No I'm saying that if they did it that way there would be no handout. You would still have to race for your spot. If all other 9 drivers make it then you are the lucky dog. But what I don't understand is how is he still getting the provisional?So your point is that "you" were the colton flinner on the ufo tour since no one ever followed it and you got to race by taking a provisional every time just because you followed the tour?
Lucas Oil Provisionals
Started by #TheTruth, Feb 18 2017 05:06 PM
33 replies to this topic
#21
Posted 21 February 2017 - 05:43 PM
Matt D
#22
Posted 21 February 2017 - 06:12 PM
I don't really see what the big deal is! He was at every race last year so maybe lucas feels the team that does that and commits to the series deserves the provisionals. It is what it is.Even Flinner's website is becoming littered with the word "provisional". He seems so proud of the fact that he makes every race by getting a Lucas Oil handout. No progress seems to have been made after a year on the tour. We'll see if he continues to rely on provisionals to make up for lackluster showings night in and night out. Personally I hope the series makes a change, not only to make Flinner have to race his way in, but also to give fans a show when everyone is competing for the final transfer spot.
Edited by Paul55, 21 February 2017 - 06:12 PM.
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#23
Posted 21 February 2017 - 06:37 PM
Early season provisionals are based on last years stats. Are you all new to racing or just hate the kid? Myself, I know the history of the team and don't feel the need to predict the future.
Edited by BUTTBEAK, 21 February 2017 - 07:42 PM.
#24
Posted 21 February 2017 - 07:24 PM
Not hating. Just didn't know if it was because he was rookie of the year last year or because he was that far up in regular points. I personally enjoy the fact that he is trying. He will eventually have a great night and that's all it takes is just one. Then everyone will be buying his shirts and cheering him on.Early season provisionals are based on last years stats. Are you all new to racing or just hate the kid? Myself, I know the history of the team and don't feel the need to predict the future.
Matt D
#25
Posted 21 February 2017 - 07:42 PM
#26
Posted 21 February 2017 - 07:54 PM
http://lucasdirt.com...rt_rulebook.pdf
For those that want provisional clarification, see section 6.
#27
Posted 21 February 2017 - 08:13 PM
I'm not looking for provisional clarification. I'm aware of the rules. I'm concerned with the fact that each and every race better cars have to load up so that he gets to ride around. I was originally a Flinner fan last year meeting him in Florida and respecting what he is trying to do. I attended 10 events last year, most notably the Pittsburgher and race after race he became cocky and both he and his father spoke as if they were better than any local that they ever race with. In Florida they openly spoke with me. Throughout the year they spoke less and less and hanging around their trailer the attitude had changed and they talked down about other drivers. By the time the Pittsburgher rolled around they were "better" than any local talent and didn't even acknowledge my existence. But karma comes around and one of those lowly "locals" lapped the superstar in his heat race. The point is the Lucas Oil series turns good cars away every race so that Colton Flinner gets to race. If he were humble as he were in Florida like he was last year I probably wouldn't have a problem with the provisionals, but he is no better than any other driver that pulls on the track and as a result of the provisional system he thinks that he is better. Cars that qualify 20 spots ahead of him and finish 8 spots ahead of him in the B are forced to load up so that he gets to race.
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#28
Posted 21 February 2017 - 08:26 PM
plain and simple he;s a flinner, like john and mark,( ive raced against both.).. why would colton be any different ? but I still would rather see him do well, and not be a provisional speedbump every show
#29
Posted 21 February 2017 - 08:27 PM
Series like Lucas and WoO no longer have large amounts of regulars following the tour, so they set a high priority on loyalty. I would guess the reason that Flinner has not improved more is because he can't match the budgets of most of the veteran competitors on the Lucas Tour. If some of you guys are so interested in how they make any money, maybe you should donate a few hours or bucks. Every series turns away cars that qualify and race better than the provisional, that's the nature of the beast.
Edited by flash49, 21 February 2017 - 08:28 PM.
#31
Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:01 AM
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Edited by ex9Ccrewguy, 25 February 2017 - 09:32 AM.
#32
Posted 25 February 2017 - 05:22 PM
Are you saying that only one from up here made a race?1
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#33
Posted 25 February 2017 - 08:55 PM
nope, tried to delete a mistake I made...lol... our local boys (cept lil finger) did pretty well on the shows in fla
#34
Posted 25 February 2017 - 10:51 PM
Michael Lake did the best of the Late Model guys with an 8th at East Bay. And for the Sprint Cars it was Tim Shaffer with two 2nds and a 3rd with the All Stars at Bubba. CONGRATULATIONS!! and GOOD LUCK to Ryan Blaney tomorrow!!
GOOD RACING!!!
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