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[animalgfx]

Found this link on Facebook... I think there's a bunch of us who should read it..

http://www.thedrc.ne...ple-who-love-it

[jmmr]

I suppose that's one way to look at it. if it were only half that simple.the Internet for many is a great way- hell the only way to let others know what's going on at a track. And it is another check to hold the promoter accountable- if you think they don't read the sites you are crazy. Here's the problem-1. The days of teams being allowed to do the only thing they should be doing ( showing up and competing) are over. Those who run at the track need to be very involved w the track- promoting/supporting/pushing the issues. It involves time and energy which is limited for all of us and also is dependent on a promoter that doesn't think they know everything and welcomes the involvement. This is a tall order although not impossible. This is a site primarily FOR racers- if you don't like what a guy posts- stop reading it. Will any good come from it I don't know- but it in itself is no cause of damage to racing at all. Saying nothing and/or having no outlet to do so is a far bigger detriment. It's what our country is founded on- freedom of speech.

[jmmr]

By the way - keep an eye on Motordrome- the change will not come quickly but I think if the promoter keeps on his path and follows through w all his plans... Well good things will come. I've made alot of predictions over the years here and have been pretty accurate( I'm no genius- just observant!). It will not be without growing pains but I really think it will show in the near future.

[The Legend]

The problem with racing is that cost , having kids , getting married , buying houses , losing interest and finding other hobbies has driven out a bunch of racers and owners and there's no one to replace them. At 1 time there was 9 cars within a mile of me and I'm the only one left

[NotToday]

Nobody wants to put out the effort!! LAZY, LAZY......They want to buy everything from a catolog or chassis builder (thus they think it's expensive to race). Prioites as Legend mentioned then effort. Effort Effort AKA Work. NO ONE WILL GIVE YOU ANYTHING! Many people quit racing when Dad's money runs out. Now there's no one left to fill the spot, just getting worse.

[The Legend]

The guys today can barely hammer out a smashed quarter panel let alone building their own stuff lol

[NotToday]

Yeah, They shouldn't have to work that hard, just to race.

[94.3-RADRACER]

this generation coming up, lol.......if they I-pad don't fix it, it ain't getting fixed.........

[Tim W]

Jim, thanks for posting this.. A lot of truth in that article. Racing's problems also run much deeper.. most kids these days have little interest in the car culture in general or racing in particular. How many young racers do you see at the local tracks? And how many of them are first generation racers? We were brought up in an era before I-pads, 200 cable channels, snapchat and instagram, we played outside.. bicycles led to motorcycles then to cars, and for many of us race cars. Times have changed, we must try and grow our sport.. tearing it down by bitching and whining anonymously on various forms of social does just the opposite. Just my two cents, see you at the track!

[tdietz10]

Cost way to much to build and maintain a car, cost of a car vs the purse money is way to far apart and unfortunately that is almost impossible to fix

[Racer17L]

Legend, I agree with your statement above.  My Dad used to say back in his day, every garage had a race car in it, or was part of a crew.  We used to have 3-4 down our garage complex alone.  Now I'm the only one left.

 

I remember thinking, man emods are getting out of hand from 2009-2011, I just can't compete anymore against these new Shaw chassis, Yates Motors, etc.  Now, I'm spending even more just to race Sportsman!  Same open motors, but with steel heads, LM tires versus the RC4's, same shocks, now they're allowing open carbs, it's crazy!  And I had a 2000 Downey car given to me, we clipped it IN HOUSE and put it together ourselves to save money!

[clwillis]

The answer is have no purse at all. See who the real racers are. I go to a kart track that is just a bunch of friends racing each other for fun. There is no purse, no prize, just fun. Now as soon as you throw in a bag of potato chips everyone wants them. It's been this way for a 100 years and always will be. If you have a prize someone would do anything in thier power to get it. Even if it's a bag of chips.

[jmmr]

The 'no purse' idea had been disproven- there are plenty of classes out of hand that have no purse. When I learned what guys are spending on dirt street stocks I couldn't believe it- honestly asphalt is almost half the price. Even on asphalt the costs are out of hand- better tech and strict rules- 'one and done' w violators. Moving up has been stagnant for years now.

[BooYah!]

As with any sport the integrity of the sport is compromised by its participants.  Spectators, drivers, officials and all have skin in the game.  When a tight ship is not being ran and it's obvious then it loses the attention of its participants and spectators.

AMP continues to operate with blinder on..........by allowing a certain few teams to breaks rules while being overly critical of others.   Examples...driver substitutes and awarding of points.  This past week there was pure stock car that had a substitute driver and the track was oblivious to this, or didn't care enough to look.  In the past it is suspect that street stock cars were running three link suspensions and traction control and this was not investigated.

 

Before you can successfully market and sale a product you need to control the quality of the services you are providing or they will go elsewhere for entertainment.

[BooYah!]

Looks like this Topic has now come full circle.....................    Social Media at it's best.

[Skull]

All I know is, support the tracks and divisions that you enjoy, however you can, whenever you can and as much as you can. Next week or next year, you never know, your or my favorite track could be gone. Enjoy it while it's here. Support them and encourage others to do the same. It's the only way these places will survive.

[RocketRide]

I have been racing latemodels for 15 years now, and i would of been out of it years ago if it werent for my hard work and the ability to do everything myself, i mean everything,from putting engines together to rebuilding transmissions and rearends, i have tried to help others out but unless you have a shingle that says your an engine builder they wont let you help, everyone wants to pay a high dollar shop i guess, o well i guess there racing budget will eventually expire, have seen it already.

[race ace]

i am guessing that this is a shot at me and since   i don't get on here as much as i once did i can respond to it now , as the legend put it if you think any one porson getting on the internet badmouthing a track puts them out of business then you need to slam your schming in a steel door , or something like that . it wont take anyone bitching about a class to put it out of business the track owners are doing a fine job of this themselves by changing rules to try and get car counts up and leaving the guys who went to the rules meeting out in the cold .it seems to me that one guy on here had a bone about a guy at Hummingbird running a 3 link suspension and him and another racer did everything they could like going to louie and the tech man and even getting on racestud and bitching about said suspension if i remember right (and i think i do) this racer said the 3 link driver had to over drive this car into the corner to make it work and that 3 link suspensions had no place in street stock classe .now i have taken a few trips into the wall since then but i think i remember this correctly .so i ask you if three link suspensions and j bars were no good for the street stock class then why are these cars running today doing this class any good .not fighting with anyone here just want you to remember sometimes the pot does call the kettle black.open the rules up a little bit on the purestock class like let guys run a 10 inch rim and a 10 inch tire and i guarantee the class will gain cars  maybe make the cars that have the wide rims add 200 pounds .like i said before the purestock class is almost like the old street stocks just a few more tweaks and you have a winner.but dont do it now wait until next season or run little guys national   rules in these  two classes would even things up.good racing to you all.

[The Legend]

Race ace so if tracks make cadets even more like late models all of the reason I said for declining car and fan counts will magically go away ???

[rsadiedog]

So the street stocks are getting out of hand but you want to open up the pure stock rules?