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[Racer31]

Compacts....I've given it much thought over the weekend and have listened to many of your comments. This past weekend we made a decision to only run an a-main if the class has 10 or less cars. I understand that you loose the possibility of earning the extra heat race points so here is something that I propose: If we get 10 or less we will we will run one heat race with starting order based on pill draw. The based on the order of finishe we will invert draw still but we will draw from numbers 2-4-6-8-10. I feel that this will reduce sandbagging for invert draws since there is still a chance of front row draws plus you could still earn the points for the heats. Any thoughts from compacts or any other fans? We've had this situation one night in stocks also and it could be used for any class that might have a low car count. It is not final but I am looking for input.

[dkdorkboy]

Mr.Kelley,I suggested to you yesterday ,run em the opposite way around the track one nite.Any other fans like to see this this?Thanks Denny

[double checkered]

Interesting idea, but they wont be able to see safety lights.

[MS50]

Ever consider an Australian pursuit? Not sure how you would set the order, since the is no qualifying speeds.

[Racer Kid 31]

I think that is better than not letting us race heat races. and for the backwards thing, i have mixed emotions about it, yes it would be interesting and maybe fun, but at the same time we arent a bunch of clowns like it is being portrayed, we dont race to put on a "funny" show. we put in just as much effort as everybody else that races at wrp. If you guys are going to make us do it, then make everybody else do it too. just my opinion

[double checkered]

I'm not speaking on anyone's behalf but my own. But I didn't take the reverse race as calling anyone a clown. There is no doubt that compacts have as much blood sweat and tears invested as anyone. But we are all in the entertainment business so we are all clowns so to speak. I've seen plenty of "gimmick" races. I find some interesting because its different. But I know some will not share my opinion. Jeremy

[Racer Kid 31]

I can respect that Jeremy. I guess I just see it differently because im a driver in that class. But like i said, if the staff decides to do it, i guess i will have to do it lol. I just hope there is some kind of notice ahead of time otherwise you are going to make some people who are in it for points pretty mad because their cars are set up to turn left lol, and like most other race cars, they dont turn right to good.

[skip]

If you were to run them in the opposite way you would have the safety factor that if some one going into turn 4 there would be the chance of going off into cars waiting to go out for the next race. That could get some one hurt pretty bad. Not a good idea. If cars slide off of turn one they just go over the edge, but going the other way could be very dangerous for track officials lining up cars and other cars with a head on. Just a bad idea, put them all in one heat race. Draw a pill for the heat and feature.

Edited by skip, 10 July 2011 - 11:04 PM.

[Austin]

its easier to run backwards with compacts than any other class due to the fact that everything is mostly stock suspension, so therefore the car isnt set up by racing springs, bars, etc to go counterclockwise.

[Racer Kid 31]

our cars are set up with camber in the wheel to go counter clockwise. some more than others but still. you would have to change several other things too. but yes it may be easier to run backwards with us, but i think your missing my point. i feel like just because we are one of the lower support classes, people dont think our class is racing. mostly because we are fwd. its just the thing of not everybody being treated equal as racers is all that bugs me

[skip]

The compac class takes enought slack from fans and people posting, running the wrong way on the race track is just not gonna get it. Dont mean to be down on any one but why put the compacs to this kind of fun and games.

[AK1]

The compac class takes enought slack from fans and people posting, running the wrong way on the race track is just not gonna get it. Dont mean to be down on any one but why put the compacs to this kind of fun and games.

Not just the fun and games, but like you said before, the safety issue of it is what concerns me. If a car comes around turn two and into turn one, goes over the berm and through the area where the 4 wheeler and wreckers are parked, the only thing between the car and the fans is chain link. If the brakes fail, throttle sticks, or any other mishap, someone is getting hurt badly. With that said, if the idea of running ANY class backwards is brought to the table, my vote is an absolute NO.

[skip]

Not just the fun and games, but like you said before, the safety issue of it is what concerns me. If a car comes around turn two and into turn one, goes over the berm and through the area where the 4 wheeler and wreckers are parked, the only thing between the car and the fans is chain link. If the brakes fail, throttle sticks, or any other mishap, someone is getting hurt badly. With that said, if the idea of running ANY class backwards is brought to the table, my vote is an absolute NO.

I see your point to ive never been down by turn one i dont know whats down there but your right on that to. My point was if they were going the right way and go down the front stretch and get shoved they can just go off of turn one out into the field.

But if the same thing happens and they are going backwards , they could fly right into where the cars enter the track and take out some one standing there , or hit a car sitting there for the next race.

Just to many safety issues in turns 1 and 4 running backwards and the safety lights.

Edited by skip, 11 July 2011 - 04:38 AM.

[Racer31]

Yes the point of running them backwards was a point brought up by a fan. It was considered but after further review our track isn't set up to protect fans or the racers to be able to do that so that would be out of the question. I'm still looking for feedback on the cutoff of 10 and one heat race idea............ I'll probably call a meeting with the compacts next race and discuss with them. Just looking to keep a timely show but not cut anyone short of their fair share of race time and reward.

[dkdorkboy]

Sorry I brought up backwards idea.Saw it at Kokomo many moons ago and the fans loved it.No one left to go to concession stand or restroom when this was going on.Just trying to bring some new fans or retain the old ones at the track.Thanks for listening Dennis Kerner

[double checkered]

Don't be sorry for giving a suggestion. It just wont be able to happen with the layout of our track. As I said before, we are in the entertainment business so we need to do what we can to keep the fans happy. More fans allows for greater payouts which entices more cars which creates more racing.....more entertainment .... circle moves on right direction. Keep the suggestions coming! Jeremy

[compact racer]

Compacts....I've given it much thought over the weekend and have listened to many of your comments. This past weekend we made a decision to only run an a-main if the class has 10 or less cars. I understand that you loose the possibility of earning the extra heat race points so here is something that I propose:

If we get 10 or less we will we will run one heat race with starting order based on pill draw. The based on the order of finishe we will invert draw still but we will draw from numbers 2-4-6-8-10. I feel that this will reduce sandbagging for invert draws since there is still a chance of front row draws plus you could still earn the points for the heats.

Any thoughts from compacts or any other fans? We've had this situation one night in stocks also and it could be used for any class that might have a low car count. It is not final but I am looking for input.

Dan I think why you got so many comment about not having a heat was the points. Another opportunity was lost in a very close battle. The real problem for me was the top guys were from the front to the rear instead of racing each other they had to race the rest of the pack to race who they needed to race. Hopefully we will not have that problem of such a small count again but who knows. Maybe an invert by points would have been better. You'd think by the people who think these aren't real race cars with real set ups that there would be fifty new cars out there just to show the guys how it's done. lol Me I'm just glade we get to race how ever you decide to do it. Turning left of course. Of course you could talk to the sprint guys about the backwards thing... no not really just jokeing. I'd bet that would light up the board though!

[underbird fan]

I agree DONT run em backwards from the standpoint of safety. Denny way to think outside of the box your suggestion, may lead to some great input from others.

[Racer31]

I fully understand Mike and that is why I reconsidered the heat race idea. Even though the heat race would still only be 8 laps it will give the guys a chance to earn their extra points. Not promising this but maybe some night we will offer double points to make it up to you. Again that's not a promise...just a thought.

[skip]

Denny nothing wrong with what you watched at one track and trying to bring it to wrp. I watched one night at allentown early 60,s a driver sitting in the stands watching a fiqure 8 race drinking a beer and saying i will never do that. Then guess what the next race he was out there. The funnist thing i ever saw at allentown was you had to run 2 laps stop at the flag stand take your shoes off throw them over the wall run 2 laps come back put your shoes on and run 2 more laps. I think we need to do that at WRP and give Jeremy a cloths pin for his nose. I dont think we would call him Double checkers, he would be using his other hand holding his nose.