Glad I didn't waste time or money going there last fall. 100 laps of fastest car in the front single lane racing at its worst. I'm not sure dirt track racing translates to TV very well under the best conditions, but if the idea is to get it in front of new people and make new fans, that was a miserable failure. Figure skating would have been more entertaining.
DTWC
Started by sundance, Dec 16 2012 08:09 AM
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#1
Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:09 AM
#2
Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:48 AM
Glad I didn't waste time or money going there last fall. 100 laps of fastest car in the front single lane racing at its worst. I'm not sure dirt track racing translates to TV very well under the best conditions, but if the idea is to get it in front of new people and make new fans, that was a miserable failure. Figure skating would have been more entertaining.
I turned it off at lap 20, horrible.
#3
Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:49 AM
Have to agree it was a boring race!
(TEAM 14g/CAMPING-Paul Duratz)
#4
Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:32 AM
The issue was the Friday rainout and having to run the whole show in 1 day ...you have to understand these guys are all really really good .. It's not like a local show where the winner is a second faster than 10th..
#5
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:00 PM
The issue was the Friday rainout and having to run the whole show in 1 day ...you have to understand these guys are all really really good .. It's not like a local show where the winner is a second faster than 10th..
It looked like Owens was a second faster than 5th to me.
#6
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:05 PM
What channel was this on ?
If you ain't live'n life on the edge, yer taken up to much room.
#7
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:14 PM
SPEED
#8
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:17 PM
They were running 16 second laps and I didn't see him lap the 5th place car 6 times ...
#9
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:33 PM
That was a sad display, or what generally happens when you have professionals starting up front on a dry/slick track. Another fine example of a time trial show. Too many of these events are the same way. Good thing the Pens/Caps 2009 second round playoff series was shown in it's entirety on the NHL network. I knew the outcome, and it was far more entertaining.
#10
Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:58 PM
The last 2 DTWC races had the entire show condensed into 1 day , the format wasn't the problem the inclimate weather was the problemThat was a sad display, or what generally happens when you have professionals starting up front on a dry/slick track. Another fine example of a time trial show. Too many of these events are the same way. Good thing the Pens/Caps 2009 second round playoff series was shown in it's entirety on the NHL network. I knew the outcome, and it was far more entertaining.
#11
Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:32 PM
The heats and consis were excellent, it was just too much racing for one day. They made a mistake cancelling Friday night, they could have gotten it in. They pulled the plug way too early on Friday.
#12
Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:49 PM
With all due respect your smoking crack if you think we could have raced fridayThe heats and consis were excellent, it was just too much racing for one day. They made a mistake cancelling Friday night, they could have gotten it in. They pulled the plug way too early on Friday.
#13
Posted 16 December 2012 - 04:44 PM
Dirt track racing doesn't translate well on t.v. EVER. I like going to locall tracks but on t.v. its boring. Sorry. Be interesting to see how truck series turns out. Straight up-another flaw for middle America is that body styles look nothing like actual cars. Say wat u want but that's why it will never draw t.v. numbers. Another reason is that middle America can relate to driving down an asphalt road and racing as a teen on local highways- none of which has anything to do with dirt. Before u go beating me up-i regularly attend dirt races and enjoy them very much. I would move to see nascar bigboys have one on the points schedule every year
#14
Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:00 PM
They were running 16 second laps and I didn't see him lap the 5th place car 6 times ...
I think the 9 or so cautions may have helped keep that from happening.
#15
Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:21 PM
I think all of you guys need to man up and bring your ride to events like this and see how tough this stuff really is ...
#16
Posted 16 December 2012 - 10:02 PM
With all due respect your smoking crack if you think we could have raced friday
I've seen tracks get more rain than that and still race. They could have had the Friday night portion of the show in by 2 AM, it was only time trials and heats for the LM's.
#17
Posted 17 December 2012 - 03:11 AM
Most fans will not sit soaking wet and freezing cold till 2 am to watch heat races. It rained for 5 hours !!! And the track was soaked and heavy as hell before it even started raining ... Friday at the pittsburgher should have raced Friday at the DTWC absolutely notI've seen tracks get more rain than that and still race. They could have had the Friday night portion of the show in by 2 AM, it was only time trials and heats for the LM's.
Edited by TheLegend, 17 December 2012 - 03:12 AM.
#18
Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:01 PM
Dirt track racing doesn't translate well on t.v. EVER. I like going to locall tracks but on t.v. its boring. Sorry. Be interesting to see how truck series turns out. Straight up-another flaw for middle America is that body styles look nothing like actual cars. Say wat u want but that's why it will never draw t.v. numbers. Another reason is that middle America can relate to driving down an asphalt road and racing as a teen on local highways- none of which has anything to do with dirt. Before u go beating me up-i regularly attend dirt races and enjoy them very much. I would move to see nascar bigboys have one on the points schedule every year
I dont find that true at all. The issue I see with the translation to tv is they are trying so hard to bring an audience in but aren't quite sure how to do that. I believe NASCAR will be succesful at it because they are good at what they do for broadcasting. To make it successful the audience needs to become more involved in what is going on. start broadcasting the raceceiver over the air, talk to the crew cheif and give away their strategy to see how it plays out, if the field gets too spread out throw a caution for debris... and the biggest problem of all, it wasn't a live feed.
#19
Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:39 PM
I dont find that true at all. The issue I see with the translation to tv is they are trying so hard to bring an audience in but aren't quite sure how to do that. I believe NASCAR will be succesful at it because they are good at what they do for broadcasting. To make it successful the audience needs to become more involved in what is going on. start broadcasting the raceceiver over the air, talk to the crew cheif and give away their strategy to see how it plays out, if the field gets too spread out throw a caution for debris... and the biggest problem of all, it wasn't a live feed.
IMO I feel the biggest problem is that other than in our little corner of the racing World most people don't even realize what dirt racing is.
And I feel the reason is there is very little to absolutely no promotion or advertising to draw in interest to people outside the dirt racing community.
Heck it's like pulling teeth getting most local promoters and tracks to do any kind of promotion and advertising outside of a few message boards and websites.
And a lot of them can't/won't even use those free avenues to get the word out.
#20
Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:54 PM
IMO I feel the biggest problem is that other than in our little corner of the racing World most people don't even realize what dirt racing is.
And I feel the reason is there is very little to absolutely no promotion or advertising to draw in interest to people outside the dirt racing community.
Heck it's like pulling teeth getting most local promoters and tracks to do any kind of promotion and advertising outside of a few message boards and websites.
And a lot of them can't/won't even use those free avenues to get the word out.
good point, I never understood why their title was promoter, maybe its a title that was true before my time.
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