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[flash49]

Results as follows:                          *** UNDER A RAIN DELAY SINCE 4:30 PM ***   ****Show Canceled at 6.25 PM****

 

 

 

410 Sprint A-Main: $3K to win/25 LAPS

 

 

 

1.     David Kalb Jr. (11J) from 4th/won by 1.257 seconds/led laps 25-26

2.     Jeremy Weaver (5) from 13th/HARD CHARGER

3.     Dale Blaney (32B)

4.     Brandon Spithaler (22) from 9th

5.     Darin Gallagher (12) from 11th

6.     Brent Matus (33)

7.     Jacob Begenwald (3J)

8.     Andy Cavanaugh (x7)

9.     Carl Bowser (11) DNF/led laps 1-24/got together with A. J. Flick on the final lap with both sailing off the track in turn 2

10.   A. J. Flick (2) DNF

11.   Ryan Fredericks (22R)

12.   Mike Miller (G1)

13.   Adam Herb (05) DNF

14.   Todd Burgard (4K)

15.   Cameron Nastasi (99) DNF

16.   Brandon Matus (13) DNF

17.   Michael Lutz Jr. (86) DNF

18.   Jon Carpenter (22c) DNF

 

 

 

RUSH Late Model A-Main: $3,500 to win/30 LAPS

 

 

 

1.     Michael Norris (1) from 3rd/won by .509 seconds/led laps 20-30

2.     Joe Martin (10s) led laps 1-9

3.     Kyle Zimmerman (31) from 6th

4.     Braeden Dillinger (14) from 10th

5.     Brock Pinkerous (555) led laps 10-19

6.     Chad Homan (91)

7.     Jim Rasey (21J)

8.     Logan Zarin (33x) from 20th/HARD CHARGER

9.     Jeremy Wonderling (3j)

10.   Clinton Hersh (16)

11.   Colton Flinner (75)

12.   Tim Shaffer (45)

13.   Ashton Briggs (11A) from 19th

14.   Noah Brunell (31) from 22nd

15.   Brett Marlatt (99B) from 18th

16.   Jason Knowles (4)

17.   Cody Dawson (36)

18.   Konar Loney (14L)

19.   Aaron Miller (20)

20.   Bryce Davis (94) DNF

21.   Tommy Schirnhofer (8) DNF

22.   Austin Allen (32) DNF

23.   Tony Musolino (42) DNF

24.   Cole Petrelle (184) DNF

 

 

 

Pro Stock Dow/Kyle Memorial A-Main: $3,000 to win/25 LAPS

 

 

 

1.     **RAINED OUT**

 

 

 

 

RUSH Sprint A-Main: $800 to win/20 LAPS

 

 

 

1.     John Mollick (4J) from the pole/won by .506 seconds/led all 20 laps

2.     Chad Ruhlman (68)

3.     Blaze Myers (43Jr)

4.     Arnie Kent (9)

5.     Brian Cressley (41)

6.     Gale Ruth Jr. (24) DNF (All the cars behind Ruth were 2 laps down, Ruth crashed while in 4th on lap 20)

7.     Jeff Metsger (20)

8.     Trent Marshall (17)

9.     Charlie Utsinger (23)

10.   Ricky Tucker Jr. (1T)

11.   Billy Myers (43Sr)

12.   Brandon McWilliams (316)

13.   Devin Deeter (54)

14.   Kevin Kaserman (13k)

15.   Logen Lockhart (58)

 

 

 

305 Sprint A-Main: $800 to win/20 LAPS

 

 

 

1.     Jacob Gomola (4J) from 2nd/won by .633 seconds/led all 20 laps

2.     Greg Dobrosky (88)

3.     Brett Brunkenhoefer (47)

4.     Jarrett Rosencrance (25)

5.     Hunter Hite (21)

6.     Nolan Groves (25G) from 13th/HARD CHARGER

7.     A. J. Barton (99J) from 11th

8.     Jazlyn Boyles (30)

9.     Bella Begenwald (3J)

10.   Jim Pattock (42)

11.   Bill Sheehan (98s)

12.   Jim Morris (16) DNF

13.   Mike Hite (4G) DNF

14.   Stevie Kenawell (17K) DNS

15.   Josh Hartman (3x) DNS

Edited by flash49, 15 October 2023 - 05:30 PM.

[Skull]

Website says the balance of the show will be made up in early '24. They probably lost their tail on this event this year.

 

They need to do something different, starting with scheduling. Everyone knows that the weather around here begins to get sketchy at the end of September into early October. Secondly, instead of 10 divisions, why not trim it to six and run two nights? I know the obvious answer is that "practice" night is relatively easy revenue while 10 divisions equal more back gate. However, their physical fan attendance and cars per division would likely increase without holding team's hostage for Thursday.  For most fans, this event has turned into a slog nearly every year. And from the looks of the stands, fans have grown weary of it.

[flash49]

I think a lot more fans would have been there had the weather been better.  They're were quite a few people with two-day $75 pit passes on Friday, and several that were there for three days.    Eight of the fifteen years the Stampede has run, the car count has been over 300, I think the event is still viable.  I really enjoyed Friday's night's program, but didn't go back today because of the weather forecast.

[Sparkler]

The weather definitely played a role. I had 3 groups that were going to camp but all decided to stay home. That right there alone was probably close to a $1000 between them all and passes and camping fees. Friday night is never a good crowd with high school football. Saturday is when they normally pack the place. If they want all those cars they have to have it after all the local tracks close..

[FanJim24]

Website says the balance of the show will be made up in early '24. They probably lost their tail on this event this year.

 

They need to do something different, starting with scheduling. Everyone knows that the weather around here begins to get sketchy at the end of September into early October. Secondly, instead of 10 divisions, why not trim it to six and run two nights? I know the obvious answer is that "practice" night is relatively easy revenue while 10 divisions equal more back gate. However, their physical fan attendance and cars per division would likely increase without holding team's hostage for Thursday.  For most fans, this event has turned into a slog nearly every year. And from the looks of the stands, fans have grown weary of it.

It kind of defeats being an end of year bash, if it's not at the end of the year, and not much of a bash. They usually get it in, and it's fairly well attended most years. Even if not, I think it's a good closeout to the season. I like all of that racing, myself. If someone doesn't they can just leave when it's enough. 

[Sparkler]

It kind of defeats being an end of year bash, if it's not at the end of the year, and not much of a bash. They usually get it in, and it's fairly well attended most years. Even if not, I think it's a good closeout to the season. I like all of that racing, myself. If someone doesn't they can just leave when it's enough. 

I agree normally a good time

[DegenerationX]

Plenty of race tracks available to buy or lease to test your theory. Your theory sounds easy and practical enough, but you have to admit they are exponentially more successful in what they do than most. I just hope they appreciate what they have in Dan Bauman. What than man does to provide an exceptional racing surface is extremely rare.

 

Website says the balance of the show will be made up in early '24. They probably lost their tail on this event this year.

 

They need to do something different, starting with scheduling. Everyone knows that the weather around here begins to get sketchy at the end of September into early October. Secondly, instead of 10 divisions, why not trim it to six and run two nights? I know the obvious answer is that "practice" night is relatively easy revenue while 10 divisions equal more back gate. However, their physical fan attendance and cars per division would likely increase without holding team's hostage for Thursday.  For most fans, this event has turned into a slog nearly every year. And from the looks of the stands, fans have grown weary of it.

[Vigoda Motorsports]

Plenty of race tracks available to buy or lease to test your theory. Your theory sounds easy and practical enough, but you have to admit they are exponentially more successful in what they do than most. I just hope they appreciate what they have in Dan Bauman. What than man does to provide an exceptional racing surface is extremely rare.
 

No, hes right. There was low attendance for this event last year too with much better weather. This is my yearly
take that this is a nothing happening event that could be so much
better if they eliminated some classes that no one wants to see and raised the purses in the classes that people that do, namely the big 3, maybe also the Rush lates. Drawing a better quality of car in every division will draw more people. As it is, youre expecting people to make a big deal over regular show fields with 4 or 5 backgate classes.

Super Lates, Sprints, Modifieds, Rush Lates 10,000 to win.
Street Stocks 5,000 to win.

Edited by Vigoda Motorsports, 17 October 2023 - 02:14 PM.

[Skull]

No, hes right. There was low attendance for this event last year too with much better weather. This is my yearly
take that this is a nothing happening event that could be so much
better if they eliminated some classes that no one wants to see and raised the purses in the classes that people that do, namely the big 3, maybe also the Rush lates. Drawing a better quality of car in every division will draw more people. As it is, youre expecting people to make a big deal over regular show fields with 4 or 5 backgate classes.

Super Lates, Sprints, Modifieds, Rush Lates 10,000 to win.
Street Stocks 5,000 to win.

 

 

First, that dude defends everything they do up there, so I take anything he has to say with a grain of salt. They could eliminate auto racing all together and replace it with old ladies pushing shopping carts and he'd be on board. But I digress.

 

Apparently, some people like the event the way it is. I like your take on it better. They don't have to pay $10K to win, but they could pay more than they do with less divisions and one less money grabbing night and in my opinion get more cars and more fans. But whatever. I guess people like to camp up there for two nights, sit around the fire and get sh!t faced. Pretty much the same thing they do at the Firecracker. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[jo73]

All tracks that have the back gate grab and run, all deal with weather. It's usually getting chilly, the weather can flip 180 degree's within hours. Then you go up against what I believe is the biggest battle you have. High School football. Don Martin, to my knowledge, never raced once football started. Smart man I would say. I've been to many, I've frooze, I've been at the track at 1 AM, I always would say NEVER AGAIN. Yea right, challenger was the best.

[DegenerationX]

That is a true statement, Fall Fest at Challenger was the best!!

 

All tracks that have the back gate grab and run, all deal with weather. It's usually getting chilly, the weather can flip 180 degree's within hours. Then you go up against what I believe is the biggest battle you have. High School football. Don Martin, to my knowledge, never raced once football started. Smart man I would say. I've been to many, I've frooze, I've been at the track at 1 AM, I always would say NEVER AGAIN. Yea right, challenger was the best.

[DegenerationX]

I like your idea, but that's a big financial risk that late in the season without a backgate supported by those divisions "no one wants to watch".  While that may be mostly true, those bottom 3-4 divisions practically pay themselves.  Your idea is $45,000 to win alone, not to mention the payout throughout the field.  As a fan, I'd love to see it, but I wouldn't want to be the guy signing the checks and balancing the ledger on Sunday.  Even at $45 per person for a two day ticket, you'd need 1000 people through the gates just to pay the winners.  Local racing has shown that $5,000 or $10,000 to win shows don't always bring bigger fields, especially in a near recession at the end of the season and with a purse that's top heavy and falls off a cliff and barely paying tow money for positions 11 through 20 or 24.  The purses for the Stampede may not pay 5/10K to win, but the payout top to bottom is decent.  I do like the idea of splitting the divisions up over two nights, but to jo's point, you're not getting anywhere near a fab four crowd Friday night up against high school football and then if the weather is crappy Saturday night you're taking a five figure bath to finish your season.  That's how tracks end up on the Berkshire Hathaway site!

 

No, hes right. There was low attendance for this event last year too with much better weather. This is my yearly
take that this is a nothing happening event that could be so much
better if they eliminated some classes that no one wants to see and raised the purses in the classes that people that do, namely the big 3, maybe also the Rush lates. Drawing a better quality of car in every division will draw more people. As it is, youre expecting people to make a big deal over regular show fields with 4 or 5 backgate classes.

Super Lates, Sprints, Modifieds, Rush Lates 10,000 to win.
Street Stocks 5,000 to win.