21 replies to this topic

[pabandit]

This doesn't make sense at all. We've been told left and right that GM Metric frames are becoming increasingly scarce. You'd think that tracks would allow a more plentiful option, like the Crown Vic frames as a platform for SS/Sportsman chassis.

[team97racing]

Well that makes my decision easier....

[sle21]

You would think tracks would be doing everything possible to get as many cars in the pits as they can. I honestly do not understand all the rule changes with this division the past few years. Crates were competitive with the 358s the way the rules were. I don't have anything against crate engines, but it is only helping the guys who don't want to try engine work and pushing out the guys that do.

[Sparkler]

Its real EASY! Money! The tracks are getting more money from Vicki and GM,ect down the line..Than the track could possibly get by opening up the rules. Bottom line.

[jo73]

They want you to build a car that can race at 1 track THERE'S. Last year with the crate deal, that alone changed the racing to being a draw in your heat race.  This year they want to have you running a GM metric frame. MY only ??? to any of this. Why can someone not just give a explanation of why they make these changes ? The Late model guys it's the tires. That one's easy, point fund money. But the changes they keep ramming down the ENTRY level class makes zero sense !!!   

[old man d]

My question is why someone at Lernerville can"t come on here and give the right answer. 

[tdietz10]

1. Vicki doesn't give money to the track, the track pays Vicki, they don't get any sponsor money for running crate only. (Maybe someone got a incentive to make it crate only I don't know and don't care) the only ppl who benefit from it being crate is are the racers with the giveaways and points money, whether is your thing or not is its own debate. I asked about why this car wasn't allowed to run and was told that it's because it's ford frame and you can't put a GM motor in it. Which I think is complete bs since the motor is mandated. They have a big tech and rules issue that needs fixed and I hope they can resolve it.

[sle21]

Crate engines are a great affordable alternative to anyone who cannot build an engine, theefore it caters to only some racers. I can build a 358 with better parts for the same cost and get much more use out of it from multiple rebuilds. For people like me, this is cheaper and more attractive. What they should have done was left the rules alone because the crates were competitive. They could still be rush sanctioned and if you wanted to you could buy a membership, run a crate, and earn points towards Rush's point fund. This way it opens the door to more cars and doesn't force crates on everyone

[Mod Pro]

Tdietz, I understand... but as a promorer, if I all of a sudden have someone that is raising most of the money and doing the majority of the marketing for a support class... right out of the gate I'm saving money and time... just thinking... could be wrong...

[jo73]

Can't put a GM crate motor in a Ford frame ??? Ok, why the hell not ? It's called fabrication, it's pretty much entry level fab work. Again, makes no sense what so ever...

[Walt Wimer]

Going back to the old NASCAR rules for the coupes in the 1950s!!   You couldn't run a Chevy or other GM engine in a Ford coupe.   Ford in Ford, GM in GM!!   When the DeSoto Firedomes became the hot set-up they were all in Plymouth or Dodge coupes.  But by the end of the 50s things had changed with guys in PRA running Buick engines in Ford coupes.  

 

GOOD RACING!!!

 

Walt

[Paul55]

Dumb rule.

[Paul55]

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Edited by Paul55, 24 November 2016 - 10:40 AM.

[714d]

Going back to the old NASCAR rules for the coupes in the 1950s!!   You couldn't run a Chevy or other GM engine in a Ford coupe.   Ford in Ford, GM in GM!!   When the DeSoto Firedomes became the hot set-up they were all in Plymouth or Dodge coupes.  But by the end of the 50s things had changed with guys in PRA running Buick engines in Ford coupes.  
 
GOOD RACING!!!
 
Walt

That rule is great, and still exists in most stock classes BUT you are no longer allowed to run a Ford in your Ford. THAT is where it becomes a stupid rule.

[DegenerationX]

My question is why someone at Lernerville can"t come on here and give the right answer. 

 

A better question is, instead of hiding on an outdated message board hiding behind a screen name, why don't you pick up the phone, call the office and talk to the promoter like a man?!

[FanJim24]

 

A better question is, instead of hiding on an outdated message board hiding behind a screen name, why don't you pick up the phone, call the office and talk to the promoter like a man?!

Because they don't listen to any one single customer!  Apparently, they aren't listening to all of them put together either.  That's not much of a business model.  The sportsmen used to be the best race of the night, now it's not the case, and some nights there just isn't a good race.  If I'm going to just watch follow the leader, I can find that at any track.  The drop off from what Lernerville was to just another race track will chase paying customers away.  

Edited by FanJim24, 25 November 2016 - 11:06 AM.