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#1 sprintsizzler


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 01:08 PM

I have decided to drop the Fantasy League as of now. After what has occurred the past few weeks I dont feel like being any way tied in with this track. Points will be counted up from week 13 and that will be the final season standings.   I have been attending Limaland since the summer of 1976! I love this race track and appreciate all the drivers and teams that have contributed to my entertainment. I spend my hard earned money at this track every week and continue to notice things that happen to drivers year after year for no apparent reason. #1 I am not a huge Randy Hannagan Fan! #2 The occurances that have happened to him since kings royal weekend are absolutely ridiculous.  To all the players that have participated the last 5 years I say THANK YOU! The fantasy League was fun and nice to see other fans enjoy picking their favorite drivers. I am sorry to you that this decision has been made. I will take my Friday night cash and do other things with my family or head to other tracks.  Thank you again for your participation!!!




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Posted 01 August 2014 - 07:33 PM

I would like to put my 2 cents in on this happeneing. I two am not a Hannagan fan by no means but yes he is a very talented man. If you were the owner of a business and one of your customers was at a broadcasted program and he was knocking your business and you as a owner saying your name you would be upset. You would proably tell this person to never set foot in your business again. He was only banned for two NRA shows,if you remember a couple of years back Ron Hammons bad mouthed a NRA official at Eldora to his face not over some thing being broadcast he was banned out of the pits for over a half season. As for what happened last week if I was racing at a track for as long as Randy has I think I would know the rules of that track.Plain and simple he left the track under the green, He should of been Dqed on the spot but Gene trying to restore some respect to Lima gave him a warning. Im hearing it was not Hammons who wanted him Dqed but heard it was some one that is not in the King of the 1/4 mile.I heard some one over ruled Gene F,s ruling and Dqed Randy for the night.We are all hearing sveral stories over what happened. He is a driver who races for a living over some who do it for a hobby,if you remember in the King last year he got a bad start and spun out so it could be restarted and was booed when he won. He has to be costing his owner money by running motors at 9000 rpm versus some who run theirs at 8200 or 8400. He has blown Two motors this year and Dennis hasnt run because he has no motor.Then why should a track do their schedule to fit some one around their schedule. He knows for years Limas banquet you are to be present to collect your winnings.I to am not to happy with some of the way things are being done at Lima but why treat one driver special treat him just like they would any one else.Some say the car counts are down wonder if by any chance look in all three divisions if you take the top 5 in points who are almost winning every week yes some would go to a track where they think they could win.Lima has 3 very tuff divisions to win in,so I would go where i could make a little money to support my racing.Yes maybe some have not been treated right in the past but some one is trying to change that image.Thats my dollars worth on it, I think we need to hear all the things that went on in this I like what Sprinter 75 said they need to get Hammons, Hannagan and gene together and find out who did what.As of now its over with but good luck to those who are still around.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 09:13 PM

My 2 cents, not that it matters - Lima/NRA doesn't pay by team points, they pay by driver points, taking an owner out for 1, 2, 10 races doesn't cost the team a dime at the end of the season.  Teams violating a rule in a DASH, not a heat, not feature, but a DASH, effectively being DQd for the night is ridiculous.  Teams have violated many of the written rules before, such as not stopping at the scales after the heat and the driver has to tag the next event (usually B main, but for some reason not enough cars for a B main anymore and don't tell me it's the economy), team members having physical altercations with no point penalty for the night it happened or 2 race suspension for the team, much more egregious than taking the wrong exit from the track to try to get to work to fix a mechanical issue... but hey, let's enforce the rules differently every week and overrule the guy whose job it is to make those decisions. 


Taking a driver out for 2 races, (3 counting last Friday) does cost money.  NRA champ pays 10k this year you see the difference yet?   


Lima didn't used to schedule sprint shows during Knoxville and local guys could go run without point penalty and I remember seeing many Lima/NRA guys at the 360 nationals in the past -  guarantee if certain drivers were planning to run the Knoxville 360 nationals that Lima wouldn't have a sprint car points paying event that weekend (as they have done in the past, IF 360s ran that weekend, it was a non points race), let alone a NRA points paying race. 


Not being at the banquet = you don't get your money, got it, the racing world revolves around Lima, Ohio, BUT the team earned that money last year and as a compromise asked that their payout be donated to the charity that Hannigan raced in during the banquet (Kick it for Cancer), of course that money was not paid out and was not donated, guess they needed it for the Florida trip or the NASCAR truck sponsorship in Bristol. How cool would it have been to have that donation from the NRA, UNOH & Randy Hannigan during that event in California, wow, that woulda been cool. Terrible that instead of taking advantage of a high caliber racer to bring credibility and notoriety to a series, the choice is made to alienate them and remain an obscure series with a set of rules different than 95% of the 360's in the country run (ASCS).   


Doesn't matter who elevated the non-issue and made it into a big deal, teams have every right to try to gain an advantage any way they can (not something I would have done personally), the people making the decision overturn the decision of the man hired to do the job, did not make the correct one.  Most they should have done was fine them the $ the dash paid, or at the VERY MOST, tag the tail of the next event which would been the heat race, once that time/opportunity passed, it's passed.  Next time someone jumps a start they gonna DQ them for the night?  Someone passes a Red flag in hotlaps, DQ them for the night? Skip the scales, DQ them for the night?  Put hands on a member of another race team, official or spectator..... DQ them for the night, no points?.  


J.R. Stewart is a very fine race driver and Mr. Hammons has great race teams and equipment, it's a shame that the PERCEPTION of Lima's/NRAs actions puts a stain on what the 2014 NRA season will be remembered for by some, would love to see Ron and J.R. Stewart and Mad Max at Knoxville this weekend with the best sprint car drivers and teams in the country, but I understand it's a costly trip and their are points races to run back home in Lima, Ohio.  Sorry for the book, and this opinion is my own.  

Edited by armyduke, 02 August 2014 - 01:12 AM.

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 10:24 PM


Edited by injunear, 02 August 2014 - 10:17 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:10 AM

Yes I know a owner being suspended doesnt effect points,but it was just a comment about dont bite the hand that feeds you with negative comments.I have a feeling before its over this track will end up just like Eldora some weeks of no racing with just special races being held.So its up to the track, the racers and management to try and get along.

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