Where was Danny Holtgraver last night with ASCOC? Didn't run with the All-Stars or the Outlaws at the Grove. Tim Shaffer ran with the WoO. Something definetely going on with the both of them absent from a ASCOC sanctioned race.
Where was Holtgraver last night?
Started by jferruchie, Jul 20 2014 06:17 AM
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#1
Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:17 AM
#2
Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:26 AM
Kemenah was at fremont
#3
Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:08 AM
Maybe they finally got tired of not getting what they have been promised.
#4
Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:41 AM
From the looks of vague posts on twitter, the All Star regulars were staging some sort of protest of the western swing.
#5
Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:41 AM
I heard something to this effect from someone in the know Tuesday night after the race at Lernerville. Seems there are some troubles brewing and maybe some big changes ahead!! Time will tell!!
Walt
#6
Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:55 AM
I hear sun honey is going to take over the series and make it a modified series
#7
Posted 20 July 2014 - 01:28 PM
Shaffer didn't go with all stars either! Maybe after the flip Tuesday he needed time to regroup!
(TEAM 14g/CAMPING-Paul Duratz)
#8
Posted 20 July 2014 - 02:42 PM
Shaffer was at Williams Grove-but qualified poorly-was listed as last in his heat did not show in the B Main results. Very few travelers at Wilmot-but-they still had 38 cars.410's alive and well in Wisconsin. Huset's tonight-some tough customers there. At Wayne County on the 5th there was some grumbling from some All Star regulars too! Nothing I can quote cause you hear so much bad about the All Stars all the time!
#9
Posted 20 July 2014 - 03:20 PM
What are some of these rumors ??
#10
Posted 20 July 2014 - 03:49 PM
The All Stars has been a great series, but lately they just have not been getting it done. I hope someone or something happens to this series to make it the series it once was. I can remember when going to an All Star show ment something. Lets all hope that this series gets a boost so going to a All Star show is seeing a top of the line sprint car show again!
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#11
Posted 20 July 2014 - 05:20 PM
There are a lot of drivers rethinking running the series!The All Stars has been a great series, but lately they just have not been getting it done. I hope someone or something happens to this series to make it the series it once was. I can remember when going to an All Star show ment something. Lets all hope that this series gets a boost so going to a All Star show is seeing a top of the line sprint car show again!
(TEAM 14g/CAMPING-Paul Duratz)
#12
Posted 20 July 2014 - 05:43 PM
Andrew Palker-#57 was also absent from Wilmot.
#13
Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:09 PM
Danny's dad Dan, was at Williams Grove in the Kerry Madsen pits.
#14
Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:52 PM
Only Dale is out there I hope Mercer can get out of thier contract
#15
Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:11 PM
There's a little bit of a difference between Mercer and South Dakota. The problem is with the western swing, not the local stuff. These guys can't be on the road for nearly a month (if you count Knoxville) for very little guaranteed money. That's where the disconnect is.
#16
Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:38 PM
They just had the greatest speed week in years. I was at KC to see 62 cars. I understand not wanting to drive to the Dakotas for a race, but to say things ain't great with them and great racing... IMHO is incorrect.
Too bad we don't have the population base to support tracks in western Ohio with payouts like out east. That's their only problem. Man, have you ever driven around the east coast? It's like a giant never ending Pittsburgh.
check this out for the strip of lights out east just east of where the tracks are and then look and find the little bitty lights of the Pittsburgh area.
https://www.google.c...n.html;1137;917
#17
Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:26 AM
The big question is what's the biggest sunhoney has ever had ..... I'm guessing 13.5"
#18
Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:14 AM
The big question is what's the biggest sunhoney has ever had ..... I'm guessing 13.5"
I might have given it to her but I don't recall which one she was.... 
#19
Posted 21 July 2014 - 10:17 AM
ASCOC is struggling to pay last years pts fund. here is the article from May. http://www.pennlive...._heffner_1.html
#20
Posted 21 July 2014 - 01:31 PM
The Heffner deal is well known.What I heard in Ohio was the tow money deal to the Midwest was going under.
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