30 replies to this topic

[Justin314]

What a bombshell announcement. Its about time for Lucas to be at Lernerville.

[bhhracing]

Amen.woo contract expired finally when tomsons bought the place. Lucas has been wanting it for yrs.

[Skull]

Amen.woo contract expired finally when tomsons bought the place. Lucas has been wanting it for yrs.

I've received conflicting information about their relationship with the WoO. I initially believed that the Tomson's bought the track with the understanding that they had to honor the balance of the contract remaining with them. Then I was told that the after that contract expired, the Tomson's negotiated another multi-year deal.

 

However, I have to agree with you in that any deal they had with the WoO's had to have expired because there is no way they could have the LOLMS sanction The Firecracker if they were still in business with the Tomson's. It makes me wonder what will happen with the Silver Cup and the Commonwealth Clash.

Edited by Skull, 13 September 2021 - 07:14 PM.

[Tommy]

I've received conflicting information about their relationship with the WoO. I initially believed that the Tomson's bought the track with the understanding that they had to honor the balance of the contract remaining with them. Then I was told that the after that contract expired, the Tomson's negotiated another multi-year deal.
 
However, I have to agree with you in that any deal they had with the WoO's had to have expired because there is no way they could have the LOLMS sanction The Firecracker if they were still in business with the Tomson's. It makes me wonder what will happen with the Silver Cup and the Commonwealth Clash.

Losing the Silver Cup would be a big hit to Lernervilles bottom line

[jo73]

Same dates ? As for the woo, sprints and lernerville. I hope they do keep a agreement with the woo. BUT, if they don't then lock up the all stars now. There racing has been excellent this year.

[bhhracing]

I've received conflicting information about their relationship with the WoO. I initially believed that the Tomson's bought the track with the understanding that they had to honor the balance of the contract remaining with them. Then I was told that the after that contract expired, the Tomson's negotiated another multi-year deal.
 
However, I have to agree with you in that any deal they had with the WoO's had to have expired because there is no way they could have the LOLMS sanction The Firecracker if they were still in business with the Tomson's. It makes me wonder what will happen with the Silver Cup and the Commonwealth Clash.

I believe When they bought the track they did a 5 year contract with WRG. That expired this year. That is why the steel city stampede is totally in their control this year and dirt car is not involved. When I saw that I knew WRG was on their way out. I look for WRG to run against the fire cracker now. You know they are not very happy about this taking place.

Edited by bhhracing, 13 September 2021 - 08:50 PM.

[Justin314]

Was a write up on twitter that the Gm is open to adding a WoO late model date. DMM should remain WoO. I love the All Stars but two yrs in a row with no make up date is bs. 

[Benny K]

WoO will schedule against this race now, swap out the WoO regulars for the Lucas regulars and the car counts will be about the same. Curious as to what happens to the RUSH Emig race as a result. 

[bhhracing]

WoO will schedule against this race now, swap out the WoO regulars for the Lucas regulars and the car counts will be about the same. Curious as to what happens to the RUSH Emig race as a result. 

Highly doubt nothing will happen to the rush. Everybody's acting like the whole season will change. This is just one weekend out of the schedule. It's still the same race just different sanctioning.

[dirtstudent2]

WoO will schedule against this race now, swap out the WoO regulars for the Lucas regulars and the car counts will be about the same. Curious as to what happens to the RUSH Emig race as a result. 

" swap out the WoO regulars for the Lucas regulars and the car counts will be about the same."

 

It would be a good thing for drivers, car owners and fans if it leads to competition for racers with tow money and start money the bargaining tools used by WoO and Lucas.

 

Well funded racers would as usual go where they want based on accolades and chance to win.

But over all car counts for fans will go with tow money, B and C main money, and start money.

Wouldn't it be great if B main money would be twice or more that of decent tow money?  

Wouldn't it be great if Super Late counts for special shows were high enough there was no need for RUSH lates to be added whether you like them or not?

Pay out B main money the same or better then your secondary show and might you get 50+ cars for a show? 

Might the B main for fans become just as good a "racing" show then the A?

[jo73]

WRG. As it stands I think they've let the late models fall behind what lucas has to offer. They are stacking up some big pay days for 2022. The sprint cars carry woo racing in my opinion. If you look at most shows on the woo sprint schedule compared to the all star schedule you have more locals supporting the all stars at most tracks. That Tuscarora race at port royal was loaded with talent. The williams grove national open will prove my point.

[dirtstudent2]

Then as a fan I'm not sure if I would rather have 4 really good shows to go to at a track or 2 really great fantastic shows.

 

Meaning do you want to be able to go to Lernerville for both Allstar and WoO sprints and WoO and Lucas super lates verses surviving WoO sprints and Lucas Supers?

 

Might be ok and even better for fans to just have WoO sprints and Lucas Supers if we could go watch both at more tracks.

Wouldn't it be great if 5 or 6 different local Western PA and Eastern Ohio tracks would all get both each season?

 

... maybe Lernerville, Sharon, Eriez, PPMS, Stateline, Mercer, Wayne county, you fill in the rest per where you usually go 

 

Isn't the main financial interest of all tracks to provide what fans want to see to make a profit?

Isn't the lack of doing so what demands such a heavy cost burden be carried by racers?

As I've said so many times before on here, Take care of the racers and the show, and the stands and concessions will take care of themselves.

Edited by dirtstudent2, 14 September 2021 - 07:54 AM.

[Benny K]

My hope is that they add a WoO date at some other point in the season, maybe something later in the year and are able to keep their relationship ok. There are more than one track that has Lucas and WoO Sprint races. Port Royal even has both Late Model Series. 

[Justin314]

2022 schedule shaping up to be a good one with the addition of the McConnell memorial, ULMS and now Lucas. Hopefully they add WoO lates and move the all star show to summer and make it the Earl Bauman Memorial again, itll be great. 

[Benny K]

I-55 for 20,000 to win is the event scheduled to go against the Firecracker for next year for WoO along with the Summernationals. Probably ends up being a wash with no increased car count with Lucas sanctioning. 

[23wellerfan31]

Not even remotely shocked. WRG has been and always will be a cancer to the dirt racing world. Scheduled over the show me too like a bunch of idiots. Love how they were going to work together on a schedule and rules to not over step them too much. Yeah. That lasted long. Mark mustve got his panties in a bunch losing a race close to home.

[Vigoda Motorsports]

I-55 for 20,000 to win is the event scheduled to go against the Firecracker for next year for WoO along with the Summernationals. Probably ends up being a wash with no increased car count with Lucas sanctioning. 

The quality of the lineup will be much better.

[Skull]

Would love to see them add a USAC Sprint race and an STSS Modified race.

[Benny K]

Would love the STSS race but that wont happen unless Lernerville jumps over to the American Racer Cup for Mods or at least opens it up to a Ooen tire. Everyone would have to buy new tires if not.

[Sparkler]

I was told by the office mgr Helen camping sites are now $100 for this event! 1 step forward, 2 steps back!