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#41 Golf

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:57 PM

I agree with Walt.  I would like to see more tracks run the handicap system.  It would make for better racing




 

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 12:41 PM

zero looser... walt has forgot more than you WILL EVER KNOW about local racing..  don't f#$%K with one of our  legends ( hope that turned out right..lol)  

 

as to HOW  YOU  call walt A BIGOT ????  maybe you should wear your pink vagina hat and seek out your safe space till the nov 8th scream in... douchebag



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 03:35 PM

The problem with handicapping is that it used to be based on qualifying times. When is the last time weekly show ran time trials around here? Maybe base it off of points, but then a WoO/Allstars/Lucas guy would come in and start on the pole on those nights when they are in the area, but not running a show that night. It could be done, but it may get complicated. 


My dad drove late models in the early 70's at North Hills, Butler, Mercer, Blanket Hill, and occasionally Tri City. We won the last late model track championship at Blanket Hill. 


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 03:36 PM

I have all the respect in the world for Sadie!!  She is just a rookie and been improving all season long.  My point all along is the guys that never improve year after year and continue to get lapped in a heat race.  This is more of a problem in the Sprint Cars than any other class.  One reason is there always seems to me more Sprint Cars way off the pace and the other is the speed of Sprint Cars and that they are open wheel race cars that can go flipping pretty easy.  I am concerned with driver safety!!    Speeds have gone up tremendously since the flathead Ford days when I was a kid, and the front running cars can be on top of a real slow car before they know it.    This whole topic started when I mentioned I still like handicap line-up for features, but only for the first 10-12 cars.  Unless the track has a very low car count, inverting the top 10-12 cars with a handicap system would keep just about all of the really off the pace guys back behind the fast cars so that the fast cars don't have to deal with them until lapping them when traffic is much more thinned out.   I don't think most drivers would go for a handicap system unless in just for a smaller number of cars, say 10-12 or even 8.  Such a system would give the fans much better racing and we all realize that without the paying fans in the grandstand, race tracks can't pay good purses for expensive cars to race!!

 

GOOD RACING TO ALL!!!

 

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I think we are actually in agreement. Not everyone is fast out of the chute, but some drivers never get better. You and I can both list names we are thinking of too. I agree those ones who are lappers year after year after year can be hazards. There was one who ran low in the corners and high in the straights and finished multiple laps down every week for a decade. I probably sucked all the air out of the town of Sarver multiple times for fast cars coming out of the corners and almost into that driver. It was like the little old lady scene in Ferris Buehler only at high speed and open wheels. 


Edited by FanJim24, 29 October 2017 - 04:03 PM.

My dad drove late models in the early 70's at North Hills, Butler, Mercer, Blanket Hill, and occasionally Tri City. We won the last late model track championship at Blanket Hill. 


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Posted 29 October 2017 - 08:41 PM

JimFan24............When we did handicap line-ups at Mercer back in the 70s, it was all by points. I was doing the points at the time and had to keep two sets of points, regular and handicap.  If a driver missed a night he got as many handicap points as the feature winner.  Miss three races and you go to the tail. Also tali if a first timer.  All rules to keep drivers from "playing" the system to get a better starting spot!!   Things like this can be done to level the playing field.

 

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:03 PM

It also keeps new cars and guys who don't run weekly from coming to your race track

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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:16 PM

When Mercer did their handicap it was based on points



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Posted 29 October 2017 - 09:34 PM

A lot of places up north handicap off the last three weeks results.
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Posted 30 October 2017 - 05:20 PM

zero looser... walt has forgot more than you WILL EVER KNOW about local racing..  don't f#$%K with one of our  legends ( hope that turned out right..lol)  

 

as to HOW  YOU  call walt A BIGOT ????  maybe you should wear your pink vagina hat and seek out your safe space till the nov 8th scream in... douchebag

You don't know me ! If someone as knowledgeable as Walt . Should know enough to have respect for all racers ! not some adolescent name calling . But then again i guess your a little boy also with the playground name calling . Crawford PUNK !  



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Posted 30 October 2017 - 07:35 PM

Mercer handicapped from points for the 3 previous  weeks too in the late 90's and early 2,000's



#51 ex9Ccrewguy

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 08:39 PM

luck off zero...



#52 Wolfie29

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:20 AM

luck off zero...

Zero has about as many brains as his site name, "ZERO".....



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 06:27 PM

I extend him my best JOHNNY FINGER... douchebag



#54 zero hero2

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:08 PM

Zero has about as many brains as his site name, "ZERO".....

HaHa !! Grow up !!!!! 



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Posted 01 November 2017 - 10:09 PM

luck off zero...

9C I think Walt was referring to you when you raced !  



#56 Walt Wimer

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:18 PM

zero...I don't know who 9C or you are!!!

 

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 07:45 AM

I extend him my best JOHNNY FINGER... douchebag

I'll double that.....



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 08:28 PM

im NOT doug Crawford douchebag



#59 Walt Wimer

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 09:49 PM

Don't think Doug Crawford has raced for quite some time!!  Has he???

 

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 01:21 PM

Doug Crawford has not raced for many moons.





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