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[Thunder Dog]

AMP has been hearing complaints and we need to set the record straight! We like to hear feedback, whether good or bad and try to address everything. Many of the employees are new and we're all still learning, when we hear something we address it, which brings us to this post. First, No one was told at the drivers meeting or any other time during the night, that the scale would not be used. I was at the drivers meeting, so I know this to be true. Number two, Luke Hoffner did not go to the scales, and as unfortunate as it was, he was disqualified for failing to do so. Regardless of who it is, that's the rule and they have to be enforced. Semi Lates: Jeff said effective immediately if there are six or less cars, the winner will get $350; for 7-10 it will pay $400 and as more cars begin to show up, then the pay out will continue to increase. 305 Sprints: Unfortunately the wrong pay out was used last night. The pay out the drivers got paid from was for the Racesaver Sprints, not the track pay out, so, everyone who was paid less than expected will get the balance of what is due via check in the mail. It was an error on the speedways part, and for that we are sorry.

[weezer2]

Thanks for the clarifications about last night. Jeff and crew are doing a good job for being newbies.

[fordblueoval]

Just a comment about the purse decrease. If Jeff is truly commited to building this class up, then cutting the pay is NOT the way to go. This discourages racers to continue to build a car for this class if they know they are not going to get the $500 for a win. Jeff is going to have to eat some money if he wants it to grow and that was the indication at the start of the season.

[suhoney18]

Just a comment about the purse decrease. If Jeff is truly commited to building this class up, then cutting the pay is NOT the way to go. This discourages racers to continue to build a car for this class if they know they are not going to get the $500 for a win.

Jeff is going to have to eat some money if he wants it to grow and that was the indication at the start of the season.

why pay $500 for 5-10 cars when the street stocks are getting about the same and always have around 15 a week?

[Walt Wimer]

Will someone fill me in on the AMP "semi-late" class?? From where I sit 100 miles away, it appears to be somewhat of a "bastard" class that allows more modifications than a street stock, but is not quite a "Limited Late Model", maybe something like the so called "Limited Late Model" class at Stateline & Eriez, which doesn't fit in with anything else run at other tracks.

[suhoney18]

Will someone fill me in on the AMP "semi-late" class?? From where I sit 100 miles away, it appears to be somewhat of a "bastard" class that allows more modifications than a street stock, but is not quite a "Limited Late Model", maybe something like the so called "Limited Late Model" class at Stateline & Eriez, which doesn't fit in with anything else run at other tracks.

pretty much spot on walt....if you build a car for this class you pretty much have no where else to run...funny how this is supposed to be an "affordable entry class" but of course it comes back to pay outs...

[bobvogtjr30]

Will someone fill me in on the AMP "semi-late" class?? From where I sit 100 miles away, it appears to be somewhat of a "bastard" class that allows more modifications than a street stock, but is not quite a "Limited Late Model", maybe something like the so called "Limited Late Model" class at Stateline & Eriez, which doesn't fit in with anything else run at other tracks.

It is like th s/e llm class in the motor area but are an actual late model chassis and not a 2x3 stock stub class like eriez. I believe they actually outlawed stubs at amp. The idea behind it is great and if they could get other tracks to run it I think it would be great. Its more of a poor mans crate class. A 602 would be legal but not the 604 cuz of the aluminum heads. Also a shock rule as well. Kind of doing something different like Sharon did with the 2 bbl mods. If they stick with it the class will definitely grow. Pretty much cheaper to build than a SS. I was thinking about running my llm there until they said no stubs allowed. I could see the numbers double/ triple by end of next yr.

[race ace]

I would think that someone running a 602 crate car that was getting their a$$ handed to them week in and week out would peel off the spoiler and buy a set of oil filled shocks and come down here and try to help build this class, i would almost guarantee if they had 12 or 15 of them next week you would get paid the posted purse . there are guys out there willing to try , these drivers need to call one another and try to get all these cars together on one night and race instead of everyone trying to guess if anyone is going to show up or not Jake Shady had 2 cars there one week so there is just getting everyone there at once.

[kip77]

Will someone fill me in on the AMP "semi-late" class?? From where I sit 100 miles away, it appears to be somewhat of a "bastard" class that allows more modifications than a street stock, but is not quite a "Limited Late Model", maybe something like the so called "Limited Late Model" class at Stateline & Eriez, which doesn't fit in with anything else run at other tracks.

Walt, this class is exactly what the crate series should have been. Late model cars with low budget engines and shocks. The cam rule is a great way to level the playing field. I really think its the way to go with stock frames getting harder and harder to find. This type of class is where the stock type classes are heading. Hell it's a lot cheaper to build a semi late than a street stock.

[rsadiedog]

This class does have a somewhat unique motor rule, and the no adjustable shock rule, other than that it's a late model without the spoiler. I do agree that they should have went with a more popular engine rule, such as the old silver springs 358 late model rule that Bedford, Susquehanna, Williams Grove, Hagerstown, and a few others have used. Word is that Port Royal is going to run the southern 358 rule next year as well and dump their pro stocks. The shock rule at AMP is awesome and truely saves the racer some money. My opinion, and it is just that, my opinion, is that this class can be very sucessful with a few minor changes. I agree that you need to have a limited late model class that is truely limited, not the steel block class that saves no one any money except for the promoters, but it needs to be something that allows you to draw cars from around the state and also allows your cars to go elsewhere on off nights. Promtors have tried to pigeon hole their lower money maker classes for years by making unique rules that keeps the locals at home, but I personally feel that it hurts more than it helps. So i think that they should use the sotuhern PA 358 rule and also allow both the 602 and 604 crate motors, and that's it, keep the shock rule as it is. Oh and one more thing, put the spoiler back on, they look stupid with no spoiler! Otherwise, kudos to Jeff for trying something new, and soemthing that will make for good racing for the fans while not breaking the driver's wallets! That type of thinking is the only way this sport will flourish!

Edited by rsadiedog, 08 July 2013 - 07:36 AM.

[dylchris]

There are now 11 of these cars that raced at AMP and another one should be there this week or definitely next week. The class will continue to grow as it is; the cam rule really controls what a person will spend on an engine. Aluminum heads are legal, the 604 is not legal because of the roller cam. There were two new winners Saturday night, I beleive at least one is a crate engine; I also believe that once this class is established; other tracks will add them to the card.

[rocket53]

There are now 11 of these cars that raced at AMP and another one should be there this week or definitely next week. The class will continue to grow as it is; the cam rule really controls what a person will spend on an engine. Aluminum heads are legal, the 604 is not legal because of the roller cam. There were two new winners Saturday night, I beleive at least one is a crate engine; I also believe that once this class is established; other tracks will add them to the card.

i think the way to go is the 602 crate engine 3500.00 new and its a strong motor it will last 2 seasons easily if mantained and not over reved their are lots of latemodel chassis out there and used motors . i think ounce the word gets out that the 7up car has a 602 you will see more cars jmo

[ramey36]

There are now 11 of these cars that raced at AMP and another one should be there this week or definitely next week. The class will continue to grow as it is; the cam rule really controls what a person will spend on an engine. Aluminum heads are legal, the 604 is not legal because of the roller cam. There were two new winners Saturday night, I beleive at least one is a crate engine; I also believe that once this class is established; other tracks will add them to the card.

I applaud Jeff's commitment to the class and the Fenton's desire to field cars for the class. It takes a lot of physical work, time, and money, to haul cars each week, put tires on them and race them.

I look for this class to keep getting stronger. There could easily be double digits by the end of the season.

And coordinating drivers like mentioned above sounds like a great idea. Get them all there on the same night...

[gofast05]

no disrespect but I am really glad to see hoffner get DQ'd. that doesn't sound very nice, and nothing against luke, but he's a crowd, and track favorite, and jeff taylor stuck to his guns and made the right call. I applaud and respect that. I think this track is doing much better than everyone expected, and will continue to do so as long as the right calls are made. mistakes will be made, as everyone is human. but jeff and the whole place have my respect.

[bobvogtjr30]

There are now 11 of these cars that raced at AMP and another one should be there this week or definitely next week. The class will continue to grow as it is; the cam rule really controls what a person will spend on an engine. Aluminum heads are legal, the 604 is not legal because of the roller cam. There were two new winners Saturday night, I beleive at least one is a crate engine; I also believe that once this class is established; other tracks will add them to the card.

Ok I knew the 604 was illegal I thought it was because of the heads but I didn't read the rules that closely. Seems like a great idea for a class that would be more affordable than a ss for sure not just money wise but u can find a lot of older late model chassis out there cheap that have nowhere for them to go. Nowhere for late model huys to sell their used chassis. Really hope this class works Itself out. This is what crates were supposed to be! I had the first 602 in the area when crates were started at rw7 and thought it was going to be like this class. Boy was I wrong and look at those cars now!!

[dylchris]

exactly, you can be race ready in this class for less than the top crate cars are spending on just the four corner suspension. If the rules are left alone; I think this class will flourish and develop into a very large field.

Ok I knew the 604 was illegal I thought it was because of the heads but I didn't read the rules that closely. Seems like a great idea for a class that would be more affordable than a ss for sure not just money wise but u can find a lot of older late model chassis out there cheap that have nowhere for them to go. Nowhere for late model huys to sell their used chassis. Really hope this class works Itself out. This is what crates were supposed to be! I had the first 602 in the area when crates were started at rw7 and thought it was going to be like this class. Boy was I wrong and look at those cars now!!

[crateracer7]

I agree the semi late class is going to grow. I think a few things could be changed to attract some more cars I took a crate car and changed the shocks blew a couple years of dust off the 602 and put it in and seem to have a competitive car I know there are more crate cars out there just have to get the word out