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[Taz Dirt Devil]

Sat night at PPMS safety rules from the pit area was not followed. IF they had been followed Ron Hall would not have a broken thumb today!!!!!!! As he spun out before turn 3, he saw that there were people standing in the pit entrance as he was spinning toward them. As he saw people scatter, he grabbed the wheel trying not to hit them, hitting the tire/pole breaking his thumb. IF he had just spun as he was taught, he would not have the broken thumb today. Also saw people in front entrances from Turn 4 and Turn 1 standing in the opening during racing.... Safety does not mean anything to some people and where were the track security, officials or who ever is suppose to chase/move those idiots out of that area. Active racing does not mean the racer has to watch the openings to the pits also while he/she is racing....... I would say since safety was not followed Miley's need to pay Ron's emergency care and healing.

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

do you realize everything you just said in this post and other posts make no sense in any way?

[dirtguy200948]

do you realize everything you just said in this post and other posts make no sense in any way?

Me and my kids were in turn 1 and saw a #9 car spin right where the cars come out and almost hit some guy standing right there by the tire!

[Paul55]

Me and my kids were in turn 1 and saw a #9 car spin right where the cars come out and almost hit some guy standing right there by the tire!

Pretty sure That was his own Dad he almost hit!

Edited by Paul55, 17 September 2012 - 08:08 PM.

[whiteboy55]

Sat night at PPMS safety rules from the pit area was not followed. IF they had been followed
Ron Hall would not have a broken thumb today!!!!!!! As he spun out before turn 3, he saw that
there were people standing in the pit entrance as he was spinning toward them. As he saw people
scatter, he grabbed the wheel trying not to hit them, hitting the tire/pole breaking his thumb. IF
he had just spun as he was taught, he would not have the broken thumb today.

Also saw people in front entrances from Turn 4 and Turn 1 standing in the opening during racing....

Safety does not mean anything to some people and where were the track security, officials or who
ever is suppose to chase/move those idiots out of that area. Active racing does not mean the racer
has to watch the openings to the pits also while he/she is racing.......

I would say since safety was not followed Miley's need to pay Ron's emergency care and healing.

wow, you are a perfect example of what is wrong with this country.

Edited by whiteboy55, 18 September 2012 - 02:05 PM.

[DavyLee2]

wow, you are a perfect example of what is wrong with this country.

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[Taz Dirt Devil]

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People standing in the openings to the pit area, almost hit by cars spinning out and you say I'm what's wrong with the country. IF they can't read the warnings to stay behind the guardrail or tires then maybe they deserve to be hit but I would NOT want that on any drivers conscious, but that must be ok with you.

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

People standing in the openings to the pit area, almost hit by cars spinning out and you say I'm what's wrong with the country. IF they can't read the warnings to stay behind the guardrail or tires then maybe they deserve to be hit but I would NOT want that on any drivers conscious, but that must be ok with you.

1) Most of those people in the openings are track workers
2) Why was Ron Hall not holding onto the wheel in the first place
3) How exactly are you taught to spin?

[Dingo]

1) Most of those people in the openings are track workers
2) Why was Ron Hall not holding onto the wheel in the first place
3) How exactly are you taught to spin?

He spun half way down the straight? I'm guessing that had he spun anywhere else on the track he would have hit the infield barrier and probably broke his thumb in any case.

Everyone has the shits on with PPMS apparently. All I see on here is whining and bitching. Heres a little suggestion, if you're not happy with the place... DONT GO! That way everyone wont have to put up with your whining and bitching and a lot of people sick of it might come back to Racestud.

Just my thoughts..... and my reason why I hardly ever come on here any more.

Dingo

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

He spun half way down the straight? I'm guessing that had he spun anywhere else on the track he would have hit the infield barrier and probably broke his thumb in any case.

Everyone has the shits on with PPMS apparently. All I see on here is whining and bitching. Heres a little suggestion, if you're not happy with the place... DONT GO! That way everyone wont have to put up with your whining and bitching and a lot of people sick of it might come back to Racestud.

Just my thoughts..... and my reason why I hardly ever come on here any more.

Dingo

Hey I am with you, not really sure what this guy was on when he posted

[DavyLee2]

People standing in the openings to the pit area, almost hit by cars spinning out and you say I'm what's wrong with the country. IF they can't read the warnings to stay behind the guardrail or tires then maybe they deserve to be hit but I would NOT want that on any drivers conscious, but that must be ok with you.

No im sure its the part where you expect everyone else to pay for your f-ups is what he meant.
and ya if your dumb enough to stand on the track you should get run over .. but again .. you would be running to your lawyer to sue the track the drivers the clay the water truck the night the day and then some. I think thats how he felt while reading your Blame anyone but yourself post.
ps sorry the guy broke his thumb !

Edited by DavyLee2, 18 September 2012 - 08:43 PM.

[Taz Dirt Devil]

Welllll, from what I understand, when you go into a spin you do like some NASCAR drivers do before they crash, release the wheel, cross your arms and wait for the crash. As I posted above, the driver shouldn't have to worry about grabbing the wheel trying to avoid people that are standing where they shouldn't be..... Even if they are track workers -- they shouldn't be working if they don't know where to stand safely.

Edited by Taz Dirt Devil, 18 September 2012 - 08:57 PM.

[Small Block Chevy]

hey dirtL8mdlfan21 tell us how you do it when you wrecked your car.

[dirtguy200948]

hey dirtL8mdlfan21 tell us how you do it when you wrecked your car.

He just plays video games like the rest of the racestud people.

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

hey dirtL8mdlfan21 tell us how you do it when you wrecked your car.

When i crashed it i didnt put my hand out the window, in the wheel, in my belts, on my helmet, on the roof, or any other stupid place.. I held onto the wheel and didnt let go.

and dirtfan whatever ur name is, You race a pure stock if i remember correctly, if you have a problem with me dont be an ass and act like some big racecar driver and make fun of me, message me and talk to me like a normal person

Edited by dirtL8MdlFan21&11, 18 September 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[Dingo]

Welllll, from what I understand, when you go into a spin you do like some NASCAR drivers do before they crash, release the wheel, cross your arms and wait for the crash.

As I posted above, the driver shouldn't have to worry about grabbing the wheel trying to avoid people that are standing where they shouldn't be..... Even if they are track workers -- they shouldn't be working if they don't know where to stand safely.

Theres a huge difference between spinning at 200mph on a 2 mile asphalt racetrack and spinning on a dirt half miler. Once cars 'break' on asphalt, there is little to no chance of regaining control... especially at the speeds they do. In short track racing, particularly on dirt, a great percentage of drivers regain control in a spin.... some (particularly in Sprintcars) stand on the gas and complete a 360 degree and carry on. Can you imagine the carnage every week if everyone who lost control, or even partial control let go of the steering wheel?

Biggest problem with a lot of drivers is they drive with their thumbs through the inside of the steering wheel and all you have to do is bang wheels and you can break a thumb. You only do that once and the penny drops.

Sorry the guy broke his thumb, but I'd say it was more through a bad driving technique rather than the tracks fault.

Dingo

[DirtxxxRacing]

First. If Ron could keep the car straight more for more than half a race, he would be in a lot better shape. Second, If someone is standing in the pit entrances, they should sorta kinda be aware that a car could come flying in at any given time. Therefore, people could stand where ever they damn well please, as long as they are aware of whats going on.

[DirtxxxRacing]

Welllll, from what I understand, when you go into a spin you do like some NASCAR drivers do before they crash, release the wheel, cross your arms and wait for the crash.

As I posted above, the driver shouldn't have to worry about grabbing the wheel trying to avoid people that are standing where they shouldn't be..... Even if they are track workers -- they shouldn't be working if they don't know where to stand safely.

Are you a driver? and of what division? Have you ever wrecked going these speeds? and at over 100mph when you hit something, it comes hard and fast. Most times you barely have a reaction time...the best thing you can do as a driver is NOT tuck your thumbs in the wheel, therefore, your thumb cannot get stuck in the wheel. Yes, pulling your arms back away from the wheel is the best option, but not always the easiest reaction. Unless you speak from expierence, dont bitch. thanx

[TheLegend]

Are you a driver? and of what division? Have you ever wrecked going these speeds? and at over 100mph when you hit something, it comes hard and fast. Most times you barely have a reaction time...the best thing you can do as a driver is NOT tuck your thumbs in the wheel, therefore, your thumb cannot get stuck in the wheel. Yes, pulling your arms back away from the wheel is the best option, but not always the easiest reaction. Unless you speak from expierence, dont bitch. thanx

Theoretically its best to not have your thumbs wrapped around the wheel but i dont know of any top slm drivers who use those solid thumbsaver type wheels. I NEVER let go of the steering wheel because on dirt theres always a chance of possibly saving it. If you notice the top of the food chain type guys like bloomquist, oneil, owens etc hardly ever wreck and I would be willing to bet that they hold the wheel and try saving it till the car comes to a stop. You are however right that the tracks shouldnt allow people to stand anywhere there is a high probability of getting hit. Letting go of the wheel would be a good way to make sure a minor crash becomes a major one. Even at daytona i dont think guys like tony stewart give up on saving the car until its junk, ive seen him completely sideways and save it at 190