65 replies to this topic

[skip]

One starter class is enough, I've seen the trucks and how they're built and they could use some improvement, but the compacts are too weak someone will get hurt when one of them get on their head. If you can build a compact you could build a truck and then there will be bout 35 of them.
On a side note thats why everyone quit running mini stocks (UNSAFE).

One thing i have to agree with you on is with the compacs some have the regular fuel tank and not a fuel cell, that its self is scary to me.

[Racer Kid 31]

I think that instead of saying what the fans want, ask them. Make up surveys when people pay to get in and give it to them and ask them to fill it out. Or have some kind of comment form in the concession stand. And maybe a part on the ssurvey where people can add comments about the facility and then they can give their opinions on what improvments can be made to WRP. People get on here and start telling what the fans want, but i believe that until you ask everybody in the stands, then we dont know what they want. Just and idea

[double checkered]

Compact Racer, I think you proved my point with your post. I think you were referring to the Friday before the big dawg. 4 classes, 21 trucks, 32 mods, 10 compacts, 15 minis, few fans. I wouldn't consider that full pits. Again this is not a bash on any class, but the fans weren't interested in what was being shown that night. I don't have a magic number for car count but my opinion would be high 20's minimum. 30 to 40 would be preferred. You are absolutely right, times are tough for everyone, so I expect car count and fan attendance to be down. But as I've said we are in the entertainment business. I guess you and I can continue to disagree on this topic. Please don't think this as an attack at you. That isn't my intention.

[Need for Speed]

Seems like a no-brainer. If Millstream can't get it done, and there is such a call for it, why not run a Sunday evening show?

I don't believe that would be wise...

Kokomo runs on Sunday evenings, and they run non-wing sprints.

Several times this year they had sprint car counts in the very low 20s, or even below 20.

WRP gets sprint car counts in the high 20s, to mid 30s each week.

Plus take into account: If a guy runs Gas City on Friday, and at one of the 3 other tracks that run non-wing on Saturday night (all of them south of Indy however) they probably want to take a break on Sunday. There is a bit of maintenance that must be done......service the injection, set the valve lash, clean and grease the bars, wash the car, etc, etc., besides just a basic 'going over' to check many items. Plus, possible gear changes, along with shocks, tortion bar, and ride height changes depending on what track you are going to run.

Some guys will/can, swing a 3 race weekend, but not many.

Edited by Need for Speed, 30 September 2010 - 09:46 PM.

[compact racer]

Compact Racer,
I think you proved my point with your post. I think you were referring to the Friday before the big dawg. 4 classes, 21 trucks, 32 mods, 10 compacts, 15 minis, few fans. I wouldn't consider that full pits. Again this is not a bash on any class, but the fans weren't interested in what was being shown that night. I don't have a magic number for car count but my opinion would be high 20's minimum. 30 to 40 would be preferred. You are absolutely right, times are tough for everyone, so I expect car count and fan attendance to be down. But as I've said we are in the entertainment business. I guess you and I can continue to disagree on this topic. Please don't think this as an attack at you. That isn't my intention.

Double checkerd I don't take it as an attack at all. The thing is the only class that was missing is the non wings (wich I do belive to be the premire class at WRP) so if your saying no one was interested in the others I'd say there's big trouble in paradise. Like i said before I don't think there was a class that had 20 plus cars every night. So what are your magic classes? And no I'm not trying to be smart about it as I like to hear everyones opinion.

[double checkered]

There aren't magic classes. We agree the sprints are the headliners. Both winged and non. (In this area.) Its big block modifieds where I grew up. Fans aren't going to pack the stands to watch "support" classes. The only way that sorta works is if you have larger fields of "support" class cars that bring more fans with them. I know that plenty of time and money is put into every type of car on the track. So I'm using the word support class generally. Not trying to say they are a lesser car. But usually they are intended to give lower budget racers or beginners the opportunity to race. The true idea of mods and stocks fall under that definition. So you can't classify them as headliners.

[skip]

I know some will disagree with me but when it comes to Lima, their 3 divisions are like headliners. Even if the stock car class doesnt have to many cars they put on a show. By running these 3 divisions they have pulled in fans every week. Its like there is no support class. All 3 have established themselfs as lima regulars . Some have complained that they need to change their program, but as long as they are putting fans in the stands why change it.

[hoosier race fan]

I don't believe that would be wise...

Kokomo runs on Sunday evenings, and they run non-wing sprints.

Several times this year they had sprint car counts in the very low 20s, or even below 20.

WRP gets sprint car counts in the high 20s, to mid 30s each week.

Plus take into account: If a guy runs Gas City on Friday, and at one of the 3 other tracks that run non-wing on Saturday night (all of them south of Indy however) they probably want to take a break on Sunday. There is a bit of maintenance that must be done......service the injection, set the valve lash, clean and grease the bars, wash the car, etc, etc., besides just a basic 'going over' to check many items. Plus, possible gear changes, along with shocks, tortion bar, and ride height changes depending on what track you are going to run.

Some guys will/can, swing a 3 race weekend, but not many.

Kokomo's car count has been quite a bit lower this season than in the past. Their crowd is always very good though on Sunday nights, which is what Waynesfield seems to be struggling with. I think WRP could still get close to 20 sprints on Sunday's, and I would be willing to bet the crowd would be better than it has been on Saturday nights competing with so many other tracks for spectators. Kokomo is reportedly going to have only 8 races next season, so that might be a factor to consider as well. It's hard to say for sure if switching to Sundays would help WRP's crowd, but it might be worth trying for a few races next season.

[AK1]

Kokomo's car count has been quite a bit lower this season than in the past. Their crowd is always very good though on Sunday nights, which is what Waynesfield seems to be struggling with. I think WRP could still get close to 20 sprints on Sunday's, and I would be willing to bet the crowd would be better than it has been on Saturday nights competing with so many other tracks for spectators. Kokomo is reportedly going to have only 8 races next season, so that might be a factor to consider as well. It's hard to say for sure if switching to Sundays would help WRP's crowd, but it might be worth trying for a few races next season.

Switching to Sundays may not be a good idea with Millstream supposedly running a full season next year.

Edited by AK1, 02 October 2010 - 11:52 AM.

[skip]

With findlays track record i wouldnt bet on a full schedule for next yr. Seeing is believing.

[AK1]

With findlays track record i wouldnt bet on a full schedule for next yr. Seeing is believing.

Findlay's track record under the Roes has been terrible, but now that someone has a signed lease for 3 yrs, I think you're definitely going to see something different, at least til the lease is up.

[patrickw]

that will be sweet lima land friday waynesfield saturday and millstream sunday.

[Need for Speed]

Kokomo's car count has been quite a bit lower this season than in the past. Their crowd is always very good though on Sunday nights, which is what Waynesfield seems to be struggling with. I think WRP could still get close to 20 sprints on Sunday's, and I would be willing to bet the crowd would be better than it has been on Saturday nights competing with so many other tracks for spectators. Kokomo is reportedly going to have only 8 races next season, so that might be a factor to consider as well. It's hard to say for sure if switching to Sundays would help WRP's crowd, but it might be worth trying for a few races next season.

Of all of the posts in this thread, you quote/reply to one of mine.

Your logic has been proven to be wrong before!

Oh, and BTW, how many races did you attend at WRP last year?? Was the grand total less than 1.................

Crawl back under your rock internet troll.

[hoosier race fan]

Of all of the posts in this thread, you quote/reply to one of mine.

Your logic has been proven to be wrong before!

Oh, and BTW, how many races did you attend at WRP last year?? Was the grand total less than 1.................

Crawl back under your rock internet troll.

I quoted your post because you mentioned Kokomo, a track I have been to several times this year. I did not attend any races at WRP this season. If they raced on Sundays I might have. As others have mentioned though, if Millstream does race a full season it wouldn't make sense to move to Sundays.

[compact racer]

One thing i have to agree with you on is with the compacs some have the regular fuel tank and not a fuel cell, that its self is scary to me.

Well Skip I just installed a fuel cell in the son's compact. Removed the tank that was uder the car and put the cell in rear of car. After doing this now I'm more concerned then ever as now I have a cell that has a 35lb pressure pump inside the car now instead of under it. (takes that much pressure to run fuel injecteted engine) Now I'm going to be forced to deck in the car somehow to keep him seperate from cell. These cars are not like a stocker or mod where the pump is on the engine. Not for sure yet if this was a good plan.

[double checkered]

Compact racer, I think you may be looking at your project the wrong way. There is no doubt that you will have to take a little time to do it right, but think about it. You just said that your SON is inside the car. You are going to be making the car much more safe with the time your taking now. I'm pretty sure a few extra hours in the off season will be worth the assurance of your son's protection. I think you're doing it right by putting in a cell.

[skip]

I have to agree with double checkered , what time you spend in the off season getting it right is well worth the time that could be spent in a burn center. Its always better safe than sorry when it comes to a family member. I would have to say you are doing the right thing.

[skinnykenny]

Compact Racer, Back when I ran the bomber/stock cars, my dad came up with a really good idea. We descided to run the fuel line thru the car after it got torn loose from the underneath of the car on a ruff heavy track. Obviously I didn't feel very safe with the fuel line laying on the floor board beside me. We went to the local hardware store and bought a stick of pvc tubing. We ran the pvc straight thru the car and out thru both the front and rear firewalls. That way if anything might start to leak, the fuel would run out of the pvc onto the ground instead of any fuel leaking onto the floor board in the cockpit beside me. I painted the pvc just like the roll cage tubing and it looked just like another part of the cage. We did that with every car I had after that. It was trouble free, very safe, and cheap.

Edited by skinnykenny, 04 October 2010 - 11:16 PM.

[Dr. Speedy]

Also, metal conduit is cheap, and you can bend it. and not likely to crack or burn. Just get it big enough that it fits loosley to slide the line through.

[skip]

Also, metal conduit is cheap, and you can bend it. and not likely to crack or burn. Just get it big enough that it fits loosley to slide the line through.

I like the conduit idea better, its always better safe than sorry. The doctor comes thru and kenny your idea is ok to any thing that helps when it comes to a drivers safety. That taken from some one who sits on a chair and eats hot dogs,