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[nascarracer28]

First off if u think saying someone should shut up is that rude-u need to grow up.youve never seen me swearing or name calling. I've always tried to be honest and wen one of our cars got caught w an illegal carb I admitted it on this site for all to see and apologized even though it was not my decision.Insofar as cheAting- I stand behind wat I said. Tech the cars and there will be no issue- end of story. It's insulting to all the teams out there wen officials turn a blind eye. If you're out there spending time and money and one or two cars are crushing the field You would understand. I've never hid behind some fake name and I've offered to pay for dynos to prove it and I've called extreme cheaters out publicly and they know who I am and have talked crap on me and made threats. Ignoring the rules by officials and extreme cheating has cost alot of guys alot of time money and wins AND has forced guys to cheat more and more just to compete. That's insulting.Never once have they offered to prove they were legit. Oh by the way wen tech'd I've never been wrong. Go and build a car based on the rules and on wat rules have been ignored for years then have the track change the rules after the season began -see how u feel. Also explain why u need a motor location rule and a percentage rule- 54% is 54%. Sorry I was wrong. Don't tech the cars most guys in that division think are cheating- give them an open microphone for another victory speech.

I AGREE WITH YOU ON TEAMS BEING INSULTED ON THE TECH ISSUE, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PLAY BY THE RULES AND SEE THEM BROKEN WEEKEND AND WEEK OUT IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING. THE TIRE ISSUE FOR INSTANCE LAST YEAR WHEN THEY WHERE CONFISCATING 2 TIRES YOU RAN THAT NIGHT TO HAVE TO RUN THE NEXT WEEK WAS A JOKE. I SEEN ( NO NAMES ) HAVE 2 NEW TIRES SITTING THERE WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU RUN THEM THAT NIGHT, FOR NEXT WEEKS RACE AND WHEN FEATURE TIME CAME HE HAD 4 NEW TIRES ON AND WON THE RACE, GO FIGURE. I RACE LIKE MOST OF US ON A VERY LIMITED BUDGET NOW A DAYS WITH THE WAY THE ECONOMY IS, MOSTLY ON WHAT I MAKE AT THE TRACK WHICH TELLS ME WHEN I CAN RACE NEXT SO EVERY POSITION CAN MEAN SOMETHING TO US AND OTHERS. THATS WHY I AM SUCH AN OPPONENT FOR STICKING TO THE RULES. I KNOW ALOT HAS TO DO WITH EXPERIENCE AND HANDLING IN THE CORNERS, BUT NOTHING CAN BEAT STRAIGHTAWAY SPEED BUT MORE HORSEPOWER. MY QUESTION WILL BE IF YOU TAKE YOUR ENGINE TO BE SEALED, OR WHATEVER THEY ARE DOING TO IT ARE THE TECHS GOING TO CHECK EVERY CAR EVERY NIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SEALED OR MAYBE HAS BEEN REPLACED BY ANOTHER ENGINE. IT WOULD MAKE NO SENSE TO SPEND 550.00 DOLLARS TO ONLY GET THEM INSPECTED ONLY ONCE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON. SO LETS GET THE REST OF THE RULES UP SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, HOW ABOUT THAT SCHEDULE LET US KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON THERE ALSO.

Edited by nascarracer28, 29 November 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[rocket15]

You people sure do alot of bitchen for only 1 asphalt track around what are u gonna do when its not there you sure won,t go to dirt racin and get your asses waxed there 4 sure

[jmmr]

You people sure do alot of bitchen for only 1 asphalt track around what are u gonna do when its not there you sure won,t go to dirt racin and get your asses waxed there 4 sure

Hopefully we won't have to find out. But hey genius what do u call Erie? looks like that track is doing real well. You must be one of those idiots who hates asphalt. I'm sure u are real familiar w ass waxing but that's prob best for another site...we talk abt racing here. Thanks.

[D1RT]

Hopefully we won't have to find out. But hey genius what do u call Erie? looks like that track is doing real well. You must be one of those idiots who hates asphalt. I'm sure u are real familiar w ass waxing but that's prob best for another site...we talk abt racing here. Thanks.

Add CNB Raceway in Clearfield too.....

[nascarracer28]

I SEE WE HAVE AN ASPHALT BASHER, I JUST DON'T GET IT, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT WHY READ THE POST'S, SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE MORE INTERESTED THAN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO THINK, MAYBE JUST TRYING TO IMPRESS SOMEONE. I THINK IF YOU ARE A TRUE RACER OR FAN YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE ANY TRACK CLOSE BECAUSE YOURS COULD ALWAYS BE NEXT. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL FORMS OF RACING ASPHALT, DIRT, DRAG, MOTORCYCLE, BOAT AND I RACE FOR COMPETITION AND JUST TO BE AROUND FELLOW RACERS, NOT MONEY HELL THAT'S FOR SURE. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHO IS BETTER OR FASTER IT JUST PLAIN AND SIMPLE, IT'S THE LOVE OF RACING. IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT FORM OF RACING IS BETTER IT'S GETTING OUT THERE AND CHALLENGING YOURSELF AND YOUR MACHINE TO DO THE BEST OF YOUR CAPABILITIES. YEAH WE ARE GRIPING A BIT ABOUT THINGS BUT IF YOU READ, WHICH YOU PROBABLY DID SINCE YOU ARE SO INTERESTED, IN EARLIER POST THERE IS PRAISE FOR WHAT STAN AND THE OFFICALS ARE DOING AND TRYING TO DO TO KEEP RACING GOING. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE QUESTIONS ON HOW THINGS ARE DONE, THAT'S THE NATURE OF IT, BUT WE EARN THE RIGHT BY RACING THERE, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO QUESTION WHAT WE THINK SINCE YOU HAVE NO INTEREST IN IT OR DO YOU? ALL WE WANT IS A FAIR RACING AND AN A PLACE TO DO IT AT THAT'S ALL. THANKS TO ALL WHO SUPPORT ALL RACING EVEN THE HATERS, JUST SUPPORT IT AND MAYBE WE WILL SEE MORE TRACKS OPENING INSTEAD OF CLOSING.

[bugs]

There is no way the 31 motor is legal-I've said it many times and I'll say it again. Anytime he wants to pull it out I'll prove it and make the bet. Regardless he was one if the guys Stan caters to-we all know that as evidenced by his whining at the beginning of the year and the rule changes after the season began. He's also the king of pounding the car in front of him or pushing you in the wall then apologizing afterward. Not so much last year but def the two years prior. His car is well set up though As far as the rule changes I think it's a step in the right direction overall- but with many catches. Why are u worried bout motor location IF you have a front weight % rule-that makes absolutely no sense. Also there is no way a stock crate will be as fast as some of the open motors out there- it will never happen. I'm buying a legal bone stock crate shortly and I will prove it. If Stan doesn't tech the open motors already there then it will be more of the same just all open motors. The sad part is many of us believe a gear rule would've been more than sufficient and a ton cheaper for all. I wanna see wat tech does w the rules-hopefully history won't predict this future. If Stan would've done his job last year the year before...it wouldn't have such a big impact like now. as far as cheating maybe some of the boys in each division should just start throwing the cheaters in the wall. That's wat I'm hopin for and some r suggesting.

jmmrHow about the 83 running the TBRA and finishing 4 and 5 in the standings( if you don't know they have 2 rankings to win point money must run a percentage of races to get point money) For a young driver to practice 2 times and run a 100 lap race finish 4 against the top driver from 4 states must be some skill there. Plus there is one more I like to see get late model ride is the 31 cars I think he'll do as good as any of them Both guy can drive and set a car for max turn speed. The 2nd thing I like to see is the 34 and 83 swap power plants at the track on the2nd race but there is one condition for this your car starts on the pole and the 83 no more than 8 starting position. In 25 laps he will beat you and that will prove it's driver and not engine. Hopefully you dont go late model all we will hear is the 11, 98, 95, 1, 96, 33, and 75 is cheating it any one running better than you is a cheater maybe they have more skill than you give credit for.

[jmmr]

jmmrHow about the 83 running the TBRA and finishing 4 and 5 in the standings( if you don't know they have 2 rankings to win point money must run a percentage of races to get point money) For a young driver to practice 2 times and run a 100 lap race finish 4 against the top driver from 4 states must be some skill there. Plus there is one more I like to see get late model ride is the 31 cars I think he'll do as good as any of them Both guy can drive and set a car for max turn speed. The 2nd thing I like to see is the 34 and 83 swap power plants at the track on the2nd race but there is one condition for this your car starts on the pole and the 83 no more than 8 starting position. In 25 laps he will beat you and that will prove it's driver and not engine. Hopefully you dont go late model all we will hear is the 11, 98, 95, 1, 96, 33, and 75 is cheating it any one running better than you is a cheater maybe they have more skill than you give credit for.

[jmmr]

First off there is not a s.s. driver that beleives that car is legal-please name one -please. Secondly give me his shockS too. Thirdly the kid can drive no doubt-hell I congratulated him on his late model runs myself you see ill give credit when credits due. Fourth if u are winning races repetitively your car should get tore down-esp if u r doing it by ten car lengths from the rear of the pack. As far as our motor-well we didn't win so its a stupid argument. I also have 4 motors-please tell me which one I was running and how u know. Fifth if u get impounded don't make a big scene-u look guilty as hell. Sixth-ive only ever brought up three cars in five years and we run three divisions so get your facts straight genius. And tech couldve cleared that issue right up- by the way ive offered stan three times to pay for dynos to prove a problem existed. Oh yeah a week before the83 got disqualified I called him out on this site. U should really get your facts straight before u open your mouth.

[bugs]

First off there is not a s.s. driver that beleives that car is legal-please name one -please. Secondly give me his shockS too. Thirdly the kid can drive no doubt-hell I congratulated him on his late model runs myself you see ill give credit when credits due. Fourth if u are winning races repetitively your car should get tore down-esp if u r doing it by ten car lengths from the rear of the pack. As far as our motor-well we didn't win so its a stupid argument. I also have 4 motors-please tell me which one I was running and how u know. Fifth if u get impounded don't make a big scene-u look guilty as hell. Sixth-ive only ever brought up three cars in five years and we run three divisions so get your facts straight genius. And tech couldve cleared that issue right up- by the way ive offered stan three times to pay for dynos to prove a problem existed. Oh yeah a week before the83 got disqualified I called him out on this site. U should really get your facts straight before u open your mouth.

JMMR its was a to prove a poiint that driver and setup is 90% to win races not horsepower but your in a rut and seems like a personal vindenta againt 2 driver that win. You will be happy when the rules read : rules by JMMR and not the track name. Brought up motor now its shocks whats next. I have been going motor drome since it opened and work in two winning crews so I'm not a dumb a.. as you think. Second on dirt horsepower and a missed setup you can make up it up with the horsepower and driver but on payment your finnished. 99% of winning drivers on payment have good turn speed as stated before in this topic. Lets name a few Craigan, Peles, Mitchel, for a few won a lot of races and it wasn't horsepower it was turn speed that did it. In street stock and late modles all your winning driver do it will set-up and turn speed and as could be figured past and present winning are cheaters. I've watched your driver for 3 years and he fights the wheel through turns and the winning drivers are smooth. Quit you complaining get out of the pits set in turns or stands and watch your drivers hand compared to the rest of them. You lose all your speed in the turns now figure out what needs to be done to correct it and let your driver be smooth and win some racers. Your comment about being torn down who's going to pay to put back togeather ask Flick what it cost him and look at the mods . It will destroy what ever is left out there right now being dirt or payment. You want tear down fine the person that wants the tear down will pay to have motor put back togeather if found legal and that person will be torn down too. Might stop complaining in 40 years going racing most complainer are not legal to begin with so who beats them can not be legal, sound like that was heard before right.

[jmmr]

Dude-in case you haven't noticed this ain't dirt. Half of wat u said was completely irrelevant. And when guys have tried to make a challenge the officials have refused-so there goes your 'you pay for it theory'. AND if tech doesn't do tear downs-which they haven't all it does is cost everybody more money in motor builds and the guy on a budget gets screwed. The track has a few main jobs-one of which is to provide a fair playing field. And if u think that doesn't hinder guys from racing you haven't learned much in all your years and by the way-since u are so smart-shocks have been an issue since last year mid season. Lets see double adjustable and penske rebuildable vs. a $60 steel shock. There is no comparison esp. in comp./rebound combinations. Hey u got all the answers and know it all. Oh yeah that idea to fine the guy who wanted the tear down-? The person wanting a challenge has to fork up a huge amt. To even make a challenge. Yeah lets also throw a fine on the guy whos so fed up he putsvup his own money to make a point and do wat the track should've done for free. Great idea.

[suhoney18]

Add CNB Raceway in Clearfield too.....

thanks for bringing that up....have done my best to forget that place even exists now

[scoot]

screw it....make it "run what you brung" in all classes,then youll see something interesting.

[deadpush]

screw it....make it "run what you brung" in all classes,then youll see something interesting.

How many RWYB classes have you and your wallet participated in? Please aprise us of your vast experience and knowledge base.

Edited by deadpush, 08 December 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[mayorand1stladyofturn4]

I think stan should pay 5 grand to win for each class. Since he doesnt send out the checks or they bounce when he does this will draw more cars and not cost him any more money.

There are people that work there that have not been payed for the last race. Why would you want to race there knowing that he plays favorites and dont pay people! Put the dirt back down it was a better place to race.