44 replies to this topic

[mmiley]

We will consider reverting right back to the original SIZZLER plan $1000 to win, no entry fee $100 to start, $30 pits. We need to hear from the actual racers who race this division at PPMS, We can't tell who is who on here, email me your feedback directly. mmiley99@comcast.net If the event is not embraced by the division it is for we may as well just run a regular show, we can still honor JOOK. Get the feedback directly to me soon.

[starboyshady]

I think that this is being blown way out of proportion ....... people just want to know what is going on. In advance..... with entry fees, pit passes , and points for that night. (Some specials award WEEKLY POINTS & POINTS FOR THE SERIES,some only award SERIES POINTS) people NEED to know these things.....

[94.3-RADRACER]

we will be there matt. don't worry about the entry, we are coming to win it. not be in the back. you have good and bad nights, but you gotta think win not last. do we time trial like last year.... scott bidwell b1d/21 matt latta crate......

Edited by 94.3-RADRACER, 28 August 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[BUTTBEAK]

The end is near!

[Chuckball5]

While I can see the argument that is presented with the Tow Money / Entry Fee... If this is what it takes to get the Purse raised at the top... I am ALL FOR IT. I'm with you Bidwell. We are coming to win. And if it takes an entry fee of $75 to make it $2,000 to win.. More power to ya!! We'll see you Saturday as long as it's $2,012 to win and we are qualifying... as I understand is the case.

Edited by Chuckball5, 28 August 2012 - 09:56 PM.

[mmiley]

Sure, let's qualify again this year. Sort of forgot we have to make those decisions this year. We will group qualify, then straight up heat starts, then redraw no more than 12 for the feature. Then straight up behind the redraw cars. We will be using the PPMS lucky dog rule for this event, any cars one lap down go to the back and get their lap back as long as they were not the cause of the caution. Cars more than a lap down do not get the lap back and start behind the lead lap cars. All restarts are double file with leader getting lane choice and odd position cars following the lane choice of the leader. Leader fires first on restarts in the fire zone.

[TheLegend]

We will consider reverting right back to the original SIZZLER plan $1000 to win, no entry fee $100 to start, $30 pits.

We need to hear from the actual racers who race this division at PPMS, We can't tell who is who on here, email me your feedback directly. mmiley99@comcast.net

If the event is not embraced by the division it is for we may as well just run a regular show, we can still honor JOOK.

Get the feedback directly to me soon.

2 great ideas in 1 day !!! Thats exactly how it should be have them vote

[LM RACING]

Matt I know im the least favorite of your loyal supporters but please explain why not just deduct 75x the expected number of cars from the purse ??? How does taking someones money and giving it back make an ounce of sense ??? Why not just make it 500 to start with a 475 entry fee ?? or a 1000 to start with a 975 entry fee ?? Dont misunderstand im not suggesting you eliminate the entry fee and pay the purse anyway im suggesting you eliminate the entry fee and drop the purse by the same amount.. everything is even in the end and you have less people pissed at you. You make this claim everyone is " in this together" so why dont you ask the racers to vote if they would rather give you 75 then get an extra 75 or not give you 75 and not get 75 ?? Im sincerly asking this question, if there is some reason im missing please enlighten me

I wondered the same thing and this is what i came up with. The purse was already $1000 to win $100 start. That money is already being spent. With the extra $75 being paid 32 cars will equal $2400. This lets them bump the top end of the purse up without taking away from the start money. If the race was announced at first $1000 to win $100 to start with a $75 fee then you are correct in wondering why they dont just have $25 start/tow. But this money will be on top of the original purse to make it bigger for the top 20 finishers. It is good for the top 15 but bad for 16-32 and non qualifiers. But as you have stated before you dont go to the track without the intention of winning. Hope this helps.

Edited by LM RACING, 29 August 2012 - 09:28 AM.

[BUTTBEAK]

Sure, let's qualify again this year. Sort of forgot we have to make those decisions this year.

We will group qualify, then straight up heat starts, then redraw no more than 12 for the feature. Then straight up behind the redraw cars.

We will be using the PPMS lucky dog rule for this event, any cars one lap down go to the back and get their lap back as long as they were not the cause of the caution. Cars more than a lap down do not get the lap back and start behind the lead lap cars. All restarts are double file with leader getting lane choice and odd position cars following the lane choice of the leader. Leader fires first on restarts in the fire zone.

Sounds like a very good plan.
The original format for the payout and no entry is the way to go, that's how it was advertised and budgeted for by your weekly followers involved and spectating.
If someone wants to come in from outside the regulars its a decent purse, but not a crazy field on the last night of the regular season, a fair shake for your weekly supporters.

Get the Underwood's back whatever it takes!!!

Get the Underwood's back whatever it takes!!!

Dedicated ambassadors like them are hard to come by these days!!!

As you say we are all in this together, and part of the racing family is missing for sure!
They're as much........ or more of a fixture there, than the tether bolts sticking out of the wall!

Edited by BUTTBEAK, 29 August 2012 - 10:16 AM.

[mmiley]

We did get a few emails which I did answer. Thank you to those who put their name behind their opinions. $2012 to win! We will time trial. Then redraw no more than 12 for the feature. Good Luck to all!

[NorthernExposure]

Last year the top 6 qualifiers who transferred through the heat race I believe were locked into the top 6 starting spots for the feature. Wouldn't something like that make sense this year? Or do something like redraw the heat winners.. Then redraw the 2nd place heat finishers? Rather than have a guy quick time.. win his heat... then have to start 12th? Not trying to ruffle feathers... just trying to make it fair for once to the guys who work hard to be fast and then get penalized for it. These guys get shafted all year long on the Fastrak Northeast "Touring Series" by having to pill draw and redraw 12 every night.

[Street Stocker]

This thread proves that crate racers and/or PPMS hardcore supporters aren't too smart. Matt Miley just admitted they will only pay a higher purse if the racer funds it. The $1,000 to win is already funded by the jacked up pit price. Now its $2,000 funded by an entry fee. Things must be getting desperate at PPMS judging by their recent price hikes. But yet the blind sheep keep on supporting them. Hummingbird is paying us more next weekend without this crap. Lernerville socks it to us sometimes but never like this track.

Edited by Street Stocker, 29 August 2012 - 01:12 PM.

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

This thread proves that crate racers and/or PPMS hardcore supporters aren't too smart. Matt Miley just admitted they will only pay a higher purse if the racer funds it. The $1,000 to win is already funded by the jacked up pit price. Now its $2,000 funded by an entry fee. Things must be getting desperate at PPMS judging by their recent price hikes. But yet the blind sheep keep on supporting them. Hummingbird is paying us more next weekend without this crap. Lernerville socks it to us sometimes but never like this track.

stay at hummingbird and keep your opinions there as well.

[Street Stocker]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaah says the blind sheep.

[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaah Baaaaaaaaaaaaah says the blind sheep.

you race at Hummingbird.... point proven

[NorthernExposure]

We support races that pay more and are willing to give teams a REAL EQUAL CHANCE at winning... I have no problem with raising the pit price and having an entry fee (seems pretty standard of all big events). Especially if you are going to time trial and pay out more to the top 10. Where I have a problem is penalizing teams that work hard to be fast and spend countless hours making their stuff right by pill drawing or redrawing half the field every night. Last time I checked... everybody has an equal opportunity to be fast. So why not make you earn your starting spot and finishing spot rather than have it come down to luck of the draw. This is a good thing you guys are doing Mr. Miley.. I will support it all day long.

[racer67x]

the Jook George race always had basically the same format as last weeks Laboon Memorial... pill draw for the heats,top 6 out of the heats run a dash and the feature lines straight up from there..B main if needed. I won the dash for the 40 lapper in '01 and '02 and started on the pole both years,not sure when it was changed to the Casino "Luck of the Draw" method.

[Tommy]

the Jook George race always had basically the same format as last weeks Laboon Memorial...
pill draw for the heats,top 6 out of the heats run a dash and the feature lines straight up from there..B main if needed.
I won the dash for the 40 lapper in '01 and '02 and started on the pole both years,not sure when it was changed to the Casino "Luck of the Draw" method.

02 or 03 was the last year for the dash

[arsnyder16]

We support races that pay more and are willing to give teams a REAL EQUAL CHANCE at winning... I have no problem with raising the pit price and having an entry fee (seems pretty standard of all big events). Especially if you are going to time trial and pay out more to the top 10.

Where I have a problem is penalizing teams that work hard to be fast and spend countless hours making their stuff right by pill drawing or redrawing half the field every night. Last time I checked... everybody has an equal opportunity to be fast. So why not make you earn your starting spot and finishing spot rather than have it come down to luck of the draw.

This is a good thing you guys are doing Mr. Miley.. I will support it all day long.

Unfortunately Fastrak Series doesn't get it. They don't think you should earn starting spots, but rather they should be handed out like participation ribbons.

Everybody wins!

[arsnyder16]

02 or 03 was the last year for the dash

There was a dash last year

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