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[skinnykenny]

Well boys here it is........1st) I'm not trying to offend anyone(especially those of you that I made friends with during my years of stock car racing) but this needs to be said and nobody ever accuses me of being shy or soft spoken...SO..... Every week last year there were stock car guys on this website CRYING because you didn't have any stock races scheduled at Waynesfield. Not ONCE, not TWICE, but CONSTANTLY !!!!! I really felt for you guys. I missed the stock cars the whole year. Alot of you are my friends and I truelly respect all of you because I've been there. I know how it is to try to feed your family, pay your bills, and still scrape together all your extra $$ along with begging sponsors for everything you can get to go racing. I remember spending 5 or 6 nights a week in my garage working on my car just to spend a half hour a week having fun driving my stock car. A big "thank you" goes out to all 14 that showed up at Waynesfield tonight. I tried my best to compete with at least the 6 of you that are still racing this class from back years ago when I ran stocks. I'm glad you are still in this class. But only 14 cars show up after a whole year of "crying" about not being on the schedule? That is pitiful!!! Last year I felt bad for you guys, tonight I feel bad for the race fans that come to see you race and only see 14 cars show up!! PLEASE NOTE.....this is my opinion and I speak on behalf of no one. I am NOT speaking as a track representative on this topic. I speak only as a race fan now. Thanks to those of you that showed up tonight but where are the rest of the "crybabies" that spent the last year crying about Waynesfield not running stock cars? The stocks put on a great show tonight but the fans have to notice when we only get half of the field showing up.

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I sorta feel the same way, but look at lima the counts are down there to. Plus wait until eldora runs stocks on the same night. Wonder what the count will be then? I only hope it gets better. I know some are not running this yr and some are not ready yet. But lets just hope it gets better.

[phlipot52jr]

I'll be there but it will be a couple of months before I see the track! But we WILL be there!!!

[skinnykenny]

I know about your back trouble Weasel. My comment wasn't directed at any one certain person. It was just disappointing to only have 14 cars. Just take care of yourself and do what the Dr say. I've suffered back pain since 1997 and I hope yours won't be lifelong like mine. On my bad days my wife or father won't even get near me because my pain makes everyone misrable. So YOU can ignore my comments about the low car count....until you are back to good health. GOOD LUCK

[fxdl03]

I know about your back trouble Weasel. My comment wasn't directed at any one certain person. It was just disappointing to only have 14 cars.
Just take care of yourself and do what the Dr say. I've suffered back pain since 1997 and I hope yours won't be lifelong like mine. On my bad days my wife or father won't even get near me because my pain makes everyone misrable.
So YOU can ignore my comments about the low car count....until you are back to good health. GOOD LUCK

i would just like to say stock car count is down everywhere,BUT i`m sick and tired of people on here whining and griping yet they don`t have a car,don`t sponsor a car and don`t have any vested interest in a car, all they have is an opinion,and Kenny,things have changed a whole lot since you drove.
Do you people have any idea what kind of money it takes to put one of these things together,let alone maintain one, try doing it on 700.00 sponsor money,doing 95% of the work yourself,95% of the money comes out of you own pocket,working a full time job on top of maintaining,or repairing the car,and to top it all off 7.00 a gallon for fuel,and you ask where are all the cars? i`m not complaining,it`s my choice to race but give people a break,there are alot of people out there that don`t have the money to race,and i for one,if it ever gets too far out of control will not race, i also will take a break,it`s more important for me to make my house payment, i can`t live in a race car.

I for one had every intention of being there saturday night but got tore up friday and couldn`t have the car fixed in time,maybe i`ll make it next time, i`m not trying to make any enemies but if you don`t drive,or wrench on one of these,and all you have is you`re opinion from the spectators view,maybe comments should be kept to yourself.

[AK1]

i would just like to say stock car count is down everywhere,BUT i`m sick and tired of people on here whining and griping yet they don`t have a car,don`t sponsor a car and don`t have any vested interest in a car, all they have is an opinion,and Kenny,things have changed a whole lot since you drove.
Do you people have any idea what kind of money it takes to put one of these things together,let alone maintain one, try doing it on 700.00 sponsor money,doing 95% of the work yourself,95% of the money comes out of you own pocket,working a full time job on top of maintaining,or repairing the car,and to top it all off 7.00 a gallon for fuel,and you ask where are all the cars? i`m not complaining,it`s my choice to race but give people a break,there are alot of people out there that don`t have the money to race,and i for one,if it ever gets too far out of control will not race, i also will take a break,it`s more important for me to make my house payment, i can`t live in a race car.

I for one had every intention of being there saturday night but got tore up friday and couldn`t have the car fixed in time,maybe i`ll make it next time, i`m not trying to make any enemies but if you don`t drive,or wrench on one of these,and all you have is you`re opinion from the spectators view,maybe comments should be kept to yourself.

No offense, but I'd like to put my 2 cents in. I can't speak for Kenny, but as for myself, I do have a good idea what it takes you guys to put a stock car together, and personally, it's way out of hand. It sounds like you and the other guys like you who do it on a shoestring budget should address your concerns to the track owners and promoters. While I don't think a 'bomber' class is the answer, I do think they should reel in stock cars so A. more guys can afford to put one together, and B. and to close the gap between the haves and have nots. When you have to break your neck to repair a race car after busting your tail working 40+ hours all week to feed a family and pay the bills, I can only imagine how hard it is to want to drag the race car out to the track and essentially know that you're racing for 5th or 6th place. Just like the trucks, I'd love to see some more parity in the stock cars, but unfortunately I lack the mechanical knowledge to make a suggestion as to how to level the playing field. But all you guys and gals that have stock cars and tuff trucks know what can be done to make it cheaper and more even.

Let the powers that be know what you need to help them bring in more cars and better racing which equals more spectators.

P.S. those with the 'spectators view' pay the purse, and pay for the tracks to remain open. Their opinion is just as important as anyone's, even if it is just Kenny

Edited by AK1, 25 May 2009 - 10:08 PM.

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What surprises me is that the mod class comtinues to grow. Lima puts on some big money shows for stocks and the count is a little low there to. Its just a class that is down right now. I know you will proably only see barney at WRP when eldora isnt running, because of his wife working at eldora. I think we all have to remember that things are really tuff out there right now for every one. Im surprised the counts arent even lower in all class,s.

[AK1]

What surprises me is that the mod class comtinues to grow. Lima puts on some big money shows for stocks and the count is a little low there to. Its just a class that is down right now. I know you will proably only see barney at WRP when eldora isnt running, because of his wife working at eldora. I think we all have to remember that things are really tuff out there right now for every one. Im surprised the counts arent even lower in all class,s.

I think part of the increase of the modified class comes from the fact that it doesn't cost a whole lot more to build a modified as compared to a stock car, while the payout is greater.

[skinnykenny]

Believe me....I know the stock cars that race now are nothing like the bomber type cars that I enjoyed racing way back when. As the few top dogs kept convincing the track promoters to open up the rules so we could go faster, my family was also getting bigger. The cost of racing was going up and the cost of feeding my family was going up even faster. So I made the hard choice to call it quits. Dean had meetings with all the classes of drivers over the winter. One of the biggest reasons for those meetings was to make sure that all racers understood this "If you want to race at Waynesfield then great cause we would love to have you. But if any class can't get a full field of cars for a 20 car feature, I won't keep them on the schedule. I don't want to mess around with a class that only gets 12 or 13 cars showing up each week." Those are Dean's words not mine!! NOTE: I am NOT trying to say that Dean has said anything to me about dropping the stocks!!! I am only stating my opinion on this topic. UNDERSTAND that I am not speaking on behalf of Waynesfield now, I am speaking as a stock car RACING FAN. We all know that the low count/dropping classes talk was mainly directed at the mini-sprints. But I will definately be disappointed if the stock cars get into that same situation. I know the economy sucks. I lost my job within the last month. But I also heard there were around 30 stocks at Eldora last night. Limaland had more than 14 cars on Friday. There must be some guys that still have some $$ to race on??? I encourage you to go back to the old racestud posts from last year and read all of the crying from the stock guys about not getting any races at Waynesfield. Now they are on the schedule for the year and we get 14 cars showing up during a 3 day holiday weekend with no other local track running against Waynesfield??? I feel that after I read all of the crying for a whole year....now you guys can listen to me cry!!

[RacinMama]

I'm cryin with ya skinnykenny, I miss the compacts.

[skinnykenny]

Yea me too! We know they were racing just for the fun of it. They put all the work into building a car to race while the winner only got like $50 or $75 whatever it was it couldn't have covered their pitpass and gas money. But the same guy won almost every week. I guess thats just the way all race classes work.

[stif racing]

I had the feeling after starting to read the posts on this topic that the mini sprints would come in and they did. i think people need to realize that the stocks were plan and simply cut out last year so the thought of add them year and they'll be back I think it's going to take more than that build the class. There are some classes that have strong turnouts but if you have watched for the most part they have dropped in numbers from the previous few years. You don't see the non-wing guys from indiana why because they aren't going to run for $700, that payout has gone from $1200 2 years ago to $1000 last year and now to $700. The price of fuel is going back up, just saw $2.65 today and that's not helping. We put the show together in Piqua for the past 6 years and this year I talked to alot of those that participated about how the economy is going to effect them. At that time fuel was down and many said they were cutting back and some said if there are chances of rain they weren't going to try to go with the chance of a rain out and money spent for nothing. Another thing that's effecting some people that attending the meetings the first of the year is they were told each night one class will be paid a bonus and it will be announced what class that will be at the drivers meeting and from what I have heard from those that I talked to that have been there so far this year, not the first big payout has been added. Attitude towards the drivers and crews means alot and if you think about what is the attitude at the drivers meeting by the track staff? If you treat those that support you the way you expect them to treat you then they'll be back, but yelling before things even get started ain't the answer. The first night the mini sprints raced they had a first time winner, I hear from spectators on the front stretch that when that driver pulled in to have Kenny take his picture a gentleman on a Mule pulled up and told him to get the car to the scales now and they could hear all of this loud and clear. What was the big deal to scale we asked to scale our car that night before the heat races to be sure we made weight and they told us they weren't working and that the cars would be rolled across them so it looks good. All in all I think there are alot of different things that are causing the car counts to drop and I just hope they don't take it out on one or two classes and say that's it your done. Thius Sat. I don't see a few classes with big turnouts do to the time of year like graduations and calls were made to Dean about this because it will effect car counts in classes like the mini sprints. Yes everything that I posted here was discussed with Dean so I have spoken to him but that's all I can do, the staff controls alot of their destiny.

[eatin dirt]

I had the feeling after starting to read the posts on this topic that the mini sprints would come in and they did. i think people need to realize that the stocks were plan and simply cut out last year so the thought of add them year and they'll be back I think it's going to take more than that build the class. There are some classes that have strong turnouts but if you have watched for the most part they have dropped in numbers from the previous few years. You don't see the non-wing guys from indiana why because they aren't going to run for $700, that payout has gone from $1200 2 years ago to $1000 last year and now to $700. The price of fuel is going back up, just saw $2.65 today and that's not helping. We put the show together in Piqua for the past 6 years and this year I talked to alot of those that participated about how the economy is going to effect them. At that time fuel was down and many said they were cutting back and some said if there are chances of rain they weren't going to try to go with the chance of a rain out and money spent for nothing. Another thing that's effecting some people that attending the meetings the first of the year is they were told each night one class will be paid a bonus and it will be announced what class that will be at the drivers meeting and from what I have heard from those that I talked to that have been there so far this year, not the first big payout has been added. Attitude towards the drivers and crews means alot and if you think about what is the attitude at the drivers meeting by the track staff? If you treat those that support you the way you expect them to treat you then they'll be back, but yelling before things even get started ain't the answer. The first night the mini sprints raced they had a first time winner, I hear from spectators on the front stretch that when that driver pulled in to have Kenny take his picture a gentleman on a Mule pulled up and told him to get the car to the scales now and they could hear all of this loud and clear. What was the big deal to scale we asked to scale our car that night before the heat races to be sure we made weight and they told us they weren't working and that the cars would be rolled across them so it looks good. All in all I think there are alot of different things that are causing the car counts to drop and I just hope they don't take it out on one or two classes and say that's it your done. Thius Sat. I don't see a few classes with big turnouts do to the time of year like graduations and calls were made to Dean about this because it will effect car counts in classes like the mini sprints. Yes everything that I posted here was discussed with Dean so I have spoken to him but that's all I can do, the staff controls alot of their destiny.

you better be careful the holy grail on this message board will be after you next for speaking on anything that goes against what they beleive, be prepared to get booted off stif