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[dirt track maniac]

Anybody have any info on any changes to the stocks next year? Heard rumors and would like some actual info

[hoosier race fan]

Not sure what the rumors have been, and this is just my opinion, but maybe let them run the Hoosier E-mod tires and leave everything else alone.

[dirt track maniac]

inspecting the class would be a good place to begin. a few cars wouldn't be legal but those guys prolly have the brake pedal removed anyways the way some drive. gettin the class back to the rule book would do wonders I bet

[Dr. Speedy]

Oh come on folks we all know they are perfectly legal.LOL! Although I don't think a "pure" stock would hold up very long at the Big E. A standard motor no headers wouln't handle the riggors and rpms. I say let the stock cars run a 4bbl, and a Hoosier spec on all for corners. No exceptions. Fuel choice could be an option. Whadaya think?

[dirt track maniac]

Hoosiers yes four barrel no. Hoosiers make cars handle better and lets face it..thats always a good thing. Four barrel is another expense ($500-1000) added to a class that should be looking at cutting costs, not creating them. Hoosiers can be picked up cheap and I would allow street tires for the first year to allow teams to make the transistion.

[racer71]

Hoosiers yes four barrel no. Hoosiers make cars handle better and lets face it..thats always a good thing. Four barrel is another expense ($500-1000) added to a class that should be looking at cutting costs, not creating them. Hoosiers can be picked up cheap and I would allow street tires for the first year to allow teams to make the transistion.

Lets face the facts if they let hoosier tires in nobody is going to run used tires on the rear of their car if they want to win. everybody thinks picking up used tires saves the drivers money in reality the fast guys r going to buy new tires and just get faster. a new hoosier is $110-$115 and a street tire is roughly $75. how does going to a hoosier save anyone money? hoosiers wear out faster causing u to buy more of them. the guys who run up front will buy new tires and continue to run up front. if running a used hoosier vs running a new one didnt make a difference the mod guys wouldnt be selling them. if they want to police the class and cut cost start inspecting them everyweek like Limaland does

[Dr. Speedy]

As usual, you're right Barney. The thing is trying to keep everybody on the same page. They hardly ever used to check stock cars at Eldora unless someone was hollering about it. But nobody wants to rat them out because they are illegal too. It's in no way cheap to race any kind of a performance type vehicle. Tires, racing gas, shocks springs, etc. Plus repairs at the track and at home during the week. Fuel to get there. You have to love the sport, because it sure isn't gonna make you a decent living in the support classes. You would have to race 4 nights a week and win all the features. Or have REEEEAAAALLLYYY great sponsors.

[dirt track maniac]

what about a spec carb? 500 cfm holley. Lima and eldora get together with Holley Or willys and work out a good deal. winner has to trade his carb in for a different one after feature is over every week. its an extra expense yes but this would make big motors pointless and save racers money. and for the avg racer he is prolly already running these anyways

[graciedog]

Does anyone really think they will change anything in the stock class???? Why should they change anything? The class is filling out a feature every week. I am sure they do not want the headache of new rules and enforcing them. Heck they do not even inspect for the rules they have now. There could be cars running an illegal tranny or aluminum heads, and without someone laying a magnet to them who would know. Has anyone had the wheel base measured this year? The true inspection of the stock class would help but the most needed is the enforcement of the rules already set Over all I do not see where the tire switch from DOT to Hoosier would make a bit of difference except be more cost to the class. I agree that any driver that is able to buy new hoosiers will be doing that and again the guys with out the money will run behind them. What are they looking for from this class that they are not already getting? It looks pretty competive to me, look at the points. I don't think you can get them much closer.

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As usual, you're right Barney. The thing is trying to keep everybody on the same page. They hardly ever used to check stock cars at Eldora unless someone was hollering about it. But nobody wants to rat them out because they are illegal too. It's in no way cheap to race any kind of a performance type vehicle. Tires, racing gas, shocks springs, etc. Plus repairs at the track and at home during the week. Fuel to get there. You have to love the sport, because it sure isn't gonna make you a decent living in the support classes. You would have to race 4 nights a week and win all the features. Or have REEEEAAAALLLYYY great sponsors.

Thats not Barney Wilford B. Letting you know.

[Dr. Speedy]

I know, but who ist it?

Edited by Dr. Speedy, 31 August 2010 - 10:16 AM.

[motorsports12]

any more said about the stock car rules

[phlipot52jr]

I was told they werent going to change anything.

[dirt track maniac]

I hope they keep the rules in place but actually INSPECT cars next year

[motorsports12]

as far as the tires i think if they want to let them run hoosiers let them but dont make it a requirement - a lot of guys already have the street tires and they should be allowed to run them to keep their cost down

[maverick08]

Eldora just posted their 2011 stock car rules. Everything looks the same as last year. Todd Gross

[motorsports12]

the only change i noticed is the wheel base - the min is now 104"

[takeittothelimit]

I wonder what the reason for the 104. Could it be that some of the regulars were already running the 104 and not the 108 that has always been the mininum wheel base rule? Maybe they are going to start doing inspection and they want to be sure these guys pass inspection. I guess it is easier to change the rule for the ones already with the 104 than to enforce the 108 rule. Does anyone have a better reason to change the wheel base rule to 104? I assume the rule change will also happen at Lima. And you guys were grumbling about the rumor to change tires to Hoosiers. lmro It would have been a lot easier to change tires than to cut the frame into and take out 4 inches. Oh wait what else will need to changed if 4 inches is cut out of the frame?? Maybe easier to build a new car. Oh Yeah, this rule change will cut down on expences for this class!!!!! I just hope reguardless of what the rules are that the cars are put through a weekly inspection and the rules are enforced.

[dirt track maniac]

Reason they went 104" is because Lima wanted to use same rules as Big E and lima was in favor of the 104" cause they hope to draw from the huge bomber counts at Oakshade. And since Big E doesn't inspect they probably said why not.

[hoosier race fan]

Not a bad idea to try to draw some of those Oakshade cars. There's plenty of them. I mentioned the Hoosier tires because most of the tracks in Indiana allow the Hoosier E-Mod tires. I know there are a lot of guys in this area that would like to go race at Lima or Eldora, but don't want to buy a set of tires and spares just to do it. If a couple of the tracks here in Indiana would change their body rules, a lot more of the cars from Ohio and Michigan could come race here too. The Indiana tracks and Oakshade also allow 4 barrel carbs. Other than that, the rules are pretty similar.

Edited by hoosier race fan, 21 November 2010 - 01:07 PM.