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[jmmr]

So tonight Motordrome apparently opted to enforce ALL the rules- a move unforeseen and not taken all season-which resulted in dq'ing 3 division first time winners. Here's the problem-in at least two divisions they have let winners KEEP their win after similar infractions. But they pick tonight??? Why did the others get away w illegal heads. Why aren't the chargers checked for things like altered firewalls-floorpans-rear suspension-seat location/ misc. cut out areas/lowered fuel cells.....why are they so reluctant to run winning chargers across the scales and compare to those chargers they know are 'stock' to check for weight distribution? Why do they refuse to check for undercover port work? Here's a little gauge- if it's too good to beleive it's prob not true. Let me be the first to say I have crossed the line many occasions- why?-because the track ignored the rules and rants and raves of guys like me over and over Til guys like me said screw it lets do it to just to try and be competitive. Lets pack the stands finally and screw some racers 2/3 through the season-lets ignore the fact that others slid through tech w violations THIS YEAR. Great job guys-please tell us what rules you will enforce what weeks for which drivers. Your actions are disgraceful. Any guy has a problem w what I'm saying come see me-I've been threatened physically before- come bring it. Better yet prove me wrong-You know who I am. Ill spell it out For you. Hands down Mike congrats on the win-oh yeah my brother won w that same part last year and they knew and did nothing.. Joel Minjock Minjock Racing.

[Navin R. Johnson]

Waaaaa Cheater and besides, you be preachin to the wrong choir here, son. Folklore has it that there used to be a real race track called Motordrome, somewhere off I-70. It was dirt back then.

[jmmr]

Waaaaa
Cheater

and besides, you be preachin to the wrong choir here, son.
Folklore has it that there used to be a real race track called Motordrome, somewhere off I-70.
It was dirt back then.

Dirt guys are the biggest whiners I have ever met. With the tracks you lost this year-yeah that's what we need. Wonder why they don't run sprint cup on dirt.? Ill tell you-dirt was where they raced Til they learned how much better it was on asphalt/concrete. Dirt is for growing corn...grow up!

[smokin66]

Motordrome techs more thoroughly than any track I've seen. Other tracks should take a page from their book. I'm sorry you sad.

[jmmr]

I'm not sad- I like the direction in which much is going. It's the week to week inconsistencies and perceived favoritism. You have a guy out there in the four cyl. That's bullied young bucksoff the track-had several altercations(granted not for a few weeks). I personally was told if it happened again he would be gone by an official. Two episodes later- not even a one week suspension. C'mon man. It's not the rules- I am all for rules-even if it costs me money and time-it is letting a guy go for one thing then nailing a guy to a cross for another. That is by no means fair and that is the problem. Also lets say I'm a poor racer- my headwork will get caught. I got money- my port work passes all day. Who is the track hurting? They are hurting half the guys out there- they are helping a few to win. Go try to run without work and let me know how it goes. You wonder why the S.S. count is 8. Let me reiterate- I love racing and Motordrome. I personally get along w the officials. But Man it could be so much better and actually foster an environment where guys want to move up and can afford to do so. How about 1 mtg with all the guys of one division to discuss how they could make it better-why is that such a hard concept? Hasn't happened in the ten years I've been there. Here's another thing- if a guy barely wins and had to bend the rules to do so-what does that say about the car on his heels. Yeah I know good driving and setup . Maybe. Maybe not. How bout take some direction from the guy that actually listens to racers-billy Hribar. That might be a good start.

[#1pitcrew]

Dirt guys are the biggest whiners I have ever met. With the tracks you lost this year-yeah that's what we need. Wonder why they don't run sprint cup on dirt.? Ill tell you-dirt was where they raced Til they learned how much better it was on asphalt/concrete. Dirt is for growing corn...grow up!

no no u have it all wrong, dirt is for racing, asphalt is for getting there, I went to motordrome once, it was the most boring race ive ever been to, I wldve rather went grocery shoppin, anybody can drive on asphalt, even my grandma. dirt racin actually takes skill.

[jmmr]

no no u have it all wrong, dirt is for racing, asphalt is for getting there, I went to motordrome once, it was the most boring race ive ever been to, I wldve rather went grocery shoppin, anybody can drive on asphalt, even my grandma. dirt racin actually takes skill.

Skill yes- setup not so much in comparison-driver style can adjust more in dirt to loose or tight. I can see why u think asphalt is boring. You must enjoy talking to your freinds during the 30 minutes of cautions and proceeding wait for lineups at every race. Maybe it's the five car count in two divisions at Ppms you enjoy-they are thrilling!

[BaconBits]

I've never understood the disdain some dirt and asphalt fans have for each other. To me, racing is racing. There's good and bad tracks and races on both surfaces. I find Motordrome to be much better racing than most asphalt tracks I've been to. It's a shame that they can't get more cars.

[BUTTBEAK]

I feel your pain on this. Been there done that with bending the rules, on occasion bent real far. They might as well print rules on toilet paper if they are not enforced and policed, proactively. Sucks when spot checking goes on. Usually a lot of cars take the week off the following week with newly enforced rules or lay down to bypass inspections ...till the heat is off.

As far as the track surface, I am a racer.......... I'll race you barefoot over broken glass for a buck, line 'em up and lets' get it on!


If your cheat and get caught, don't bitch!

[motordrome4]

Who has the "non stock" 602 crate for sale in the classifieds. Hmmmmmmmm. Was it "not stock enough"

Edited by motordrome4, 03 August 2013 - 11:28 AM.

[DavyLee2]

So tonight Motordrome apparently opted to enforce ALL the rules- a move unforeseen and not taken all season-which resulted in dq'ing 3 division first time winners. Here's the problem-in at least two divisions they have let winners KEEP their win after similar infractions. But they pick tonight??? Why did the others get away w illegal heads. Why aren't the chargers checked for things like altered firewalls-floorpans-rear suspension-seat location/ misc. cut out areas/lowered fuel cells.....why are they so reluctant to run winning chargers across the scales and compare to those chargers they know are 'stock' to check for weight distribution? Why do they refuse to check for undercover port work? Here's a little gauge- if it's too good to beleive it's prob not true. Let me be the first to say I have crossed the line many occasions- why?-because the track ignored the rules and rants and raves of guys like me over and over Til guys like me said screw it lets do it to just to try and be competitive. Lets pack the stands finally and screw some racers 2/3 through the season-lets ignore the fact that others slid through tech w violations THIS YEAR. Great job guys-please tell us what rules you will enforce what weeks for which drivers. Your actions are disgraceful. Any guy has a problem w what I'm saying come see me-I've been threatened physically before- come bring it. Better yet prove me wrong-You know who I am. Ill spell it out For you. Hands down Mike congrats on the win-oh yeah my brother won w that same part last year and they knew and did nothing.. Joel Minjock Minjock Racing.

you admit your a cheeter ?

[DavyLee2]

Dirt guys are the biggest whiners I have ever met. With the tracks you lost this year-yeah that's what we need. Wonder why they don't run sprint cup on dirt.? Ill tell you-dirt was where they raced Til they learned how much better it was on asphalt/concrete. Dirt is for growing corn...grow up!

Did you ever here of ELDORA and the NASCAR CRAFTSMAN TRUCK WORLD SERIES?

Edited by DavyLee2, 03 August 2013 - 09:47 PM.

[trackpitbull]

So tonight Motordrome apparently opted to enforce ALL the rules- a move unforeseen and not taken all season-which resulted in dq'ing 3 division first time winners. Here's the problem-in at least two divisions they have let winners KEEP their win after similar infractions. But they pick tonight??? Why did the others get away w illegal heads. Why aren't the chargers checked for things like altered firewalls-floorpans-rear suspension-seat location/ misc. cut out areas/lowered fuel cells.....why are they so reluctant to run winning chargers across the scales and compare to those chargers they know are 'stock' to check for weight distribution? Why do they refuse to check for undercover port work? Here's a little gauge- if it's too good to beleive it's prob not true. Let me be the first to say I have crossed the line many occasions- why?-because the track ignored the rules and rants and raves of guys like me over and over Til guys like me said screw it lets do it to just to try and be competitive. Lets pack the stands finally and screw some racers 2/3 through the season-lets ignore the fact that others slid through tech w violations THIS YEAR. Great job guys-please tell us what rules you will enforce what weeks for which drivers. Your actions are disgraceful. Any guy has a problem w what I'm saying come see me-I've been threatened physically before- come bring it. Better yet prove me wrong-You know who I am. Ill spell it out For you. Hands down Mike congrats on the win-oh yeah my brother won w that same part last year and they knew and did nothing.. Joel Minjock Minjock Racing.

I agree jmmr. Along those lines how about the street stocks and modified. I'm not insinuating there's anything illegal going on But why not thoroughly check these 2 racers out who each have 6+ wins. I'm sure some of the other racers in these divisions are getting a little upset especially after the 7th win in a modified and all you get checked is your carb, COME ON tech inspectors we can do better than that. I know it was late and the last race but do your job and be consistent across the board. Same with the street stock division , 6 wins , and your "same motor" is that much better week after week. I do understand there is some strategy in the setup but I'm pretty sure some of the other racer's know a bit about setup also.

[SpeedyGonzales]

Ever think their chasis set up is just that much better? Faster thru the turns means faster down the straights. Just sayin.

[trackpitbull]

Ever think their chasis set up is just that much better? Faster thru the turns means faster down the straights. Just sayin.

As I stated I totally understand the set up part But many of these racers have a lot of experience and they know how to set up a race car. So to say that one persons car is set up that much better than ALL the other racers at the track would lead me to believe you are trying to cover up some possible engine work that might be illegal i.e. Brezinski heads, lightweight crank to name a few. JUST SAYIN

[trackpitbull]

As I stated I totally understand the set up part But many of these racers have a lot of experience and they know how to set up a race car. So to say that one persons car is set up that much better than ALL the other racers at the track would lead me to believe you are trying to cover up some possible engine work that might be illegal i.e. Brezinski heads, lightweight crank to name a few. JUST SAYIN

While we are on the set up subject it is obvious you DO NOT attend the races cause if you did you would undoubtedly see that the #3 modified cars set up is far from spot on when he looks like he's dirt tracking it coming out of the turns. So my intuition would tell me he MUST have that much more motor to compensate for the lack of set up or the #94 car is THAT slow. As far as the #5 SST car, his set up seems to be on point with the way he handles through the turns and he does have great straight away speed which is partly because of his good set up.

[smokin66]

I agree jmmr. Along those lines how about the street stocks and modified. I'm not insinuating there's anything illegal going on But why not thoroughly check these 2 racers out who each have 6+ wins. I'm sure some of the other racers in these divisions are getting a little upset especially after the 7th win in a modified and all you get checked is your carb, COME ON tech inspectors we can do better than that. I know it was late and the last race but do your job and be consistent across the board. Same with the street stock division , 6 wins , and your "same motor" is that much better week after week. I do understand there is some strategy in the setup but I'm pretty sure some of the other racer's know a bit about setup also.

[smokin66]

I agree jmmr. Along those lines how about the street stocks and modified. I'm not insinuating there's anything illegal going on But why not thoroughly check these 2 racers out who each have 6+ wins. I'm sure some of the other racers in these divisions are getting a little upset especially after the 7th win in a modified and all you get checked is your carb, COME ON tech inspectors we can do better than that. I know it was late and the last race but do your job and be consistent across the board. Same with the street stock division , 6 wins , and your "same motor" is that much better week after week. I do understand there is some strategy in the setup but I'm pretty sure some of the other racer's know a bit about setup also.

They did pull a head off the 05 a few weeks ago. The car owner offed to pull the crank as well and tech didn't allow him. The 05 was battling some issues in the corners awhile back. Once they found the problem he's been on rails

[smokin66]

Also the O5 runs an open motor. Not a crate, so I doubt its the "same" as anyone else's. There are many different combinations of parts that come together to make an engine perfect for a certain chassis, driver and track.. they hit the nail on the head

[trackpitbull]

Also the O5 runs an open motor. Not a crate, so I doubt its the "same" as anyone else's. There are many different combinations of parts that come together to make an engine perfect for a certain chassis, driver and track.. they hit the nail on the head

Like I said it seems like he is on point with everything. When I said same motor I was trying to say that everyone with a crate should be REALLY REALLY close to the same and an open motor SHOULD at least be in the same ballpark beings there are maximum tolerances. He does seem to have the perfect set up and is a great competitor, unlike the #3 modified car who is all over the track with his set up but seems to have one hammer of an engine to make up for the poor set up. Just very unfortunate that #14 late model gets a full body cavity search in his first thought to be win but after a 7th win you get a carb check.