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#41 FanJim24

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:23 PM

 

Once again your post is obviously biased. You say RUSH is destroying racing, yet it has kept people involved who would otherwise be out of the sport. I guess idiots like you and JO who go for the speed would rather see all those people hang it up. Since you guys have all the answers here maybe you two should get together and figure out how to fix the super late models so we can go back to the days of 30 cars a night. Good luck on that.

You should try reading what I post before you level accusations against me. 


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:26 PM

Ahhh yes, RUSH keeps these guys in the sport. If only there were things like limited lates, Big blocks, emods, economods, or pro stocks for these individuals to race..... What that statement really means is "in a late model" not "in the sport". More of the stretch things as far as we can rush taglines. Yes, that's on the drivers. nothing wrong with them wanting to run LM's but don't act like if it wasn't for rush there is no racing hope for said individuals....

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 05:40 PM

Ahhh yes, RUSH keeps these guys in the sport. If only there were things like limited lates, Big blocks, emods, economods, or pro stocks for these individuals to race..... What that statement really means is "in a late model" not "in the sport". More of the stretch things as far as we can rush taglines. Yes, that's on the drivers. nothing wrong with them wanting to run LM's but don't act like if it wasn't for rush there is no racing hope for said individuals....

...or like no one has left a division/track/racing over crate mandates. 


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:19 PM

open this, open that........mercer, who ran open cars, is closed........shut up you bunch of cry babies.......i'm going to the store to get tissues......my god are the three of you like pms'n women...........



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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:43 PM

Thank you for that insightful response as always, and for your continued lack of actual points or capitalization! I forgot that it is forbidden for any opinion that differs from the messiah be stated. We shall be forsaken for we have angered the ayatollah....... hold on, I didn't get enough dots in that the first time..................................... .................... see, what'd I say? Incapable of acknowledging an opposing view point. ¿No comprendes?

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 09:48 PM

open this, open that........mercer, who ran open cars, is closed........shut up you bunch of cry babies.......i'm going to the store to get tissues......my god are the three of you like pms'n women...........

Mercer closed because the owner doesn't want to run a racetrack anymore. The type of cars have exactly zero to do with the track closing. 


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Posted 15 April 2018 - 10:45 PM

Mercer closed because the owner doesn't want to run a racetrack anymore. The type of cars have exactly zero to do with the track closing. 

Because they were hemorrhaging money

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:24 PM

#24 That ladies is obviously the Donald Trump of Western Pa 200 mile radius buddy ! And Good Luck Swarty on the Penn/Ohio OPEN ( That word again! ) #28 from Pitssburgh Area and #10 Knicky Kachooba In fahette   When Bob is not running his RUSH crate and Being a Prime Sponsor !  .. thumbs up ! now let me pass please



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:58 AM

To have viewers of the show who do not contribute to racing except with their money at front and back gates there must be a show good enough to get ticket dollars. 

 

Will a weekly 'B' main and feature of Super Lates attract more ticket money then the same with Crate Lates?

 

The answer to the above question is yes.

 

 

 

Any other answer is bullshit because of this or that crap added into the question.  Crate Late racing only exists because of what it has taken and continually takes from Super Late racing. 

 

It was explained to us on here by Fastrack that racers and tracks are their customers.  Would someone please post one good thing which has come or will come from taking money from racers and tracks?   


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:33 AM

To have viewers of the show who do not contribute to racing except with their money at front and back gates there must be a show good enough to get ticket dollars. 

 

Will a weekly 'B' main and feature of Super Lates attract more ticket money then the same with Crate Lates?

 

The answer to the above question is yes.

 

 

 

Any other answer is bullshit because of this or that crap added into the question.  Crate Late racing only exists because of what it has taken and continually takes from Super Late racing. 

 

It was explained to us on here by Fastrack that racers and tracks are their customers.  Would someone please post one good thing which has come or will come from taking money from racers and tracks?   

 

THEY GET RICHER ! Vicki ran Mercer for how long ? Some did not like her, but I believe most did. It was hard work and she was up to the task. Along came crate racing, and then the light bulb went on, I'm sure it is a lot of work. On the other hand, I feel the issue's of running a race track are far greater than running a series.



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 08:33 AM

The mercer comment was nothing more than it may be lost forever. That place didn't require a pig motor, the place required a good set up and a driver. Rush trying for total dominance makes no sense. So, if they would push late models and only late models they mite be bursting at the seams with drivers and cars following them. Some defend every move she makes. The last year the sportsman were open motors at lernerville, few, dam few, left the stands. Look were it is today, it's like the flood gates open. Why is that ? Go ahead defend that move. Why do they want to dominate all divisions of racing ? And don't say it's the love of the sport. There in this to make money. Lots of it.

Few left?  What the hell stock race were you at???  3/4 of the people left before the stocks come out.  What a dumb@$$ comment.  Ive seen as much side-by-side racing in the crates as I have anything lately.  We get you hate the RUSH deal.  You dont need to comment on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. 


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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:24 AM

Nobody hates Crate racing.  I'll pose my question again.

 

Can you name one benefit to racing or milestone obtained by Late crate racing which has not come at the expense of Super Late racing and I'll add in Limited Late racing?  I don't think you can name one thing.  Sure some individual highly skilled racers both lower funded and better funded have success leaving Super Late racing or some other venue for crate Late racing.  And yes the lower funded skilled racers had success where they would not if they stayed and competed against Supers and others with better funded equipment.  But it was all at the expense of Super Late Model racing and other established classes. 

 

I think I understand how a staggered solid axle race cars tires need to be used through out the turns to be efficient.  Yes I understand basic differences and abilities to use their staggered solid axle across classes effects how different classes of cars need to be used.  This fan watches and looks for how great drivers are able to use their equipment through the corners to gain a racing advantage no matter what class of car is on the track.  It's very interesting how great drivers no matter what class their racing will beat their competition in the turns and with great racing skill. 

 

As a fan though spending my money to get into the stands it's just a heck of a lot more >>FUN<< watching Super Lates, Big Blocks and 410's do the same.  And it's my opinion which I tried to explain in my previous post all gains in speck racing no matter what name is put on it by a promoter, comes at the expense of Super Lates, Big Blocks, 410's and other established classes of racing.  The seeming surge in open stocks is not because stock car racers are anti crate or anything else, THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND GO RACE.   There are the same hard working under budget love of racing racers who choose to race Supers, Big Blocks, 410's etc and yes it's JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO!  And they can do it for less money then the entry level cost of speck racing in this area.  All we read about or hear about is the greatness of how someone can now compete in the new class.  But at what expense?  The expense is obvious.  It is at the expense of car count in established classes which is the result of not only the elimination of lower funded skilled racers from the big three classes but the lack of support from fans after a class is rapped of cars.  Over all when a big three class is gone, SO ARE THE Lower budget RACERS WHO RACED THERE and now cannot afford the high, YES HIGH, entry level cost of crate racing.

 

It's really friggin sad to pit next to a young racer who spent most of their life putting a car together to race and then the next night seeing them walking in the pits without their car.  You ask why?  I ask them why and get it explained to me they have their car but they don't have the money to get it to the track.  Put a car together and then you can't race it because the going way of the day because of the SELL from promoters feeding off of tracks and racers, worked.  What's crate racing got us?  It's got us high pit entry tickets, shit for tow money and squat payout.

 

I've also watched enough crate late racing to say it's total bullshit some racers have an engine advantage.  Brad who's add is atop this page and Vicky seem to have done what was and is necessary to maintain engine parity and at least I think engine parity is presented to everyone eyes every race.  I can't nor will argue against what I see so often on the track.  They have given racers engine parity and done their job well on it. 

 

My only problem with doing so is it has come at to much expense from racing, racers and track owners.  As a fan and supporter of racing I can only answer from my experience about the expense to racing and racers.  All my thinking about if crate racing marketed to a specific income level of racer ends up hurting tracks because of demands it puts on them to charge racers is just that only thinking on it.  Each track owner knows if it's really good for their track or not.   

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 10:42 AM

Nobody hates Crate racing.  I'll pose my question again.
 
Can you name one benefit to racing or milestone obtained by Late crate racing which has not come at the expense of Super Late racing and I'll add in Limited Late racing?  I don't think you can name one thing.  Sure some individual highly skilled racers both lower funded and better funded have success leaving Super Late racing or some other venue for crate Late racing.  And yes the lower funded skilled racers had success where they would not if they stayed and competed against Supers and others with better funded equipment.  But it was all at the expense of Super Late Model racing and other established classes. 
 
I think I understand how a staggered solid axle race cars tires need to be used through out the turns to be efficient.  Yes I understand basic differences and abilities to use their staggered solid axle across classes effects how different classes of cars need to be used.  This fan watches and looks for how great drivers are able to use their equipment through the corners to gain a racing advantage no matter what class of car is on the track.  It's very interesting how great drivers no matter what class their racing will beat their competition in the turns and with great racing skill. 
 
As a fan though spending my money to get into the stands it's just a heck of a lot more >>FUN<< watching Super Lates, Big Blocks and 410's do the same.  And it's my opinion which I tried to explain in my previous post all gains in speck racing no matter what name is put on it by a promoter, comes at the expense of Super Lates, Big Blocks, 410's and other established classes of racing.  The seeming surge in open stocks is not because stock car racers are anti crate or anything else, THEY JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND GO RACE.   There are the same hard working under budget love of racing racers who choose to race Supers, Big Blocks, 410's etc and yes it's JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO!  And they can do it for less money then the entry level cost of speck racing in this area.  All we read about or hear about is the greatness of how someone can now compete in the new class.  But at what expense?  The expense is obvious.  It is at the expense of car count in established classes which is the result of not only the elimination of lower funded skilled racers from the big three classes but the lack of support from fans after a class is rapped of cars.  Over all when a big three class is gone, SO ARE THE Lower budget RACERS WHO RACED THERE and now cannot afford the high, YES HIGH, entry level cost of crate racing.
 
It's really friggin sad to pit next to a young racer who spent most of their life putting a car together to race and then the next night seeing them walking in the pits without their car.  You ask why?  I ask them why and get it explained to me they have their car but they don't have the money to get it to the track.  Put a car together and then you can't race it because the going way of the day because of the SELL from promoters feeding off of tracks and racers, worked.  What's crate racing got us?  It's got us high pit entry tickets, shit for tow money and squat payout.
 
I've also watched enough crate late racing to say it's total bullshit some racers have an engine advantage.  Brad who's add is atop this page and Vicky seem to have done what was and is necessary to maintain engine parity and at least I think engine parity is presented to everyone eyes every race.  I can't nor will argue against what I see so often on the track.  They have given racers engine parity and done their job well on it. 
 
My only problem with doing so is it has come at to much expense from racing, racers and track owners.  As a fan and supporter of racing I can only answer from my experience about the expense to racing and racers.  All my thinking about if crate racing marketed to a specific income level of racer ends up hurting tracks because of demands it puts on them to charge racers is just that only thinking on it.  Each track owner knows if it's really good for their track or not.   
 
 
 
 
 

That's not just a crate late issue, it's a regional issue. We have 410's, rush sprints, Super lates, crate lates, limited lates, big blocks, rush mods, emods, economods, promods, pro stocks, street stocks, and the several divisons of mini stocks, drawfs etc. 2 new divisons have been added to that within the last three years, and 358's are gone and rightfully so. There doesn't seem to be a home for 305 sprints now and yhat was a decent class.

Sure some new drivers emerge and old ones unretire for one more run because it intrigues them but on the whole, they're filled with drivers from other classes. Even if it's a new driver it's probably an owner from an existing class shifting divisions like Powell or expanding their stable like suppa. Bruce sold his emod stuff and his son is driving his sprint. Suppa pulled out the crate and took proper from the mini stock ranks. So any new class, not just rush, takes from other divisions. It just so happens that two most recent additions were from rush..... pro mods and sprints and at the expense of what? Rush mods effectively and for the better took the place of 358's and made people move north, run with or move to big blocks, or crates. Rush sprints has taken from various sources and will likely replace 305's and pro mods have taken from open emods and is trying to muscle out economods which is growing.

Then when you look at the shifts in the last year. Eric wilson went from a crate late to an economod, dellinger went from a crate late to a rush mod, schell drove suppas crate then his own slm now back to his own crate, randy hall went from suppas crate late to retiring to unretiring and filling the emod dave scott vacated, wyatt scott started driving his dad's vacated late model, ferry is driving ferringers economod from last year, hess vacated the suppa slm to team with knight and they're both running supers, eck is running suppa's slm.

So there are a lot of lateral shifts but it doesn't really grow the driver or owner pool exponentially. Every new series shuffles driver and owners. The engine thing is intriguing to me because max destroys people in crates here, Pegher included. Then they go to florida and pegher won the week series and max fought for 3rd or 4th all week... wonder what tech is here vs there. That being said blair's know their stuff. Max never has an ill handling car. There is no question however that crate racing and rush habe a certain target audiencd and they market and manage extremely well. Which is the same for penn ohio. Guys are jumping ship from rush to that because they pay and take care of their drivers. It's well run.

It's one thing when a new class or series comes to a region but when one series or entity creates a subdivision within each class whether one is necessary or not is when monopolizing is the goal. They want to get people in the rush family and keep them there. Why run opens when we have everything for you right here, from stocks to sprints. It's like hotel california, check out anytime you like but you can never leave hahahaha.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 11:56 AM

I was about to put a 'like' on your post but instead decided to comment on it.

 

Though it reads factual and accurate to me I will not say I like how things are changing.  Your post in my opinion is a clear and accurate read of the situation.

 

I totally enjoy watching the skill and >racing patience< of both young men.  It's poetry in motion how both in a long race are able to maintain the status quo saving their tires even when adversity charges at them and later in the race clean the clock one by one, of ever tire ringer ahead of them. 

 

I think when the two of them go at it with each other, it's not about who's better or who has better stuff. 

 

It's about who can put themself in a better situation, of being able to use their patience knowing the other will waist effort on waisted attacks or make an always possible mistake.  I think both are skilled enough to constantly present issues to the other hoping to force abuse or setup a for a possible mistake of the other.  And they are both skilled enough to do so when either ahead or behind.  I do enjoy watching them both race crate or supers.  I do think one has a slight racing advantage over the other.  But no matter which it might be I think their both skilled enough to use even reading this to see and correct small issues either may have.  

 

My enjoyment as a fan is in defining correctly and learning to better define and understand the great skills they both use on the track.

 

Thank you for the conversation.

 

 

I feel the need to comment on something someone posted in this thread.  There is no such thing as great side by side racing.  The usual outcome of lap after lap of so called great side by side racing is a third car or the leader will come around and pass both great racers.   :)    



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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:16 PM

Few left?  What the hell stock race were you at???  3/4 of the people left before the stocks come out.  What a dumb@$$ comment.  Ive seen as much side-by-side racing in the crates as I have anything lately.  We get you hate the RUSH deal.  You dont need to comment on it EVERY SINGLE TIME. 

What race were you at? The last year or two of the open and crate sportsman class maybe 1/3 left after the 3rd feature, if it was even that many, and some of them would have left no matter what division was last, because they had to get up for work the next day. 

 

Last year, I watched a guy with a vested interest in the division leave before the feature officially ended because it wasn't worth staying to the end, and he "had a dog in the fight." 


Edited by FanJim24, 16 April 2018 - 04:22 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:30 PM

If this thread proves anything, its that people see what they want to see. If you enjoy crates, good for you, have fun. If youre opposed to crates, dont watch them, dont support the tracks they run at. Go do something you enjoy, quit being so damn miserable all of the time.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:32 PM

Someone asked if there are any drivers who are still in it because of crate racing, and I can name one, and maybe a guy getting a start for the same reason. 

 

I'm pretty sure Billy Kessler would be out of racing again if it weren't for crates. He was out SLMs for what 20 years, maybe more, and they're a different beast, almost literally, since he was in them. He has Matt Wearing, (Bobby's kid) in a second car, or at least he did for the stampede. Man is there history in that event, (Matt driving for Billy). 


Edited by FanJim24, 16 April 2018 - 04:32 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 04:38 PM

If this thread proves anything, its that people see what they want to see. If you enjoy crates, good for you, have fun. If youre opposed to crates, dont watch them, dont support the tracks they run at. Go do something you enjoy, quit being so damn miserable all of the time.

There's a lot of truth there. 

 

My problem is that Rush is muscling out the alternatives. 


Edited by FanJim24, 16 April 2018 - 04:44 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 06:29 PM

That's a blanket statement about Crates Yes crates or crates no .. that's not accurate

 Crates have been an option at tracks and have proven to be equalized in certain conditions with weight ... So when a sanctioning body says " Buy ours or don't come here "  .. That's bullshit ! Its an obvious forced secondary market by the people who make all the money selling Monopoly motors to the upper divisions for the sake of making the money and providing their buyer with a place to sell their used stuff and make a buck freshening them up ( MONPOLY MOTOR) .. not cheaper racing for all .. and so it will not slip by on a racing forum ..

your right .. some people flat out wont buy one and will walk away with a bad taste ..

Latemodel motors are way over most people head and the " Crate" latemodel makes sense  .. but not in stock cars that guys use parts from every other division to go race !

Tech is the equalizer in every track / sanctioning body rules ! If you have Tech .. then Every track and series is fair and balanced

 People believe those bolts take the place of tech .. and so to them its true .. But a scale is just as effective ! The protest rule is the same with fancy wire seal bolts or a guys word that he has a 350 and not a 427!

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true" Cost containment" stringent technical rules surrounded by stringent tech

 You can apply that anywhere to any rules package and have the desired " cost containment"  results



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Posted 17 April 2018 - 07:56 AM

That's not just a crate late issue, it's a regional issue. We have 410's, rush sprints, Super lates, crate lates, limited lates, big blocks, rush mods, emods, economods, promods, pro stocks, street stocks, and the several divisons of mini stocks, drawfs etc. 2 new divisons have been added to that within the last three years, and 358's are gone and rightfully so. There doesn't seem to be a home for 305 sprints now and yhat was a decent class.

Sure some new drivers emerge and old ones unretire for one more run because it intrigues them but on the whole, they're filled with drivers from other classes. Even if it's a new driver it's probably an owner from an existing class shifting divisions like Powell or expanding their stable like suppa. Bruce sold his emod stuff and his son is driving his sprint. Suppa pulled out the crate and took proper from the mini stock ranks. So any new class, not just rush, takes from other divisions. It just so happens that two most recent additions were from rush..... pro mods and sprints and at the expense of what? Rush mods effectively and for the better took the place of 358's and made people move north, run with or move to big blocks, or crates. Rush sprints has taken from various sources and will likely replace 305's and pro mods have taken from open emods and is trying to muscle out economods which is growing.

Then when you look at the shifts in the last year. Eric wilson went from a crate late to an economod, dellinger went from a crate late to a rush mod, schell drove suppas crate then his own slm now back to his own crate, randy hall went from suppas crate late to retiring to unretiring and filling the emod dave scott vacated, wyatt scott started driving his dad's vacated late model, ferry is driving ferringers economod from last year, hess vacated the suppa slm to team with knight and they're both running supers, eck is running suppa's slm.

So there are a lot of lateral shifts but it doesn't really grow the driver or owner pool exponentially. Every new series shuffles driver and owners. The engine thing is intriguing to me because max destroys people in crates here, Pegher included. Then they go to florida and pegher won the week series and max fought for 3rd or 4th all week... wonder what tech is here vs there. That being said blair's know their stuff. Max never has an ill handling car. There is no question however that crate racing and rush habe a certain target audiencd and they market and manage extremely well. Which is the same for penn ohio. Guys are jumping ship from rush to that because they pay and take care of their drivers. It's well run.

It's one thing when a new class or series comes to a region but when one series or entity creates a subdivision within each class whether one is necessary or not is when monopolizing is the goal. They want to get people in the rush family and keep them there. Why run opens when we have everything for you right here, from stocks to sprints. It's like hotel california, check out anytime you like but you can never leave hahahaha.

Id mostly have to agree here.  I HATE that there is basically 3 divisions of the exact same car(E-Mods).  It drives me nuts.  There is no reason for it.  By having 9000 different classes, it thins out the driver pool.  Im not entirely sure I agree with someone moving up from Minis to Crates(Proper, Troyer) as a lateral shift, but so be it.  The 305's killed themselves, by having 3 different sets of rules and having to change everything under the sun to run the other class.  It was never EVER going to work, and it didnt.  Went to Attica for the first time Friday night.  THey have it figured out.  Just wish these tracks around here would do the same, and get the same rules for the same classes instead of tweaking what they see fit.  It does nothing but hurt them.


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