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I have to agree its nice to hear that the same divisions will be back. But you have to cash in on the fact of 2 tracks only being around 15 miles apart. Where else do you know of 2 tracks that are almost the same and that close to one another. Eldora has cut back so far on on 360 and stock shows so much that WRP should step up and run them. Like i said what ever they decide i will honor their choices.

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And what would be the answer? I know a lot of people say stocks but they were not getting full feilds the trucks have good nights and bad, the mini sprints the same, the compacts need a chance to grow as it's the newest, the mods are a good show but you can't fight for them every week especialy when they're on at eldora. I do think the non wings are the premire class there and need to be so. 15 cars can put on a good show if there's competitive racing. Me myself I'd like to see a bomber stock class as it's a long leap from a compact or truck to mods.

Non wing was not always the premire class , when they started there were only 3, They were givin the chance to grow every week. Stocks were almost always there. The mini sprints came over from the smaller track. Any class that would run on a regular schedule might tend to grow. But sat nights is a hard night to compete with other tracks and you have to look at what they are running. But in the last yrs putting fans in the stands is the problem. You have to look at the headliners who dont run other tracks in the area on any givin nights 360,s nonwing and mods.

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Partickw, I'm pretty sure when WRP first opened it could have been classified as 1/4 mile. It was very flat and most racing was done down low. After the banking was put in the racing grove widened. Skip, You are just as much a part of WRP as anyone. When you aren't guarding your gate, it is noticed that you are missing. Your always quick with a hello and a handshake. We all understand your other commitments. As for classes, WRP will face the same challanges as they have since they opened. As long as tracks continue to fight for cars and fans (which is just good business), the class question will be a mistery. I agree with wingless sprints and winged sprints occasionally. The wingless car counts have continued to grow and with limaland winged 360s is natural choice to give guys 2 nights of racing. I love late models but no chance you can compete with oakshade. Mods are easy pick too. Even going against other tracks car count was respectable. Trucks are the foundation of WRP. Its amazing to see how this class had grown. Now I will jump to the sharks..... again this is just MY OPINION, NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THESE CLASSES...I wouldn't run minis too often. The racing is good but they have struggled with car counts. Same with the stocks, car counts have dropped at all local tracks except eldora. Many of them drivers only run eldora and nowhere else. I know I haven't mentions compacts. I'm not sure about that class. I see them as a "lower cost" class similar to trucks. I've actually wondered if they could/would run together. I was also at the first race at WRP. I also know that there were 5 classes of cars. My statements are just the views of a race fan. I've seen classes dropped due to lack of support. Again I have nothing against the classes "I wouldn't run". They have put on some great races at WRP in the past, just struggled with cars. Thanks to all those who do support waynesfield. Hope to see you next year.

[OGRE]

1st and foremost.....Greg and Tami are the nicest people that you'll meet. I'm sure they need a little time to digest their plan of attack for next season. However, Greg assured everyone that the classes will stay the same. Secondly, yes Greg and Tami have already contacted the employees that have supported this place with offers. I didn't hesitate to say yes. I sure hope we can keep the core group of people there. Best news though is that there will be racing in 2011 and the same classes!! Hope we can all rally around and support this track in 2011. The racing doesn't get any better! Oh and to answer someone's question, I think this track was originally billed as a 1/4 mile track. Don't take this as gospel but I think during the modifications that took place when Andy James and Cub were promoters made it a 1/3 mile track. I'm sure it's like any other track,, it depends on where you measure it.

[J&T Photos]

I am just glad that Waynesfield Raceway Park will be back for the 2011 Season!! We have been going to Waynesfield for years and years doing photos from the stands and then getting the invitation to come do photos from the infield/pits this past year, it has been a blast!! From meeting the drivers, fans, crews and track employees this year and helping them out, its been an honor. Alot of big things came from this past year and we are looking forward to a great 2011 Season at WRP and are already helping drivers/teams for the upcoming season.... Come on Spring!! Travis J&T Photos

[dirt track maniac]

WRP is a real racey track but trucks stocks mods and sprints should be on the card every sat night. run friday nights when lima is off and throw in the minis compacts and non wings. i would start at seven.

[compact racer]

WRP is a real racey track but trucks stocks mods and sprints should be on the card every sat night. run friday nights when lima is off and throw in the minis compacts and non wings. i would start at seven.

I'm just tickeled to hear we are going to be back at WRP. We (the compacts) would be glad to give up some nights to allow them to work in other classes. The good thing about our class is that it's self sustaining as well I belive the trucks are. If they took the minis, trucks and compacts and worked a rotation of giving one class a week off there should be room to work with the others. I still think the non wings are the top show at the track. Besides when we ran there when Greg and Tami ran the show they ran 5 classes and still got the show in on time. Isn't that what we all want, more racing and more cars?

[underbird fan]

Stating my opinion only KEEP THE COMPACTS !! Their car count isn't bad and they put several people in the stands and before someone assumes I drive or own one I don't. It may be hard for some people to swallow but some of their A-Main races was fun to watch. It's a great starter and or low budget class for people to be involved in racing.... As far as other shows I would like to see the Legends make a stop at WRP providing they show up with minimum of 20 cars I think they would be a nice show when the sprints are off somewhere else racing.

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One of the problems i see is nothing at all to Greg , but Dean had the connections and knew a lot a people from other tracks and it was a little easier for him to make a schedule up. Where Greg will have to either wait and see what other tracks post before he can put one together or will have to get with them. Even if the stocks are down fans pack the back fence when they run at lima. I say at least give them a chance. Its taken yrs to get a good car count in the non wing sprints they have been given the best chances to grow. Like i said before i talked to a sprint car owner and he said you have to find some backers who will help build a good point fund. If you noticed the counts in the trucks has been dropping to. Every class has put on some great racing.Every one of has a a right to what we want to see and are allowed to voice what they want. Just remember what i said about greg the one yr he was slow at getting out a schedule out and some where crying. Like i said Dean had some connections and Greg is a very busy fellow with what all he is in to. So just sit back and be quiet about yr comments if you dont see a early schedule. One of the things i dont like to see at a track and i have watched it at eldora. They run the headliners features first then when they are over a lot of them tend to leave while the support groups are running theirs. Then when the races are over a lot a fans like to go into the pits and a lot of the teams have left. I think it is a bad thing for the fans to go into the pits to see or talk to the drivers and crews and they have left.

[Austin]

And what would be the answer? I know a lot of people say stocks but they were not getting full feilds the trucks have good nights and bad, the mini sprints the same, the compacts need a chance to grow as it's the newest, the mods are a good show but you can't fight for them every week especialy when they're on at eldora. I do think the non wings are the premire class there and need to be so. 15 cars can put on a good show if there's competitive racing. Me myself I'd like to see a bomber stock class as it's a long leap from a compact or truck to mods.

im not saying that i have the answer...that is exactly why i am not running the track...but what i do know is, that the track will not survive financially with only 15 cars in each class.

[compact racer]

im not saying that i have the answer...that is exactly why i am not running the track...but what i do know is, that the track will not survive financially with only 15 cars in each class.

Now see I don't see it as a car count problem, I see it as a crowd problem. It takes butts in the seats to pay full fields. Like I said before some classes pay for themselfs others count on those seats to be filled. Actually from a bussiness stand point the lowest paid classes that will pull a respectable crowd would be your answer.

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I think we are all getting a little to excited over some thing that wont even happen until next year. I think we are all just trying to put our input into some thing that we cant control as a racer or fan. Its Gregs track and i think we just should all honor his ability to pull it off again. He ran the track when there were less people in the stands and we never had all this debating. Greg is the one who started the track and poured more money into it in getting it started than any one else. Im just glad that greg has steped up so quick to let every one know that every class will be back next year. So that its self should ease every ones thoughts for the off season. Just the idea of word of mouth about some good racing should draw people into WRP. Last year was a big step thanks to Dean. Greg and Tammi will just have to try and build on where Dean left off.

[joedirt]

One of the problems i see is nothing at all to Greg , but Dean had the connections and knew a lot a people from other tracks and it was a little easier for him to make a schedule up. Where Greg will have to either wait and see what other tracks post before he can put one together or will have to get with them.

Even if the stocks are down fans pack the back fence when they run at lima. I say at least give them a chance. Its taken yrs to get a good car count in the non wing sprints they have been given the best chances to grow. Like i said before i talked to a sprint car owner and he said you have to find some backers who will help build a good point fund. If you noticed the counts in the trucks has been dropping to. Every class has put on some great racing.Every one of has a a right to what we want to see and are allowed to voice what they want.

Just remember what i said about greg the one yr he was slow at getting out a schedule out and some where crying. Like i said Dean had some connections and Greg is a very busy fellow with what all he is in to. So just sit back and be quiet about yr comments if you dont see a early schedule.

One of the things i dont like to see at a track and i have watched it at eldora. They run the headliners features first then when they are over a lot of them tend to leave while the support groups are running theirs. Then when the races are over a lot a fans like to go into the pits and a lot of the teams have left. I think it is a bad thing for the fans to go into the pits to see or talk to the drivers and crews and they have left.

Why run your track based on other tracks? I understand working together but just decide which classes your going to run and schedule them. Stay away from the "Big Shows" and just run a consistent schedule where the teams know they can race every week. The Big Dawg didn't draw many cars because no one that wasn't local wanted to drive any distance and have the race cancelled and the payout has been a problem with the Big Dawg for years. Run consistent classes every week and build a solid base before trying to get too creative.

Some shade for those hot summer days would probably help, and some lights for the corners would be great.

[compact racer]

Why run your track based on other tracks? I understand working together but just decide which classes your going to run and schedule them. Stay away from the "Big Shows" and just run a consistent schedule where the teams know they can race every week. The Big Dawg didn't draw many cars because no one that wasn't local wanted to drive any distance and have the race cancelled and the payout has been a problem with the Big Dawg for years. Run consistent classes every week and build a solid base before trying to get too creative.

Some shade for those hot summer days would probably help, and some lights for the corners would be great.

I agree with you build a solid weekly program.

[Dr. Speedy]

I say make up the schedule, do not change it. only add to the show, don't cancel another class to put something in. It really confuses anyone involved when one week you are racing then the next week you have been removed from the schedule. JMO and advertise, advertise, advertise. get it out to other tracks as well as car shows, and in home town bars and restaurants, etc. In fact if you folks make up a schedule I would be glad to put them anywhere I go. I'm sure that other folks that support WMP would do it also.

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Compact Racer, I have to disagree with the "its not a car count problem, its a crowd problem". Here is my reasoning. You can't expect people to pay 50 dollars to watch 5 guys play flag football and expect them to believe its the NFL. The "show" is what people pay to see so you have to cater to your audience. WRP has to give the customer a good show at a fair price to keep them satisfied. I think WRP puts on a good show in a timely manner. Racing is fabulous in all classes. But the fan has to feel they got their moneys worth. And I feel a class of 10 cars just doesn't do it. I feel they will become bored. I like the comment about the shade for fans and the lights. I also hope they open concession stand under bleachers again. Skip, I don't think anyone is overreacting. We are just giving suggestions. Maybe this was one of our faults in past years. We just went with the flow. I know Greg is very capable of running the track but as I just said he has to listen to what the drivers and fans want. I do hope with this early commitment he can set his schedule to allow drivers and fans plenty of time to plan on attending WRP next season.

[SchraderFan36]

Seems like a no-brainer. If Millstream can't get it done, and there is such a call for it, why not run a Sunday evening show?

[compact racer]

Compact Racer,
I have to disagree with the "its not a car count problem, its a crowd problem". Here is my reasoning. You can't expect people to pay 50 dollars to watch 5 guys play flag football and expect them to believe its the NFL. The "show" is what people pay to see so you have to cater to your audience. WRP has to give the customer a good show at a fair price to keep them satisfied. I think WRP puts on a good show in a timely manner. Racing is fabulous in all classes. But the fan has to feel they got their moneys worth. And I feel a class of 10 cars just doesn't do it. I feel they will become bored.
I like the comment about the shade for fans and the lights. I also hope they open concession stand under bleachers again.
Skip,
I don't think anyone is overreacting. We are just giving suggestions. Maybe this was one of our faults in past years. We just went with the flow. I know Greg is very capable of running the track but as I just said he has to listen to what the drivers and fans want. I do hope with this early commitment he can set his schedule to allow drivers and fans plenty of time to plan on attending WRP next season.

And I'll have to disagree with you double checkerd. If all classes had ten cars I could see your point but thats not the case. Take the last friday night race the pits were packed but I've seen better crowds on a regular night. Besides where do you draw the line on car counts. I don;t know if there was a class that had a full field every night. Now Dean did give the trucks a couple nights off that seemed to get the count back up a little. I know the 2 day shows did hurt our class as it's a low buck class and that means you probably dont have money to race twice a week. Probably worked that way for the truck guys too. Now I'm not dissing on any class I like all the racing there and hope everyone gets their fair share. I remember when they started WRP there weren't many cars in any class but they stuck with it and it grew. If you just say hey we don't have tweenty cars lets get rid of them you'll soon have nothing. keep in mind that this season fought through a terrible economy and a lot of tracks struggled.

[intimidator 1]

One starter class is enough, I've seen the trucks and how they're built and they could use some improvement, but the compacts are too weak someone will get hurt when one of them get on their head. If you can build a compact you could build a truck and then there will be bout 35 of them. On a side note thats why everyone quit running mini stocks (UNSAFE).

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I think we are all debating some thing that we cant control. Greg has said that all division will be back no one can deny that. I dont think you will ever see a sunday show out of Greg , But i have to agree to many sat night tracks racing. Compac racer is right we have been in a very bad economy. But i dont think you can run 1 headliner with 3 support group, its gonna take 1 headliner and maybe a mod class when eldora isnt running plus 2 support divisions. I think to many 5000 to win is not the answer when you do that it means raising to ticket price and thats what you dont need. But some thing like the allstars is a different story. As for the racing you cant doubt it that the racing is by far a very good show. Its hard for some people to make a 2 night show and if you bring yr family it hurts the billfold. But if your a single person its a different story. I think we can all agree on one thing that were glad it will be runniing next year.