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[DR.COOL]

so i just looked at schedule for stock cars and guess what there is none. i looked at schedule at 1 oclock and there was. now at 830 there is nothing but there is all kinds of compacts races on the schedule .so whats the deal dean?????????????????????????????

[ramrodd00]

Man, that sucks. sounds like the guys who wanted to hurt waynesfield by not coming out hurt themselves by losing a place to race. i bet if they wouldve had a car count theyd still be on the schedule. at least i know the trucks aint goin anywhere. watching them guys and gal battle last night was somethin. almost as good as the sprint race.

[DR.COOL]

Man, that sucks. sounds like the guys who wanted to hurt waynesfield by not coming out hurt themselves by losing a place to race. i bet if they wouldve had a car count theyd still be on the schedule. at least i know the trucks aint goin anywhere. watching them guys and gal battle last night was somethin. almost as good as the sprint race.

yeah well weve never missed a race there and the car count didnt dye until previous and current promoters started cutting races and blowing smoke up peoples butts and dean is the best at that so hope all the other classes have good rest of the season and dont miss a race cause youll be next. and i heard this deann wants stock cars to run hoosier then he might bring them back but he will only do that if all tracks do it but the other tracks have the same car count and dont cut races and dont have any problem with stocks so this shows me that maybe its dean and not the cars hope the owner of the track can help the stocks out or not.

[ramrodd00]

yeah well weve never missed a race there and the car count didnt dye until previous and current promoters started cutting races and blowing smoke up peoples butts and dean is the best at that so hope all the other classes have good rest of the season and dont miss a race cause youll be next. and i heard this deann wants stock cars to run hoosier then he might bring them back but he will only do that if all tracks do it but the other tracks have the same car count and dont cut races and dont have any problem with stocks so this shows me that maybe its dean and not the cars hope the owner of the track can help the stocks out or not.

That's funny cause I heard dean tell a couple of guys weeks ago in the stock car class to let the other guys know that if they don't start getting more cars, he's gonna have to start cutting shows. doesnt sound like blowing smoke to me. sounds like he pretty much kept his word.i still dont like the fact that the stox are gone but maybe its time for a reform like its beingtalked about on the limaland section or maybe some of the stock car guys can go to truks or mods

[DR.COOL]

That's funny cause I heard dean tell a couple of guys weeks ago in the stock car class to let the other guys know that if they don't start getting more cars, he's gonna have to start cutting shows. doesnt sound like blowing smoke to me. sounds like he pretty much kept his word.i still dont like the fact that the stox are gone but maybe its time for a reform like its beingtalked about on the limaland section or maybe some of the stock car guys can go to truks or mods

will just have to see waynesfield without stocks that will hurt the track but thats his choice and as far as going mods i hope alot of stocks do i just think its crap but its deans show for now hopefully not for long

[dirt queen]

yeah well weve never missed a race there and the car count didnt dye until previous and current promoters started cutting races and blowing smoke up peoples butts and dean is the best at that so hope all the other classes have good rest of the season and dont miss a race cause youll be next. and i heard this deann wants stock cars to run hoosier then he might bring them back but he will only do that if all tracks do it but the other tracks have the same car count and dont cut races and dont have any problem with stocks so this shows me that maybe its dean and not the cars hope the owner of the track can help the stocks out or not.

Owner of track did not even run stocks last year. Have you looked in the stands when your at Waynesfield not enough to pay everyone. Its not good business to lose money every week you need to make a change. Everyone talking Economy Can only race once a week. Have to make a choice concert kids to fair go to races Which track should I race and I am sure there are alot of other choices people are making. Well I think Waynesfield has decided to make some choices of there own. Good for them. You have to do what you need to do to survive right now in this time.

[OGRE]

It's a tough decision but dirt queen is right we need to make decisions that aren't always favorable but decisions that will help to keep us from lossing more money in this economy. Dr Cool, there are only three tracks in this western Ohio area that run this breed of stocks (WRP, LMP and the Big E). The counts at LMP have been the same as ours at WRP. Eldora normally has decent counts but most of the cars that run there don't run anywhere else due to travel costs. Another thing.......Dean never once said anything about putting Hoosiers on the stocks. Bottom line is we have to make sound business decisions and sometimes it decisions that aren't favorable but must be made. That's wonderful that you supported the track eveytime we ran stocks but unfortunatly others didn't help in the cause for whatever reason. We warned the minis that we needed to step up the carcount and they responded well to that earlier in the season. Wheterh it be stocks, mini's, trucks, mods, sprints or late models......we just want a nice well represented class of cars that not only put on a good show but draw people with them. I know everyone is going to say that we had three people with us or we had my whole family in the stands, and that may be true but as I walked thru the pits this weekend I seen many stocks that were alone and didn't have anyone with them. I'm proud of the fact that Dean is willing to change things up when it isn't working and try new things. Right now he's trying to find the right mix for this area. Give him time and he'll have it adjusted to where it works great. WRP will survive just fine, we have some more exciting things that may pop up this season to give back to the fans.......stay tuned.

[paintman60]

That's funny cause I heard dean tell a couple of guys weeks ago in the stock car class to let the other guys know that if they don't start getting more cars, he's gonna have to start cutting shows. doesnt sound like blowing smoke to me. sounds like he pretty much kept his word.i still dont like the fact that the stox are gone but maybe its time for a reform like its beingtalked about on the limaland section or maybe some of the stock car guys can go to truks or mods

i hate to see the stocks cut because i think you need that class it is a good place to learn how to drive big car and motor and put on a GREAT show but i sat and watched the stocks rut the crap out of the field 2 weeks ago . i think ,and this is my opinion so im sure im wrong ,that they need to put the stocks on hoosiers cause they would not rut like a dot tire . the stocks have racecar suspension in rear to hook them up so use racecar tires cause what i saw was them using the dot tire like a rudder heck some of them were makin a dead furrow( thats farmer talk). i like the stocks and want them there but i think low car counts and tearing up the track are the hurdles to be overcome to get them there on a regular basis. it sure would be nice to see if hoosiers would make a difference on the rutting issue .

[stif racing]

It surprises me that they did this after the race on Wed. The race was on a weekday running a show during Ohio Sprtintweek and they got done at what time. Most of you guys have jobs to be at the next morning. The fact that it was a weeknight and Ohio Sprintweek race might have had an affect on the car count also. If he wanted to cut them out I would have thoought he would have been better off to wait until they had at least one more Sat. race and see how the car count was. JMO

[master of all]

they knew it was happin way before speedweek, wmp gave them concerns and it never improved, so u cant blame the track.

[DR.COOL]

so what happens with point money and pre paid parking money do the stockers get point money or parking money back just wondering dean. i mean season is over for the stocks . they paid for the parking and races they ran.

[skinnykenny]

That is a very good question about the paid for pit parking.^^ I doubt there will be much to discuss as far as points. Wednesday was a "no points race" as I understand it. How many stock points shows did we have? 3 maybe? I know Limaland doesn't pay points to trucks or mini-sprints because they only ran 1 show a year.

[eldorahighsideman]

There is Dean being Dean again. My question is what about the individuals that payed for there spots, what about the ones that sponsored the track that have stock cars. YES DEAN SOME OF US RACE FANS DO READ ADVERTISMENT BOARDS. I also know that Dean was selling reserved pit spots multiple times on the same spot. HMMMMMM that was helping the money issue. Heck I heard he even lowered the pay on the stock cars right before the feature, no one complained. Just another track and promoter that cant keep to there word. Getting very common anymore. Then again when you treat them like $#%E@! and expect them to just do everything you want, think again.

[DR.COOL]

There is Dean being Dean again. My question is what about the individuals that payed for there spots, what about the ones that sponsored the track that have stock cars. YES DEAN SOME OF US RACE FANS DO READ ADVERTISMENT BOARDS. I also know that Dean was selling reserved pit spots multiple times on the same spot. HMMMMMM that was helping the money issue. Heck I heard he even lowered the pay on the stock cars right before the feature, no one complained.
Just another track and promoter that cant keep to there word. Getting very common anymore. Then again when you treat them like $#%E@! and expect them to just do everything you want, think again.

exactly right glad someone else thinks like me as far as races ran for points shouldnt matter he cancelled races he still had 15 to 18 cars a race .he just wants money cause with compacts and trucks thats free money cause there is no to little payout and sure they want to race im glad they can but there just giving there money to deans pocket . and pit parking money should be returned for the rest of the season. im not mad at the owners or the people that work there just dean MILLSTREAM ALL OVER AGAIN

[OGRE]

You guys are way too funny. We just laugh at people that hide behind their screen name and bash Dean and the track.....that takes a real man! Trust me when I say this....Dean is a racer and Dean will do whatever it takes to make a good show for the fans. I have NEVER seen him screw anyone.......NEVER. As a matter of fact this past Wednesday we had to park some big rigs in reserved spots and Dean gave those reserved pit stall owners a free pit pass for the inconvenience. As for the stock pit stall I'm sure Dean will work that out with them but there were very few stocker pit stall that were reserved in the first place. And when you talk about Dean wanting to put money in his pocket.......Duh. Do you think a businesman enters a business adventure to lose money? That is what he's trying to do right now is find a mix that will make money and give the fans enjoyment. Would you enter into a business and just keep losing money to make a select few people happy......if you would then you've probably been someone that has lost a bunch of maney in your life!! It's a business and a business decision was made. We don't dislike stocks, we just had to do what was right for us at the time.

[witness_23]

ogre im surprised you have never seen dean screw someone i watched him screw 18 stock guys wed night. keep pushing them back and then say hey if you sit in the pits for 8 hours i think im just gonna have to eventually let you run the race. then as soon as the race is over make the decision that they are done for the season. there were just as many trucks there on wed night why didnt he cut into their races this season??????????? cuz he dont have to pay them as much. and how about putting the compacts on there what happens to them if only 15 show up i bet he dont cut them. but the 360's have a 15 car count and they are gone then the stocks have a 18 car count on a weekday race and they get cut. but the trucks have 18 and they are still there for the rest of the season. makes no sense none at all. those stock car guys got treated like crap wed night and stuck around raced went home slept for 4 hours got up and went to work only to find out that dean drops the rest of the season. wow congrats dean eventually at this rate you wont have to pay anyone cuz no one is gonna show up.

[skinnykenny]

I really doubt that the stocks being taken off the schedule had anything to do with Wednesdays show. It sure looked like the stock boys made the choice to drop WAynesfield from their schedule at the previous race. You know what I am talking about. 12 or 13 cars pulling onto the track trying to look like a feature made everyone look pathetic. Does anyone understand that a track starts making $$ from the racers on the cars that do not get payed for the 1st 10 position? The guys that run from like 12th thru 40th become profit for a track because they spend more $$ in admission than they get back. If only a few cars show up, the track pays out the highest pay and doesn't get any $$ back from the back positions. Where are all the guys who cryed about not being on the schedule last year?? They didn't race this year when they had the chance!!

[AK1]

ogre im surprised you have never seen dean screw someone i watched him screw 18 stock guys wed night. keep pushing them back and then say hey if you sit in the pits for 8 hours i think im just gonna have to eventually let you run the race. then as soon as the race is over make the decision that they are done for the season. there were just as many trucks there on wed night why didnt he cut into their races this season??????????? cuz he dont have to pay them as much. and how about putting the compacts on there what happens to them if only 15 show up i bet he dont cut them. but the 360's have a 15 car count and they are gone then the stocks have a 18 car count on a weekday race and they get cut. but the trucks have 18 and they are still there for the rest of the season. makes no sense none at all. those stock car guys got treated like crap wed night and stuck around raced went home slept for 4 hours got up and went to work only to find out that dean drops the rest of the season. wow congrats dean eventually at this rate you wont have to pay anyone cuz no one is gonna show up.

Trucks had 18 for the weekday race but always have 20+ for regular shows. The stock cars have been consistently under 18 every week. The last time we ran stocks, we had 14 cars. I'm sorry, but as a fan, I'd feel ripped off by the track if they continued to run a class that didn't bring a full field of cars.

As far as screwing the stock cars, you better get your story straight. We moved their hot laps back because the track was way too soft, and then we only moved their heats back one race. The heats were originally scheduled for before the All Star A main, and we moved them until after that A main. If you don't believe that, please come see me and I will show you the schedule of events that was handed to myself, as well as the All Star Announcer and the BAS radio crew at the beginning of the night.

The only one screwing stock cars at Waynesfield are the guys who didn't bring their cars out for whatever reason and run with the rest of the guys. I for one hate the fact that they are off the schedule, but I understand 100% why.

[AK1]

Where are all the guys who cryed about not being on the schedule last year?? They didn't race this year when they had the chance!!

Amen Kenny.

[RacinMama]

You guys are way too funny. We just laugh at people that hide behind their screen name and bash Dean and the track.....

Really? Because the 5s got his tail chewed because people were on here saying stuff about the track and it wasn't him but those who used his pic. So if I were people I would hide my identity before your fav driver or family member pays for what you say. Too late for us but that's ok, that's why the truck is for sale. I say what I think and if you don't like it ignore it. Everyone has their own opinion or this world would be a boring place to live if everyone had the exact same thoughts. Everyone on this board has money and/or time invested at this track and obviously have a passion for racing or they wouldn't care enough to even be on here.







JMO of course.