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#1 Walt Wimer

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 03:30 PM

How about a couple of you guys from up that way fill me in on this class!!    It appears to me that the class fits somewhere between a Limited Late Model and a Street Stock??   Looks like a Late Model, but with more restrictions than the steel block LMs??    But wouldn't be legal to run with the Street Stocks anywhere including the Penn-Ohio Pro-Stock Series??    What are the engine limits??

 

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 04:24 PM

Basically a pure stock motor in a late model. Most of the semi classes limit the shocks to the non adjustable type.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 05:13 PM

Can crates run in this class?


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 05:31 PM

Another class. Boy that's definitely what is needed. I say mini trucks with motors that have at least 100,000 miles on them. Turbo's allowed w/NOS kit plumbed in. 8" tires of course. W hat NEW class would you start ?

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 05:41 PM

The 602 is allowed.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:01 PM

The engines are stock block 358 max.Flat tops, Wet sump, any steel head, roller rockers allowed, .515 lift flat cam max. It's actually a pretty nice engine package (would be great for the street stock class, but too late to reel them in). Chassis is open to any late model with the only restriction being sealed/non-adjustable shocks. I'm usually against adding classes, but I think this class is gaining popularity. A few thousand on a roller, a few thousand in a motor, a thousand total in shocks, and you can win any week. If you know what you're doing, I'm sure it can be done even less. I think it's way better than an open steel block class, where you really don't save much money compared to a super.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:11 PM

The engines are stock block 358 max.Flat tops, Wet sump, any steel head, roller rockers allowed, .515 lift flat cam max. It's actually a pretty nice engine package (would be great for the street stock class, but too late to reel them in). Chassis is open to any late model with the only restriction being sealed/non-adjustable shocks. I'm usually against adding classes, but I think this class is gaining popularity. A few thousand on a roller, a few thousand in a motor, a thousand total in shocks, and you can win any week. If you know what you're doing, I'm sure it can be done even less. I think it's way better than an open steel block class, where you really don't save much money compared to a super.


The only addition to this description is that it's any steel head with stock valve angles and that the .515 cam lift is measured at the valve. Otherwise you got it. Full blow late models on non-adjustable shocks. Very affordable as far as late models go.

Edited by rsadiedog, 12 December 2016 - 06:11 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:36 PM

Full blown late models?

 

The only addition to this description is that it's any steel head with stock valve angles and that the .515 cam lift is measured at the valve. Otherwise you got it. Full blow late models on non-adjustable shocks. Very affordable as far as late models go.




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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:40 PM

Full blown late models?
 


What he's saying, is you can buy a roller from a super team and race it in this class with a legal engine and shocks. The original post asked if they were a late model/street stock hybrid like the clip cars that run in other places. They are not. They are a late model chassis.


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Posted 12 December 2016 - 06:59 PM

Another class. Boy that's definitely what is needed. I say mini trucks with motors that have at least 100,000 miles on them. Turbo's allowed w/NOS kit plumbed in. 8" tires of course. W hat NEW class would you start ?

Remember the old 30 x 90 as they were called Walt. Point them and hang on.

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#11 rsadiedog

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:32 PM

Full blown late models?
 


Yes, the car by itself is a late model, no pieces of stock clip or anything like that.

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 09:26 PM

MUCH THANX guys!!!  I had heard these cars ran 358 engines, but was not sure!!  Does the class run anywhere else but Hummingbird and Thunder Mountain, say further east maybe like Clinton County??




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Posted 12 December 2016 - 09:45 PM

Clinton county runs them, and dog hollow is running them some this year. Marion center also talked about it, but I believe they backed out.


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:14 AM

Clinton county used to run them, but changed the rules at Beginning of last year with new promoters. Clinton county runs 358 but no cam lift rule, no shock rule.

For what it's worth, I ran my Hummingbird semi late at Clinton co the last race of year and started 17th in feature and finished 4th! So yes you can run at Clinton but give up a little.

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