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Dean said if they would of ran a few more laps they might of passed some one.

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Edited by skip, 04 July 2010 - 03:06 AM.

[shady_bucks]

are they still letting jack and the 2 seater start the feature????? like they did at the all star race?

[skinnykenny]

Yep.....this time Dean Miracle was along for the ride during the feature!!

[J&T Photos]

Nice pics Skip.. I didn't know that was Dean at first.. Here is a pic of him getting ready to come to the green..  Dean_Miracle.jpg   488.75KB   61 downloads

[master of all]

are they still letting jack and the 2 seater start the feature????? like they did at the all star race?

I think its a great thing to have that 2 seater there.... i would hop in the back of it and beg jack to pass everyone he can with me in it lol hell i would point and try and tell jack when and where to pass them in the a main.. and then when we caught westfall i would give him the jack hewitt wave with my middle finger as we went around him on the highside lmao

[shady_bucks]

So has anyone bothered to ask the drivers exactly how they feel about this 2 seater being on the track during the feature???? If i was a non wing sprint car driver and was literally putting my life on the line every time i strapped in I would be pissed if someone was doing this. JMO I think this is the dumbest thing any promoter could ever do. Especially when the All Stars are there and Hewitt has to drive through a wreck. Letting people go for a ride of a lifetime on the track while its just the 2 seater out there is awesome, but to actually start them at the tail end of the feature is just plain stupid. And Master of All you would prolly pee yourself if you were strapped into a sprint car lol just messin with ya man

[skinnykenny]

Here is a closer pic of Jack & Dean.

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[Dr. Speedy]

I hope you noticed shady, they pulled off in the infield before the race got faster and more dangerous, Jack isn't an idiot,and wouldn't put anyone in eminent danger. I think it was about 5 laps when he pulled in.(don't quote me on that). I say if you can afford it, by all means do it. Life is short, grab a little gusto and Dew it With Hewtt! (no pooping in the car LOL)

[shady_bucks]

I just think its very disrespectful to the guys who are actually putting their life on the line. And it is very stupid if you wanna experience a couple laps thats cool. but those laps should not be going on when the feature is on the track. If you wanna experience the thrill of being in a sprint car A main then get a sprint car and make the feature. Everyone will think this is a great idea until someone gets hurt while riding as a passenger in a sprint car A main.

[ramrodd00]

I just think its very disrespectful to the guys who are actually putting their life on the line. And it is very stupid if you wanna experience a couple laps thats cool. but those laps should not be going on when the feature is on the track. If you wanna experience the thrill of being in a sprint car A main then get a sprint car and make the feature. Everyone will think this is a great idea until someone gets hurt while riding as a passenger in a sprint car A main.

Disrespectful? How is it disrespectful? Jack doesn't get in the way of the race, doesn't pass any cars even when the opportunity presents itself.
The odds of you getting hurt in the back seat of Jack's 2 seater are no worse than you getting hurt falling off your high horse. Get over it

[AK1]

I forgot that all you waynesfield groupies think Dean is golden and the track has no flaws at all. How is it disrespectful? Lets see creating a circus act and a mockery of the A main while the competitors are trying to stay focused and concentrate on throwing their own sprint cars into the corners. What happens when Jack slips up and loses control? (I know Jack Hewitt is one of the greatest sprint car drivers to ever live, but not being disrespectful to him or anything but there is a reason he hung it up early and its definitely not because he was ready to) What happens when something on the 2 seater breaks and someone hits him cuz he is stopped in the middle of the track (and it could very well happen i have seen the reaction time of the WRP flag man, although it could just be this area because the flag man at limaland has some pretty slow reaction time also) But what then? Not only will you have some "Lucky" fan injured laying there in a sprint car but you will also have one very p***** off sprint car driver.

JMO but get your head out of Deans *** and think about it for a minute.

shady,

I personally have no idea who you are, but let me make something very clear to you. Jack Hewitt is in no way making a mockery of any A Main he puts his 2 seater into. He is giving a fan the opportunity to live out a dream. Jack does not start in front of the field. He starts from the rear. He does not go driving wildly into the turn trying to pass the field, although he could definitely make some passes as his 2 seater is a full blown ready to race machine. If you ever have any concerns about the safety of one of Jack's riders, why don't you step into the pit area and tell Jack face to face? Just a suggestion....

As far as our flaggers go, Jeremy and Bridget are among the best in the business at what they do. Insulting them because you have a problem with Waynesfield is shallow and baseless. If you ever have any genuine concerns about what we're doing at WRP, feel free to use the contact information on the website and voice your concerns.

[shady_bucks]

AK1 you do know who i am as i have actually talked to you before at the race track, i know your busy there and someone talking to you for the first time might not be high on your remembering list which is cool i respect you for everything you do. But if you cant see the problem in this then I really think you need to take a step back and reexamine this one. As for you ramrodd i have no clue who you are but i wrote a bunch for you to think about and all you respond is "Whats there to think about? You being scared?" For one i have nothing to be scared of, which that comment makes absolutely no sense. And for 2 can you just not comprehend what im saying. I know racing is about having a good time and relaxing, drinking a little beer and generally having a great time. But what gives WRP the right to throw someone into the back of a 2 seater and let them start a feature???? Its making a mockery of the sport. Drivers are there to race and put on a great show for the crowd, not to be part of a circus act. As for the comment i made about the flagMAN at WRP, I will stand by it the guy that flags there is not very good at all, when Devin Dobbie went off the backstretch earlier this year i watched as the mini sprints made 3 more laps before he threw the yellow flag, THREE more laps, thats horrible. The girl that flags there i have never seen her have a problem while flagging a race, but the guy is just not good at flagging. Im not saying the guy is a complete failure in life and will never do anything right, nor am i saying he should be fired but maybe let him work the infield for a couple seasons and let him get his eyesight better and maybe he will turn into a great flagman. Right now though he is not very good

[skip]

In Jeremys defence did you ever think that there are other people around the track with radios that could of told him. Maybe he was looking in a different direction. Maybe he saw him go off but didnt see the flip. His eyes were proably on the racing that was going on. One mistake, who everys fault it was and its time to nail him to the cross. Thats why a lot a people dont like to post on here because its a joke about all the bitching. Most of the comments are people who dont even support WRP. Only on racestud do we hear all the bitching, and hardly any good things that happen. Any more the bad out numbers the good deeds.

[AK1]

AK1 you do know who i am as i have actually talked to you before at the race track, i know your busy there and someone talking to you for the first time might not be high on your remembering list which is cool i respect you for everything you do. But if you cant see the problem in this then I really think you need to take a step back and reexamine this one.

As for you ramrodd i have no clue who you are but i wrote a bunch for you to think about and all you respond is "Whats there to think about? You being scared?" For one i have nothing to be scared of, which that comment makes absolutely no sense. And for 2 can you just not comprehend what im saying. I know racing is about having a good time and relaxing, drinking a little beer and generally having a great time. But what gives WRP the right to throw someone into the back of a 2 seater and let them start a feature???? Its making a mockery of the sport. Drivers are there to race and put on a great show for the crowd, not to be part of a circus act.

As for the comment i made about the flagMAN at WRP, I will stand by it the guy that flags there is not very good at all, when Devin Dobbie went off the backstretch earlier this year i watched as the mini sprints made 3 more laps before he threw the yellow flag, THREE more laps, thats horrible. The girl that flags there i have never seen her have a problem while flagging a race, but the guy is just not good at flagging. Im not saying the guy is a complete failure in life and will never do anything right, nor am i saying he should be fired but maybe let him work the infield for a couple seasons and let him get his eyesight better and maybe he will turn into a great flagman. Right now though he is not very good

I'm sorry I can't say I remember you. My memory of names and faces sucks. Just ask my wife. I forget who she is all the time. With that said...

I'm sorry you feel the way you do. If you should happen to have the winning ticket at the Hewitt Classic, come on up to the tower and I will gladly give you the mic while I go out and take "the ride of a lifetime" with one of the greatest racers of all time. No circus act. Just Jack trying to give something back to his fans. I personally think it's a tremendous idea, and I'm proud to be able to witness it.

If Jack was starting from the pole, or the middle of the pack, definitely a concern. But starting from the tail and running 1 lap, the passenger is in no more danger than anyone else at the race track.

Again, if it's that big of an issue to you, please go to the pits and voice your concerns with Jack. If you think the other drivers have an issue with it, take them with you. I have a feeling you'll be awful lonely when you get to Jack's trailer.

I stand by my statement that Jeremy is one of the best flagmen in our area. You don't have to like it. I know that the majority of fans and drivers like him too. Opinions vary, and I understand that. Hell I got told how bad of an announcer I am last week. Gotta take the good with the bad. Keep bashin Jeremy, maybe it'll bring people in to see just how bad he is.
I won't swear to it, because I pile too much crap in my memory to have it clearly, but I sincerely don't think we ran 3 laps after Devon went over the hill. I would love to see the video of it, because I missed it entirely. It was after the caution was thrown that I realized who was missing from the track. I would swear we ran maybe 1 lap, but again I could be mistaken.

At any rate, your concern has been duly noted. I sincerely hope to see you back at the 'field soon. Have a good week.

[shady_bucks]

Im not going to stop going to WRP and i wasnt trying to get everyone on here all riled up i was just stating my opinion on the matter. As for the flagman like i said before maybe he will be better if he works in the infield for a couple seasons to get his sight better, but i have seen him do it a couple times where theres someone spun in turns 1 and 2 or someone stopped on the track somewhere and he doesnt throw the yellow he lets them race another lap before he does. The Devin Dobbie wreck just concerned me greatly as he completely missed it and then let the race go on for 3 more laps. The only way i know that is my buddy beside me was counting the laps while i was trying to see where Dobbie landed.

[Need for Speed]

Im not going to stop going to WRP and i wasnt trying to get everyone on here all riled up i was just stating my opinion on the matter.

As for the flagman like i said before maybe he will be better if he works in the infield for a couple seasons to get his sight better, but i have seen him do it a couple times where theres someone spun in turns 1 and 2 or someone stopped on the track somewhere and he doesnt throw the yellow he lets them race another lap before he does. The Devin Dobbie wreck just concerned me greatly as he completely missed it and then let the race go on for 3 more laps. The only way i know that is my buddy beside me was counting the laps while i was trying to see where Dobbie landed.

In my 38+ years of going to the races, (with 20 of those having my own butt in the seat) I've seen a lot of different folks in the flagstand.....and I would love to see 'shady bucks' in WRP's flagstand sometime.

Just so I could 'check his sight'.

It ain't as easy as it looks from the stands.

BTW, It's Dobie....not Dobbie

Edited by Need for Speed, 06 July 2010 - 10:40 PM.

[shady_bucks]

I would love to be in WRP flagstand sometime and i guarantee my sight would beat out urs or the guy they got now. Its not like its that hard to throw a yellow when i car goes flipping off the backstretch or if a car comes to a stop on the track. The last one is also a problem with WRP "great flagman" Like i said before the female that WRP has seems to be great at her job and on top of her game, its just the guy flagman seems pretty slow to throw a yellow. I mean seriously 3 laps after someone flips off the track???? Thats just pathetic

[double checkered]

Mr Bucks, Your personal attacks at me can stop. I'll be the first to admit I made a mistake the night when Devon left the track. He went off in 2. I was looking in 4 at the time. I never claimed to be perfect. As for your accusation of me not throwing the caution in a timely maner is untrue. I understand you don't like me, as a flagman, since I don't believe we have met. I accept your opinion. But to claim you are better then anyone at anything with no proof to back it up is just pointless. You are more then welcome to ask Dean for the opportunity to flag. I will be happy to let you use my flags to do so. But the point of view changes as you get closer to the track and I GUARANTEE you too will miss something. Nobody is that good. I've attended plenty of races to see plenty of officials make their share of mistakes. I have to live with mine and learn from them. Please next time you have a personal issue with me, bring it to me. I take my job very seriously and accept critisim both good and bad. Thanks again for coming to Waynesfield. Jeremy Vogel

Edited by double checkered, 07 July 2010 - 05:07 PM.

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How many times as a fan have you been watching some thing and miss a wreck or spin that has happened at the other end of the track. I think every fan has said what happened i was looking the other way. This is proably the first time it has happened and all hell breaks loose from one guy. If any one should be mad is Dobbie. I dont believe shady_bucks is Dobbie by no way.

[pcpower81]

hey skip, i think need for speed was just showing the correct spelling of our last (dobie) name and NOT trying to say that its me complaining about the flagging situation.... while i was extremely upset in the heat of the moment that the race stayed green and then yellow for so long that i was able to run to the car from the pit stands and got there just a few steps behind the safety workers i never once blamed the flagging of jeremy, i think he does a good job. i was setting much higher than he was and still dint see that the car flipped until i ran back there. the car disapeared so quickly that it would have been very easy to miss. I have done a little flagging with gokarts and even that isnt easy.. i personally woulnt get in the stand at WRP it just seems really close to the track for what its constructed of. i hate to see everyone upset and talking bad about the people that try to put a good show on for the fans and give everyone a place to race, WRP is a great track and hopefully can figure out a way to put fans in the stands