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#1 longtimeracefan101

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 09:36 AM

I see the scheduled against Mercer Allstars they lost money on the last one. I think it's time to tear up the contract. Also I think it sucks on the new series part to schedule againest mercer. They will want them to join them next year . I'd tell them SEE Ya.



 

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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:04 AM

There's only soo many damn dates in a summer , it's impossible to not schedule against everyone


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:07 AM

Looks like the Sat. at Mercer going to be like a regular show plus maybe Blaney and Haud. Puts Mercer in a tough spot. See what happens in the next couple weeks.




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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:32 AM

Looks like the Sat. at Mercer going to be like a regular show plus maybe Blaney and Haud. Puts Mercer in a tough spot. See what happens in the next couple weeks.

Maybe Mercer can sign a contract with Jupe Pluvias before the race.




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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:34 AM

The guys on the all star tour should probably just keeping bending over and letting guy Webb thunder on their 2 holes !! God forbid they compete against the guy who's screwing them !!


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:38 AM

The guys on the all star tour should probably just keeping bending over and letting guy Webb thunder on their 2 holes !! God forbid they compete against the guy who's screwing them !!

I understand that but like I said the Renegades will be begging Mercer for a date next year.


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 10:53 AM

He clearly made a calculation that he could get away with stringing these guys along with BS story's about their point money . He figured no one was going to do a dam thing about it and clearly he miscalculated


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Posted 03 August 2014 - 02:12 PM

Looking at the combined series All Star points 8 of the 10 in points will be at Atomic. I think there would be a contract that Guy would need to guarantee a certain amount of cars to call his show a All Star show. I think Mercer needs to can Guy and jump on board with the Renegades. Also this would be a great chance for Tri City or Sharon to secure a spot for a  Labor Day weekend sprint car show that was lost many years ago by Sharon, These two tracks have nothing to loose because they have no ties to any organization except for Speedweek. I was planning on being at Mercer but time will tell, right now the Renegades seem to be stronger than the All Stars in just a couple of weeks, must be major problems with the All Stars for this to happen.                                                        




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Posted 03 August 2014 - 03:26 PM

I'll still try and support mercer at least on saterday BUT I think Bill should pray for rain lol.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:31 AM

There's only soo many damn dates in a summer , it's impossible to not schedule against everyone

Then i wouldn't count on adding mercer to the renegade schedule after this big "screw you" they are trying to pull off.....  This will only weaken the renegades before they even get started.   If mercer was smart they would promote this dilema to the central PA teams and show a good purse for a two day event with minimal cars there to get it and with any luck see a decent car count with quality cars. Maybe even an extra $3000 to a PA team (east or west) if they win it.... That should get somes attention...   If they dont promote the hell outta of it i would drop the allstar banner now and pay a regular purse and have the same car count minus a blaney and haud x2..... Looks like mercer might hold the allstars fate more than anyone else at this point. 




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Posted 04 August 2014 - 09:59 AM

What you people aren't understanding, is that the drivers that are running the Renegades DON'T want to race with the All Stars and a majority of them wouldn't have went to Mercer anyways. It has nothing to do with Mercer and everything to do with the All Stars.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:01 AM

Since when does mercer have soo much pull ??? When did mercer become eldora ???


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 10:23 AM

Since when does mercer have soo much pull ??? When did mercer become eldora ???

I would say a majority of people acting like Mercer is the center of the universe, are Mercer regulars and don't understand that there is much more important stuff going on here. They're acting like they scheduled against the Kings Royal, not a 3k to win show at Mercer.


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:03 AM

The point of the renegade series is to challenge the allstars. If they already have the backing from the drivers, why would they NOT schedule against and allstar show? I wish it wasn't Mercer but I do understand why




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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:10 AM

The point of the renegade series is to challenge the allstars. If they already have the backing from the drivers, why would they NOT schedule against and allstar show? I wish it wasn't Mercer but I do understand why

Exactly


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Posted 04 August 2014 - 12:58 PM

who knows maybe mercer is in on it and the renegade has already made plans with mercer.. that would make the most logical scense..  or the renegade just doesnt care if their actions against the allstars collaterally effect a local track as well?  You can say its against the allstars all you want but if the renegade leaves a track they are looking to schedule shows at next year sitting there with a 50,000$ bill to the allstars for a 2 day show and only two all stars show up i would say that's bad business.   Likely the renegade people have this all worked out in advance.  I would say scheduling against the kings royal would be idiotic, scheduling against a track that is good for 3 shows or so a year would just be bad business.  The concept is a great idea to get away from the political bullshit surrounding the allstars... time will tell if it is successful. 




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Posted 07 August 2014 - 01:01 AM

time will tell but how did the ndrl series going up against woo lms work out how did the usa sprints going up against woo sprints work out. I will say the all stars are not what they used to be and guy webb needs to go but time will tell how this all plays out. the race was already planned at atomic they just put the renegade name to it same with the 15,000 to win show in oct.




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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:47 AM

The all stars are definitely not the WoO.





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