a symptom of a problem without adressing the cause has never and will never solve the problem.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:41 PM

This is honestly the correct answer the offending driver should be disqualifed and suspended for at least another week, that is the only way to stop this stuff. You would not find 1 person who has ever raced who would not have reacted poorly to being taken out for no reason. The best way to fix a problem is always to fix the cause of the problem, trying to fix a symptom of a problem without adressing the cause has never and will never solve the problem.

EXACTLY!!!! Couldn't agree more...

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

Seems to be too many indians and not enough cheifs out there. Matt you are doing a great job bringing the fans back and making the track a thriving place. But the issue with rough driving needs addressed! It cannot be no holds barred out on the track. These drivers have too much time and money invested to go out and have their equipment torn up unnecessarily. If I was a driver and my car got wrecked for no reason I would be upset too. They have a black flag, don't be afraid to use it!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:26 PM

I agree...... there is absolutely no reason that cars should be getting tore up because of someone driving like a idiot.... I saw the whole deal with Hodgkiss ........ I do understand why he is pissed. It was stupid B.S. and his car got tore up for no reason...... I actually give him alot of respect for how he handled it

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

I agree...... there is absolutely no reason that cars should be getting tore up because of someone driving like a idiot.... I saw the whole deal with Hodgkiss ........ I do understand why he is pissed. It was stupid B.S. and his car got tore up for no reason...... I actually give him alot of respect for how he handled it

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

We made a concious decision prior to the 2012 season that our PPMS Rules of Procedure would include the following.

WEBSITES & SOCIAL MEDIA: Any comments detrimental to Pittsburgh’s PA Motor Speedway or Miley Motor Sports Inc or any of its employees or competitors as determined by Miley Motor Sports may result in severe fines and/or banishment from the facilities.


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