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#1 flash49

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 09:54 PM

There were twenty Sprint cars tonight.  Awesome performance by A.J. Flick, he started fourth, went backwards a bit, and came roaring back to finish fourth with a cool pass on Brandon Spithaler in turn one with a few laps remaining. The Sprints were flying, but Holtgraver had an easy time winning. I believe Jack Sodeman Jr. broke the track record in winning his heat race, in the 15 second range, for an average speed of 144 mph. 

 

1.     Danny Holtgraver (10)

2.     Carl Bowser (10)

3.     Danny Smith (4)

4.     A.J. Flick (2)

5.     Brandon Spithaler (22)

6.     Jack Sodeman Jr. (23)

7.     Brandon Matus (13)

8.     Ralph Spithaler (56)

9.     Adam Kekich (5)

10.   Lance Moss (23)

 

Andrew Wylie (84) beat Nico Dabecco (F1) by .045 of a second to win the Crate feature, followed by Tim Shaffer.  Daryl Charlier was in a scary looking accident on the first lap of the feature, when he got into the big tire near the pit entrance, but apparently was uninjured.  There were 18 Crates tonight.   Because it was a school night for me, I did not stay for the Late Model feature.   Only 10 Lates tonight. 


Edited by flash49, 30 June 2014 - 07:31 PM.




 

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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:00 PM

There were twenty Sprint cars tonight.  Awesome performance by A.J. Flick, he started fourth, went backwards a bit, and came roaring back to finish fourth with a cool pass on Brandon Spithaler in turn one with a few laps remaining. The Sprints were flying, but Holtgraver had an easy time winning. I believe Jack Sodeman Jr. broke the track record in winning his heat race, in the 15 second range, for an average speed of 144 mph. 

 

1.     Danny Holtgraver (10)

2.     Carl Bowser (10)

3.     Danny Smith (4)

4.     A.J. Flick (2)

5.     Brandon Spithaler (22)

6.     Jack Sodeman Jr. (23)

7.     Brandon Matus (13)

8.     Ralph Spithaler (56)

9.     Adam Kekich (5)

10.   Lance Moss (23)

 

Andrew Wylie (84) beat Nico Dabecco (F1) by .45 of a second to win the Crate feature, followed by Tim Shaffer.  Daryl Charlier was in a scary looking accident on the first lap of the feature, when he got into the big tire near the pit entrance, but apparently was uninjured.  There were 18 Crates tonight.   Because it was a school night for me, I did not stay for the Late Model feature.   Only 10 Lates tonight. 

 

 

daryl took a hard hit but walked away. dan the greek was standing back there and got injured hope he will be ok, ed feree won latex with alex second and dave burdock third. 


Edited by CLEETUS INC, 29 June 2014 - 11:13 PM.



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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:47 PM

Nice win Danny ! The pass on the bottom in 4 was sweet ! Nice run for  Shaffer in his Crate ! Nice run Nick ! Jake you was hangin it out dere  ! Way To Go Ed Feree ! last win in 2002 .. and I believe he was leading a feature by a Straightaway that year and crashed with a lapped car  ! WTG ! Hope all the wrecked cars can be fixed , that was a hard one Daryl and we hope the guy who caught the stuff !! is ok ! One groove  for a while and then Bryan pulled out that 8 wheel track roller. It was good racin all night




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Posted 29 June 2014 - 10:52 PM

Even thought there were only 10 cars,and 8 started the feature, it was a pretty good LM feature. Dave Murdick led most of it, and was holding of Jimmy Stephens. Ed Ferree was third and seemed to get faster as the race wore on, and got by Stephens, and then Murdick. Alex Ferree ran 5-6 most of the race then got by Ben Miley and John Mollick, and really closed the gap the last couple laps and got by both Stephens and Murdick comming for the checker. It was Ed Ferree, Alex Ferree, Dave Murdick, Jim Stephens, Ben Miley, John Mollick, Derek Stefanick and Tom Bateman. Bill Yohe and Colton Flinner did not start, Colton crashed while leading his heat, (I think a tire or something in the suspension broke, as he went right into the turn one wall. Jeff Broniszewski won the Sportsman, the #36 the stocks and the #89 in the Young Guns.




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Posted 30 June 2014 - 08:50 AM

There were twenty Sprint cars tonight.  Awesome performance by A.J. Flick, he started fourth, went backwards a bit, and came roaring back to finish fourth with a cool pass on Brandon Spithaler in turn one with a few laps remaining. The Sprints were flying, but Holtgraver had an easy time winning. I believe Jack Sodeman Jr. broke the track record in winning his heat race, in the 15 second range, for an average speed of 144 mph. 
 
1.     Danny Holtgraver (10)
2.     Carl Bowser (10)
3.     Danny Smith (4)
4.     A.J. Flick (2)
5.     Brandon Spithaler (22)
6.     Jack Sodeman Jr. (23)
7.     Brandon Matus (13)
8.     Ralph Spithaler (56)
9.     Adam Kekich (5)
10.   Lance Moss (23)
 
Andrew Wylie (84) beat Nico Dabecco (F1) by .45 of a second to win the Crate feature, followed by Tim Shaffer.  Daryl Charlier was in a scary looking accident on the first lap of the feature, when he got into the big tire near the pit entrance, but apparently was uninjured.  There were 18 Crates tonight.   Because it was a school night for me, I did not stay for the Late Model feature.   Only 10 Lates tonight.

There were twenty Sprint cars tonight.  Awesome performance by A.J. Flick, he started fourth, went backwards a bit, and came roaring back to finish fourth with a cool pass on Brandon Spithaler in turn one with a few laps remaining. The Sprints were flying, but Holtgraver had an easy time winning. I believe Jack Sodeman Jr. broke the track record in winning his heat race, in the 15 second range, for an average speed of 144 mph. 
 
1.     Danny Holtgraver (10)
2.     Carl Bowser (10)
3.     Danny Smith (4)
4.     A.J. Flick (2)
5.     Brandon Spithaler (22)
6.     Jack Sodeman Jr. (23)
7.     Brandon Matus (13)
8.     Ralph Spithaler (56)
9.     Adam Kekich (5)
10.   Lance Moss (23)
 
Andrew Wylie (84) beat Nico Dabecco (F1) by .45 of a second to win the Crate feature, followed by Tim Shaffer.  Daryl Charlier was in a scary looking accident on the first lap of the feature, when he got into the big tire near the pit entrance, but apparently was uninjured.  There were 18 Crates tonight.   Because it was a school night for me, I did not stay for the Late Model feature.   Only 10 Lates tonight.




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Posted 30 June 2014 - 08:51 AM

Why is it that ppms for the most part only get the same 10 slm every week?


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

Why is it that ppms for the most part only get the same 10 slm every week?


I think the perception is that the place is all motor and that scares some teams off.

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 09:40 AM

Yet a spec motor took the lead and drove away


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 09:45 AM

Yet a spec motor took the lead and drove away


Exactly, and that happens fairly often out there. That's why I said the perception.

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 03:30 PM

Actually, the spec motors win rather infrequently at PPMS these days, because not many drivers still use them.   I think Ben Miley, Ed Feree, and Derek Stefanick (Geisler has both) are the only drivers who still have one.   PPMS usually has around 15 Late Models per week, not ten.  Three of the regulars were at the Firecracker all weekend (Jared Miley, Pegher Jr/Geisler, and Tony Musolino), no Steve Baker or Brandon Burgoon or Mike Johnson last night.  The field is usually pretty stout, even though not large.




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Posted 30 June 2014 - 03:53 PM

Really these are not the same spec motors that were ran a few years ago. Those were 355 where now they are now allowed Chevy 402s and Ed Ferree has a Chevy aluminum 4.L motor from the factory. Also they are allowed softer tires and a weight break and a bigger spoiler and a front spoiler. This is one of the reasons they are not getting many cars, the favoritism towards these motors. Remember this is a business and if the track can restrict what engine you can run, they can also pay lower purses. You know "this is to help the racers". But in reality it only hurts the racers in the long run. Dont do me any favors by trying to control costs when it will cost more.




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Posted 30 June 2014 - 05:24 PM

Up until a couple of years ago the specs were 360 motors. Then they added a second bigger spec motir to their rules. Did any other track do that? What was their reason? Probably Ben or Jared had a motir this size or Broughers had one to sell, so they changed the rules to fit their personal agenda. I hate going to that place because their apparent outright favoritism to their own race teams and brothers customers. You can't run a race track fairly with conflicts of interest like that. That's a reason few teams show up there. Not the spec motors but changing rules to their benefit. Let's not forget the Pittsburghet fiasco two years ago when they tried to rig the race to give Jared the money.

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Posted 30 June 2014 - 05:26 PM

Your assumption is not supported by the facts.  Ed Ferree is the first car to win a feature this year at PPMS with a spec motor.  The open motors have been cleaning up and probably will continue to do so, since most of the top runners there have them.  Besides, the low car counts are not confined to PPMS.   Bedford had 12 Supers at their last regular show, Roaring Knob had 12 and 9 Super for their last two regular shows, and Marion Center had 12 Supers last weekend, and had 9 several weeks ago.  


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 06:04 PM

All late models (open and spec) run on the same tires.

There is no "softer" tire for spec motor cars. 

All of the advantages given to spec and crate(CT525) motored cars are aero advantageous (deck height/spillboard/s,spolier/sideboard size) and weight break,increased engine setback..




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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:36 AM

6 late models at Tyler County on Saturday night.




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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:26 PM

Butt beak they must have changed that rule between the winter and now. They need to just put everyone on 1425's to take juicing out of the equation


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Posted 01 July 2014 - 07:43 PM

The Legend is correct, the Spec motors have had that option on 1425's all season.




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Posted 01 July 2014 - 09:33 PM

I didn't know that was an option, I stand corrected. B)




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Posted 01 July 2014 - 10:05 PM

The Legend, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:26 PM, said:

Butt beak they must have changed that rule between the winter and now. They need to just put everyone on 1425's to take juicing out of the equation



It would be nice, but it's not going to take juicing out of the equation. The only thing that will take juicing out of the equation is strict testing and ridiculously harsh punishment, neither of which is ever going to happen because it takes dollars out of promoters' pockets. Lots of them.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 04:53 AM

The biggest problem with 1600's is they don't like to fire on starts and restarts and the 1425's don't have that issue.





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