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#21 Hot Dog

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:17 PM

Editorial:
 
 
 
The RUSH Big Modifieds is marketing verses racing.
 
358 could run with the Big Blocks with a weight break.
 
Marketing to help racing could have tried to sell the idea of a 604 being competitive with the 358, maybe without even an additional weight break.  That would have been good for Big Modified racing.
 
But instead knowing they could cut into both low budget Big Block racers and both low budget and top quality 358 racers, they went with the less money 602.
 
The lure of a season championship at less money has now destroyed as planned 358 Big Modifieds in the area.  And because of how it also destroyed any chance of having a number of 358 to run with the Big Blocks at a weight break it's killing Big Block car count in the area.  The future I see because of locking out any possibility of the 602 adding to Big Block racing numbers, will be the loss of Big Block racing in this area.  By choosing the less expensive 602 to gather customers and locking out any possibility of being in the same race with Big Blocks, their numbers will grow but Big Block numbers will decline.
 
The only saving of sprint racing in this area is their choosing to be wingless.  I don't think they realized the wingless craze for a few years was more of a fad for fans then a following.  The marketeers screwed up by not choosing the same 602 to go into a winged sprint.  If they had done that then they would have hit and hurt 305'/360's the same as they hit and hurt 358 Big Modifieds.  Their numbers would be three times what they are today but I'm not sure if they would have hurt 410's as they did Big Blocks.

The 358s werent running much with the big blocks and were already dead as a stand-alone division in the area before Emig even sold Mercer let alone started the sportsman division. They were getting 11-14 cars at Mercer for the same purse they pay the sportsman now. So instead of 11-14 cars in the area with 358s theres somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 sportsman cars. And the big block counts are on the rise compared to where we were a few years ago. The only guy that I can think of that has completely dropped off the big block circuit for the crates is Kristyak. And from talking to him, it was crates or nothing when he made that decision, trying to keep a big block program was becoming too much

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:29 PM

The 358s werent running much with the big blocks and were already dead as a stand-alone division in the area before Emig even sold Mercer let alone started the sportsman division. They were getting 11-14 cars at Mercer for the same purse they pay the sportsman now. So instead of 11-14 cars in the area with 358s theres somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 sportsman cars. And the big block counts are on the rise compared to where we were a few years ago. The only guy that I can think of that has completely dropped off the big block circuit for the crates is Kristyak. And from talking to him, it was crates or nothing when he made that decision, trying to keep a big block program was becoming too much

 

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:36 PM

Big blocks are out numbering the Late Models almost every week at Lernerville.  And about anywhere else except for Stateline, which gets the best Late Model car count in the area!!

 

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 01:38 PM

 
Thank you for your perspective and I'm sure accurate words

You can try to be condescending all you like, but I am accurate and once again youre talking out of your keister because you have these rose colored glasses for the way it was and cant move on. I dont enjoy the crates but Im also capable of acknowledging that they are a necessary evil as motorsports evolve.

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 03:41 PM

Monopolize, I can't believe someone would try to do that. Shame on you, I've said that from day 1. The crate lates seem to be putting on a good show at ppms. I've also said all along there good for the division.

The crate mods are fielding good car counts. All those modifieds that nobody could work together to form a set of rules that the big blocks and small blocks could be equal.

The sportsman deal sucks, the car counts at lernerville keep dropping and the deal w/ppms isn't working. More promotors need to get on the Penn/Ohio bandwagon.

The sprint car deal is a joke, anyone believe Arnie Kent paid for that crate motor. After the costs these guys are not making a dime. All that happened there was the 305 guys got screwed.

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 04:51 PM

Monopolize, I can't believe someone would try to do that. Shame on you, I've said that from day 1. The crate lates seem to be putting on a good show at ppms. I've also said all along there good for the division.

The crate mods are fielding good car counts. All those modifieds that nobody could work together to form a set of rules that the big blocks and small blocks could be equal.

The sportsman deal sucks, the car counts at lernerville keep dropping and the deal w/ppms isn't working. More promotors need to get on the Penn/Ohio bandwagon.

The sprint car deal is a joke, anyone believe Arnie Kent paid for that crate motor. After the costs these guys are not making a dime. All that happened there was the 305 guys got screwed.

Who are the 305s that got screwed? As far as I know the tracks that ran 305s, still do.

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 06:49 PM

Yep, no tracks dropped the 305s for the RUSH cars that I know of!!

 

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 07:42 PM

Well hotdog I'll go with what your saying. I may be wrong. My point of it was, and I did not say this in my previous message. As Walt preaches, to many divisions, did we really need another sprint car class ? Boss came along, a non wing deal that has some really good racing. The kickbacks must be worth 11 to ?? car fields. We have a crate division for every class in the tri-state area.

I always wonder, if the crate monopoly would die off were or what would all the crate racers out there do ? Buy a motor ? remember that IS the only difference.
Sell off and ride into the sunset ? Good luck with that, you'd get 2 cents on the dollar. Ask huck what that pierce platinum is worth today. What are the options if rush folds ? Not many.

I always admired Kenny Schultnbrand, that is not a big dollar operation, but yet he gets out there every week and runs top 10 usually. How many more can you name ? So please quit telling me you can't. A.J. FLICK goes out and busts his ass to get dollars to have that car on the track every week. Sye Lynch seems to be talking to people to get seat time. Whats he on this year 3 or 4 different rides at different tracks.

Bla, Bla, Bla.




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