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#1 to fast

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 03:29 PM

i was wondering why they are waiting till march to have it. just asking for your input, when do you think it should be???? im thinking november sometime because the racing season is just over and everybody is taking it easy. if you wait till march im thinking people will be busy with the upcoming season getting there cars ready. also the point fund money would be nice when the people need it most, if you give them the money in november they can buy new or update used parts in march what does it go for???? cars should be ready by then just want your opinion, not trying to start anything so bashers stay away thanks scott see you next year at AMP

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#2 dylchris

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:29 PM

where did you hear March, I agree, the money could be best used during the off season when you are rebuilding.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:32 PM

i came from the owner


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:44 PM

I can not believe this.Jeff and America planned this for March for alot of reasons.First of all they thought that with all the fighting that went on this year between the drivers and crews that a cooling down period was needed.Second of all there is a lot of planning going into this banquet and thought that doing it in March rather than in October or November was more important.Those two months is when they are planning on removing the gaurdrail in turn two and the backstretch.They are bringing in 500 truck loads of fill to widen turns one and two.They are increasing the banking in one and two to match Three and four.They are removing all the track lights and relocating them plus adding 12 more Musco lights.They are drilling under the track for drainage to try and improve the water drainage.That will take all of October and November to get this work done.We never thought that drivers would be upset knowing all that we are planning is with them in mine.My suggestion would be use your money that you would start the season to get your car ready and use your point fund money to start the season.Remember there are only 3 guys doing all this work with some friends coming in from New Jersey to help out on the weekends.We are sorry that you are upset but everyone has an idea about how to run a racetrack.My suggestion would be to call the owners of the track to complain rather than bicthing on here.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:47 PM

Typical


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

i am not bitching, just wanted to know what the other racers thought of this. nobody ever said anything about the work being done to improve the track this is the 10th of september, if you plan it for the end of november thats 2 and a half months to plan it not trying to start a fight with anybody, just wanted a racers opinion thanks scott by the way i will be racing there next year


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 08:43 PM

They are bringing in 500 truck loads of fill to widen turns one and two.They are increasing the banking in one and two to match Three and four.

how are you going to widen it? because on the back stretch is a drop off correct? and then you have the hill/grandstands on the front....not bashing...just curious


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:04 PM

how are you going to widen it? because on the back stretch is a drop off correct? and then you have the hill/grandstands on the front....not bashing...just curious

Drop off correct ? What do you think the 500 loads of fill are for, its not for filling in the valley behind the pits. :blink:


Scott as 4 the point $ think it is awesome Jeff even set that up I know it kind of makes it tight in march, butt he is doing this with all teams in mind for moving into the future and keeping the track alive. JMO


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

I can not believe this.Jeff and America planned this for March for alot of reasons.First of all they thought that with all the fighting that went on this year between the drivers and crews that a cooling down period was needed.Second of all there is a lot of planning going into this banquet and thought that doing it in March rather than in October or November was more important.Those two months is when they are planning on removing the gaurdrail in turn two and the backstretch.They are bringing in 500 truck loads of fill to widen turns one and two.They are increasing the banking in one and two to match Three and four.They are removing all the track lights and relocating them plus adding 12 more Musco lights.They are drilling under the track for drainage to try and improve the water drainage.That will take all of October and November to get this work done.We never thought that drivers would be upset knowing all that we are planning is with them in mine.My suggestion would be use your money that you would start the season to get your car ready and use your point fund money to start the season.Remember there are only 3 guys doing all this work with some friends coming in from New Jersey to help out on the weekends.We are sorry that you are upset but everyone has an idea about how to run a racetrack.My suggestion would be to call the owners of the track to complain rather than bicthing on here.

hey chuck. pr number 1 rule- never debate anyone on a message board. never gets you anywhere. :rolleyes:


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:54 PM

Drop off correct ? What do you think the 500 loads of fill are for, its not for filling in the valley behind the pits. :blink:


Scott as 4 the point $ think it is awesome Jeff even set that up I know it kind of makes it tight in march, butt he is doing this with all teams in mind for moving into the future and keeping the track alive. JMO

are they planning on filling in the pond to then? because that would be weird shooting it out and then swerving it right back in to avoid the pond...like i said im just curious


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:06 PM

Go get a shovel give Jeff a hand then you will know.


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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:51 PM

Go get a shovel give Jeff a hand then you will know.

typical racestud...ask serious questions and people act like a-holes


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 03:00 AM

they are already piling dirt in the pits along the pond and from what i HEARD they are going to fill in the pond and move all the guide rails and and move the flagstand and cut into the hill it should be a whole different animal next year . and by the way that is a nice looking car scott!!

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 04:21 AM

WOW WOW WOW !!!! People really take bitching to a new Level !! Having banquets after the first of the year is pretty standard for race tracks . Also this point fund money you say you need to rebuild your car .... How much are you expecting ???! I can't possibly see how a small track like that in the middle of no where is paying any more than a few hundred dollars at the very most to the champions !!! The dude is actually trying to improve the track and worthless toss offs like sunhoney bash him when she doesn't even have a car !! Sunhoney smoking every modifieds drivers hammer you see doesn't make your opinion any more relevant than any other mouth breathing smode booth operators opinion . Be happy the track is open and the guy is working to improve it


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:19 AM

Are you not the one that was whining moaning and groaning about a $100.00 show up and $150.00 tow fee for months?

Now no one was bit--- about anything, the first post asked a question? not complaining or otherwise, I responded not complaining or otherwise, then, the response comes out about the track work etc etc etc.

landowner improvements are not the responsibiloity of the persons using the establishment whether it be a restaurant or a speedway. The users of the facility contibuted to that point fund all season, through pit fees, fuel purchases, 50-50 tickets etc. any yes it is a very attractive point fund. It is more than your few hundred bucks assumption.

There are race teams that will use the point money to maintain or advance their race program; they do not have $80,000.00 and open resources to prepare for the start of the 2014 season.

WOW WOW WOW !!!! People really take bitching to a new
Level !! Having banquets after the first of the year is pretty standard for race tracks . Also this point fund money you say you need to rebuild your car .... How much are you expecting ???! I can't possibly see how a small track like that in the middle of no where is paying any more than a few hundred dollars at the very most to the champions !!! The dude is actually trying to improve the track and worthless toss offs like sunhoney bash him when she doesn't even have a car !! Sunhoney smoking every modifieds drivers hammer you see doesn't make your opinion any more relevant than any other mouth breathing smode booth operators opinion . Be happy the track is open and the guy is working to improve it


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:32 AM

Are you not the one that was whining moaning and groaning about a $100.00 show up and $150.00 tow fee for months?

Now no one was bit--- about anything, the first post asked a question? not complaining or otherwise, I responded not complaining or otherwise, then, the response comes out about the track work etc etc etc.

landowner improvements are not the responsibiloity of the persons using the establishment whether it be a restaurant or a speedway. The users of the facility contibuted to that point fund all season, through pit fees, fuel purchases, 50-50 tickets etc. any yes it is a very attractive point fund. It is more than your few hundred bucks assumption.

There are race teams that will use the point money to maintain or advance their race program; they do not have $80,000.00 and open resources to prepare for the start of the 2014 season.

Many tracks pay nothing for a point fund . So they should be commended for that . You totally misunderstood what I was complaining about. Tyler county charged us 65.00 each for pit passes , canceled the event and kept the money !!! And to add insult to injury they didnt pay me the 250 they rightfully owed me from the first night of the event !! So I paid for pit passes to a race that never happened and wasn't paid what they owed for a race that did happen. And you are comparing that to a track owner making you wait a few months for point fund money that he isn't even obliagted to give you ??? I'm sorry but those are 2 completely seperate issues


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:06 AM

It is an obligation; the division sponsor contract and his very own words explained how the point fund was going to be generated. Every racer that competed in 80 percent of their events are eligible; and I am not complaining. I simply answered a persons post requesting others opinions. I paid $30.00 per pitpass every night for the racing program at AMP as did every other attendee, never complained once about the cost. So whether you feel entitled to show up money or pit pass reimbursement or tow fees is no different.

Again, no one was complaining, it was a simple question asked. If you accept a payment or fee under the premise both written and verbalised, for a certain purpose, then it is obligated.



Many tracks pay nothing for a point fund . So they should be commended for that . You totally misunderstood what I was complaining about. Tyler county charged us 65.00 each for pit passes , canceled the event and kept the money !!! And to add insult to injury they didnt pay me the 250 they rightfully owed me from the first night of the event !! So I paid for pit passes to a race that never happened and wasn't paid what they owed for a race that did happen. And you are comparing that to a track owner making you wait a few months for point fund money that he isn't even obliagted to give you ??? I'm sorry but those are 2 completely seperate issues




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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:23 AM

Lernerville and PPMS have their banquets in March. Port Royal does their's in February and so does Sharon I believe.


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:05 PM

WOW WOW WOW !!!! People really take bitching to a new
Level !! Having banquets after the first of the year is pretty standard for race tracks . Also this point fund money you say you need to rebuild your car .... How much are you expecting ???! I can't possibly see how a small track like that in the middle of no where is paying any more than a few hundred dollars at the very most to the champions !!! The dude is actually trying to improve the track and worthless toss offs like sunhoney bash him when she doesn't even have a car !! Sunhoney smoking every modifieds drivers hammer you see doesn't make your opinion any more relevant than any other mouth breathing smode booth operators opinion . Be happy the track is open and the guy is working to improve it

im seriously getting sick and freaking tired of your bullshit!! i asked a simple question of how they were going to re-do the track so get the hell out of here if you don't like it you immature asshole...go back to being a track filler at ppms and leave me the hell alone...


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Posted 11 September 2013 - 01:11 PM

im seriously getting sick and freaking tired of your bullshit!! i asked a simple question of how they were going to re-do the track so get the hell out of here if you don't like it you immature asshole...go back to being a track filler at ppms and leave me the hell alone...

Sorry but I would rather race at ppms than smoke yokes or race at amp





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