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[badass bowtie]

What happened at track last night that the police were called numerous times?? Fight in pits?? I was at Attica and Lucas + All Star Sprint race. I also heard someone was hit by car out front of parking lot and life flight was called.

Edited by badass bowtie, 31 August 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[tireguy9910]

What happened at track last night that the police were called numerous times?? Fight in pits?? I was at Attica and Lucas + All Star Sprint race. I also heard a woman was hit by car out front of parking lot and life flight was called.

1. guy got hit on a motor cycle, life flight was called in

2. ed lynch sr tried to take a swing at smokey. and his crew would not leave so they tossed ed off the track.

[whiteboy55]

1. guy got hit on a motor cycle, life flight was called in

2. ed lynch sr tried to take a swing at smokey. and his crew would not leave so they tossed ed off the track.

Did he connect? That's some funny s it

Hope all goes well for the motorcycle rider!

Edited by whiteboy55, 31 August 2013 - 12:03 PM.

[Hot Dog]

2. ed lynch sr tried to take a swing at smokey. and his crew would not leave so they tossed ed off the track.

Good to see the old timers still have some pep. They've both gotta be in their 70's.

[badass bowtie]

from what I just found out. Ed was DQ. you are only allowed to be pushed off 3 times. and a modified pulled out of infield and Ed spun it out. and that started all the bullshit. His crew was not happy. Hope someone else chimes in here. Guy shows up once bluemoon and gets DQ for some bullshit thing. Only at Lernerville.

[#1Cgeislerfan]

from what I just found out. Ed was DQ. you are only allowed to be pushed off 3 times. and a modified pulled out of infield and Ed spun it out. and that started all the bullshit. His crew was not happy. Hope someone else chimes in here. Guy shows up once bluemoon and gets DQ for some bullshit thing. Only at Lernerville.

Yea the modified winner came out of the infield after victory lane.. Lynch was getting ready to lineup and almost nailed him. Had to spin the car out over the turn 3 hill. A second push off means you go to the tail, Lynch didn't agree, stopped his car and his crew came onto the track up near the turn 4 pit entrance. They let him race though he started 18th, he passed the 2s before the start... then during the red flag on lap 16 they pushed him to the pits he was up to 6th.

[Hot Dog]

Yea the modified winner came out of the infield after victory lane.. Lynch was getting ready to lineup and almost nailed him. Had to spin the car out over the turn 3 hill. A second push off means you go to the tail, Lynch didn't agree, stopped his car and his crew came onto the track up near the turn 4 pit entrance. They let him race though he started 18th, he passed the 2s before the start... then during the red flag on lap 16 they pushed him to the pits he was up to 6th.

I always beat the Lernerville drum and stick up for them, but if that's true, they screwed up. The whole situation could have been avoided by just doing the right thing in the first place. It's a matter of safety.

Edited by Hot Dog, 31 August 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[DegenerationX]

from what I just found out. Ed was DQ. you are only allowed to be pushed off 3 times. and a modified pulled out of infield and Ed spun it out. and that started all the bullshit. His crew was not happy. Hope someone else chimes in here. Guy shows up once bluemoon and gets DQ for some bullshit thing. Only at Lernerville.

How this should read is, the guy shows up once in a blue moon and expects to circumvent the rules as if he runs the joint! It actually all started when they thought they didn't have to start 10th due to winning the feature the last time he ran one. He ran a heat race and scratched from the feature a few weeks ago and thus never started 10th after winning his feature. Then his crew walked onto the track en mass during yellow flag conditions after the Williamson issue and he was sent to the tail. Then the old man tried to go after Smokey, and let's not pretend this is the first time he has gone after a track official . . . challenger?! It's not "only at Lernerville" this isn't a Lernerville issue, it's a Lynch issue. A rule was violated and the management team enforced it. No the initial redraw was not their fault and yes the incident with Williamson was a random freak occurrence, (or was it karma?), but a crew plain and simply cannot walk onto the race track under caution to check out a race car for damage unless it's an open red flag. Ed could have pulled into the work zone to have his crew look over the car. And yes he probably would have been sent to the tail for doing so, but you can't have your cake and eat it too! Due to the unique circumstances, an exception could have been made for him to take his original starting spot despite the caution and wanting to have the car checked out, but no matter who you are, you can't take justice into your own hands, do things your own way and expect to be allowed to do so without repercussions. I don't think they were out of line for being frustrated by the string of events, but there are better ways to handle your frustration!

[LernervillePRDirector]

It was kind of weird to watch. After the mod feature, Mat Williamson was in the infield with some officials. After a moment or two, Mat climbed out and helped take the hood off. I'm not sure if it's a procedural thing for track champs to go through one final tech or not, either way I'm not sure why it wasn't done back in the tech area or the hauler. Anyhow, as others have said, Mat pulled out to go back to the pits after he was done with whatever the officials needed to see and Ed spun to avoid a collision. Looked like there should have been some better communication on the track, perhaps we wouldn't be talking about it today. Either that or Mat just took off with no regard for a sprint that could have hit him which I doubt since nobody I know of would care to take that chance with their equipment.

[83fan]

Yea the modified winner came out of the infield after victory lane.. Lynch was getting ready to lineup and almost nailed him. Had to spin the car out over the turn 3 hill. A second push off means you go to the tail, Lynch didn't agree, stopped his car and his crew came onto the track up near the turn 4 pit entrance. They let him race though he started 18th, he passed the 2s before the start... then during the red flag on lap 16 they pushed him to the pits he was up to 6th.

first of all ed had know problem going to the tail of the field, did you talk to the family i did, and the crew was told they could run out and check the car before race started.

[WhatWouldFlinnerDo?]

first of all ed had know problem going to the tail of the field, did you talk to the family i did, and the crew was told they could run out and check the car before race started.

Then why did he ride back up to the fifth row and ignore calls on the raceiver to go to the tail?

[Skull]

I've been a fan of the both Sr. and Jr. for years. But, lets face it, Jr. has developed a "this place can't survive without me" attitude, even though he isn't the driver he used to be, not that being a great driver is any excuse for such behavior. I still enjoy watching the guy drive, even though I lost a good deal of respect for him over the Goodyear tire thing. As far as Senior taking a swing at Smokey, the only thing I'm sorry about is that he didn't knock that arrogant prick on his ass. Smokey has always been a total and complete jerkoff. I'm happy the track has tightened up on some of these issues, but two things Friday pissed me off. The decision to send Mike Pegher to the back after he got in to Garvin, Jr. was bullshit. Garvin, Jr. checked up for a lapped car, and Mike was charging right behind him. How the hell was he supposed to avoid any contact? Same thing in the Sportsman feature. A.J. Flick turned Mark Sanders and gets sent to the tail. The #32 had to check up. The #2 was coming with a full head of steam. It happens, and neither Flick or Pegher have a reputation for dumping people. That's why they should probably have a couple of former drivers making those decisions. When someone gets turned, it isn't always intentional.

[DumbCrapHater]

[quote name='DegenerationX' date='Aug 31 2013, 01:52 PM' post='375151']
How this should read is, the guy shows up once in a blue moon and expects to circumvent the rules as if he runs the joint! It actually all started when they thought they didn't have to start 10th due to winning the feature the last time he ran one. He ran a heat race and scratched from the feature a few weeks ago and thus never started 10th after winning his feature. Then his crew walked onto the track en mass during yellow flag conditions after the Williamson issue and he was sent to the tail. Then the old man tried to go after Smokey, and let's not pretend this is the first time he has gone after a track official . . . challenger?! It's not "only at Lernerville" this isn't a Lernerville issue, it's a Lynch issue. A rule was violated and the management team enforced it. No the initial redraw was not their fault and yes the incident with Williamson was a random freak occurrence, (or was it karma?), but a crew plain and simply cannot walk onto the race track under caution to check out a race car for damage unless it's an open red flag. Ed could have pulled into the work zone to have his crew look over the car. And yes he probably would have been sent to the tail for doing so, but you can't have your cake and eat it too! Due to the unique circumstances, an exception could have been made for him to take his original starting spot despite the caution and wanting to have the car checked out, but no matter who you are, you can't take justice into your own hands, do things your own way and expect to be allowed to do so without repercussions. I don't think they were out of line for being frustrated by the string of events, but there are better ways to handle your frustration!
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Well put and THANK YOU!!!!

[WhatWouldFlinnerDo?]

I've been a fan of the both Sr. and Jr. for years. But, lets face it, Jr. has developed a "this place can't survive without me" attitude, even though he isn't the driver he used to be, not that being a great driver is any excuse for such behavior.

I still enjoy watching the guy drive, even though I lost a good deal of respect for him over the Goodyear tire thing.

As far as Senior taking a swing at Smokey, the only thing I'm sorry about is that he didn't knock that arrogant prick on his ass. Smokey has always been a total and complete jerkoff.

I'm happy the track has tightened up on some of these issues, but two things Friday pissed me off. The decision to send Mike Pegher to the back after he got in to Garvin, Jr. was bullshit. Garvin, Jr. checked up for a lapped car, and Mike was charging right behind him. How the hell was he supposed to avoid any contact? Same thing in the Sportsman feature. A.J. Flick turned Mark Sanders and gets sent to the tail. The #32 had to check up. The #2 was coming with a full head of steam. It happens, and neither Flick or Pegher have a reputation for dumping people. That's why they should probably have a couple of former drivers making those decisions. When someone gets turned, it isn't always intentional.

I tend to agree about Pegher & Flick getting screwed, but where do you draw the line on deciphering intent of the driver that caused the spin? I'd much rather have them be decisive and send a driver to the tail, than to be wishy-washy/protecting the golden boy(s) like what happened at Marion Center in the FASTcraps last weekend.

[WhatWouldFlinnerDo?]

I've been a fan of the both Sr. and Jr. for years. But, lets face it, Jr. has developed a "this place can't survive without me" attitude, even though he isn't the driver he used to be, not that being a great driver is any excuse for such behavior.

+1

[Skull]

I tend to agree about Pegher & Flick getting screwed, but where do you draw the line on deciphering intent of the driver that caused the spin? I'd much rather have them be decisive and send a driver to the tail, than to be wishy-washy/protecting the golden boy(s) like what happened at Marion Center in the FASTcraps last weekend.

I see what you're saying. Some people wanted to hang Doug Eck for the Ron Davies accident a couple of weeks ago, even though the only thing Eck did was being in the wrong place at the wrong time. People wanted to blame him mostly because of his reputation, much like it was with Matt Cooke for the Pens. I know they are not easy calls to make and I suppose when officials have to try to factor in things like a drivers past history, it can become more confusing. I guess maybe the best thing is to take your lumps knowing that if the situation is reversed, the driver that turns you gets the same treatment.

[TheLegend]

To count a random modified coming out of the pits in front of a sprint as a spin is beyond absurd clearly that is not the intent of the rule. And YES I Feel that as a former multi time track champion and world or outlaws silver cup winner he deserves special consideration on some bullshit spin rule as ot relates to a car pulling out on front of him

[DumbCrapHater]

I've sat in those stands at Lernerville and watched that track "blow him" for years. Just a couple years ago he got caught up with some lapped junk in a heat race. He wasn't ready for the feature yet so lo and behold....."Ladies and gentlemen, the management here at Lernerville have decided to have our fireworks show before the sprint feature". It was so blatant that they asked him if he appreciated the extra time in victory lane. And NO, there wasn't any weather in the area. Lernerville has done plenty to promote him.

Edited by DumbCrapHater, 01 September 2013 - 10:21 AM.

[Thewildone#23]

I don't know what Williamson was thinking. If Lynch would not have been as good of a driver as he is it would have been bad. There is very few racers who could have missed Williamson if they were in Lynch's spot. If I was him I would have been pissed off to. Then when that happens people cheer. Just because Lynch is a better driver than who ever they want to win gives them no right to cheer. He works just as hard as everyone else to get his car ready.

[DumbCrapHater]

They cheer because they're sick and tired of having Lernerville favorite him. And that is worth a standing ovation!