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Posted 16 December 2016 - 05:27 PM

I just have a few thoughts from this past season and the upcoming one involving Rocket Chassis, Josh Richards, Kryptonite Racecars, Colton Flinner, and the Gateway Dirt Nationals.

 

Josh Richards moving to Best Performance Motorsports for the 2017 season has been among the top news as we get closer to the new year. Personally, I think it makes perfect sense, at least from Rocket’s point of view. Josh absolutely dominated the World of Outlaws late model series this year in the Rocket house car, and performed very well in races outside of the series. His replacement, Brandon Sheppard, has proved himself as a top young talent and should be able to follow in Josh’s footsteps with the World of Outlaws in 2017. The Best Performance Motorsports car to be driven by Josh is essentially an extension of the Rocket House car. Should Josh be able to have a season like the last, but with the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series, Rocket will be undoubtedly the best chassis available in dirt late model racing. In 2017 both major dirt late model touring series may be dominated by Rocket Chassis.

 

Another chassis that I have seen make a rise in the 2016 season is Kryptonite Race Cars of Parkersburg, West Virginia. Freddie Carpenter, and son Tyler toured more this year getting out of their comfort zone and performed well. I spoke with them at PRI and they are very personable and genuinely care about their customers. It seems that they receive a lot of criticism for not following a major series, or running mainly big shows, which I just can’t understand. They run a small chassis fabrication shop and do most of the work themselves. They do not have the luxury of competing at a national level all the time because they are Kryptonite Race Cars. Other major dirt late model chassis manufacturers have many employees to do all the grunt work for them while touring the country. Given the resources they have, I believe that Kryptonite is overlooked and will continue to make a statement in years to come.

 

I also feel the need to bring back down to earth one driver who made a great leap this year. I had spoken to him at several Lucas Oil races this year, I attended 10, and upon first meeting he gained my respect. He was humble, and seemed grateful for the opportunity his father had given him to run the series full time. Later in the year in conversation he became cocky and appeared to think that he was one of the greatest dirt late model drivers of his time. His name is Colton Flinner and in 2016 he competed with the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series and won the Lucas Oil Rookie of the Year title, as well as the OPTIMA Batteries Hard Charger Points title. But let’s look at the stats and facts.

 

First, the information I have is taken directly from the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series website, lucasdirt.com. Flinner entered 44 Lucas Oil races this year, but only started 33 of them. Of these 33 races he started, 27 of them he used a provisional to get into. Another 3 of these, every driver entered started the race because of low car counts. So, in only 3 of the 33 Lucas Oil races he made did he race his way in. The remaining three that he raced his way in, only a few cars did not start the race, possibly because of mechanical failure, the website does not provide that much information. Flinner run the Rookie of the Year title, but was the only driver entered. He also won the Hard Charger Points title, but is that really that hard to do when you start in the back every single race?

 

While I do respect Colton Flinner for following the tour the whole year, I did not like how he changed his attitude throughout the course of the year. Mr. Flinner, you are no better than any other driver that pulls onto a track with you on any given night. Learn to respect your fellow racers and develop your skills and you may one day be one of the top drivers in the country, but until that time comes, carry yourself accordingly.

 

Finally, the Gateway Dirt Nationals are currently going on. This event has received a lot of criticism from the dirt community and it is unfounded. A lot of people took the time out of their lives to make this happen and create a dirt event that puts our sport on a pedestal. Support those who dedicate their time to promote our sport and bring it back to its former glory. Dirt track racing has become very expensive and as such, if it continues to be put down, will cease to exist as many tracks all over this great country already have.

 

Till Next Time,

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Posted 16 December 2016 - 07:39 PM

I think what and the way they did it was impressive as for what the Flinners accomplished. To come down on them in the fashion you choose, from the lucas site, does not give that father/son credit due. By just getting the operation to the next race, to many tracks for the first time, was a feat in itself.

Did it change his attitude. Maybe it did. But I think it's a attitude he had to have. Having the right frame of mind is also important. I don't know there team plans for next year but will see if the finishes improve.


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Posted 16 December 2016 - 09:08 PM

I believe that they deserve credit. For a father and son to travel the country to compete with the Lucas Oil series was a feat that they accomplished. However, just because you followed the top series in the nation does not mean that you are better than the locals that show up to race with you night after night. Some of the things I've heard come from the Flinners mouths regarding these local teams is despicable and unfounded. I have never heard anyone in any series speak about other racers in this manner. I would also note that often these locals were better than him, most notably at the Pittsburgher 100 where he was lapped in a heat race by a local. Again, I give them credit for following the tour and the sacrifices that they made, but that does not make them better or more competitive than any other driver that pulls out onto the track.


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Posted 17 December 2016 - 10:41 AM

yeah you can't  let your head out grow your helmet..... thats not good. :)




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Posted 17 December 2016 - 02:54 PM

Watch how quickly the fall off the tour with out no provisional to rely on this coming year.




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Posted 17 December 2016 - 08:25 PM

Only time will tell if he becomes a better racer. As for putting the bad mouth on people. Yes, there is no call for it. I doubt if any local SLM driver could do any better. Personally I think the most important thing you need on the road is a quality wrench/tire guy/ or a shock guy. That guy is few and far between. Did they learn something out there ?
We will see.....


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 12:08 AM

Only time will tell if he becomes a better racer. As for putting the bad mouth on people. Yes, there is no call for it. I doubt if any local SLM driver could do any better. Personally I think the most important thing you need on the road is a quality wrench/tire guy/ or a shock guy. That guy is few and far between. Did they learn something out there ?
We will see.....


You doubt any other local late model driver could do better than Colton Flinner on the Lucas tour? Seriously?

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 11:42 AM

I was thinking the same thing exactly. Miley, King, both Blairs, Norris, Ferree, and dare I say Lux, with the same equipment Flinner is in, would do better IMO. And nothing that #thetruth said was really bad mouthing. He stated that, in his opinion, Flinner's attitude changed and then backed it up with cold hard facts. Not sure what is hard to understand about that. The attitude doesn't match the performances is the point that is being made. I commend them for trying and following the tour all year. That is likely down to just having the money to do it, but sticking with it through the struggles is also commendable. I think that Matus will have a similar season Flinner if he runs with the all stars as has been stated on here. Matus is talented and has a bright future but I don't think he is ready for that yet.




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Posted 18 December 2016 - 02:04 PM

Not better than Colton flinner. I am saying making races. Everything starts with were you finish in that heat race to make the A. There are many guys that travel that if they don't get a good pill draw or good time trail fight a uphill battle all night. The crew you have has as much to do with that as the driver, maybe more. A ill handling car I don't care who is driving won't get you there. Do I think there are better local guys than flinner . Yes.


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 03:24 PM

Not better than Colton flinner. I am saying making races. Everything starts with were you finish in that heat race to make the A. There are many guys that travel that if they don't get a good pill draw or good time trail fight a uphill battle all night. The crew you have has as much to do with that as the driver, maybe more. A ill handling car I don't care who is driving won't get you there. Do I think there are better local guys than flinner . Yes.


Alex Ferree made as many Lucas races on merit as Colton Flinner in 2016. In a grand total of maybe 5 or 6 starts.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 03:02 AM

Flinner is running the 2017 Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series per several sources.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 10:27 AM

No shit. This was a month old news about him running Lucas truth.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 01:26 PM

No shit. This was a month old news about him running Lucas truth.


It's not like this is big news that everyone around the country is curious about. A previous poster wasn't sure, so I looked into it and found an answer. Apparently you've jumped on some bandwagon I didn't know existed. I didn't know a racer getting a participation trophy (provisional) almost every race of the season was something to put on display.


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Posted 28 December 2016 - 02:02 PM

It's not like this is big news that everyone around the country is curious about. A previous poster wasn't sure, so I looked into it and found an answer. Apparently you've jumped on some bandwagon I didn't know existed. I didn't know a racer getting a participation trophy (provisional) almost every race of the season was something to put on display.

 

 

It was on DoD, so they must think everybody cares.



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Posted 28 December 2016 - 07:38 PM

 

 

It was on DoD, so they must think everybody cares.

 

They just had extra space and was used in as a filler,not that anyone cares. 




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Posted 28 December 2016 - 08:39 PM

Your replys that they competed is far and in between. Yes it was an accomplishment that they ran the entire season. But did they really learn anything?
We will see just what happens this year. And didnt Russ King win the WOO rookie of the year under similar circumstances?


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Posted 29 December 2016 - 07:15 AM

Your replys that they competed is far and in between. Yes it was an accomplishment that they ran the entire season. But did they really learn anything?
We will see just what happens this year. And didnt Russ King win the WOO rookie of the year under similar circumstances?


Russ did win WoO RoY under similar circumstances, but he was more competitive on tour and actually got a handful of top tens.

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Posted 29 December 2016 - 08:46 AM

Sad to hear ! There are many many good drivers that will never get a shot . Flinners have thrown bucket loads of money out for that kid to race .. he probably totaled 2or 3 rockets just learning how to go around Pittsburgh .. Hope someone smacks him in the mouth and teaches him to act more like Kid rocket because that asshole attitude wont get him very far ! it rarely does ! Those stats are a joke and anybody with a mountain of money can do that ! They should just go buy some Sprint cup cars and have a start and park team . But I hope the kid can snap out of it and be a little humble for his own good ! would love to cheer him on as a local !




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Posted 31 December 2016 - 03:53 PM

put your name behind what you say ....a lot of he said that she said , joe blow heard .......lol


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Posted 02 January 2017 - 11:08 AM

put your name behind what you say ....a lot of he said that she said , joe blow heard .......lol


I don't think that stats from the Lucas Oil websites are he said she said. You can't ignore the facts. There available for anyone to see


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