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[dirtL8MdlFan21&11]

you ppms lovers just don't get it.

every track has issues, what matters is that the racing is the most important thing. at the end of the night the only thing that people should be talking about is the racing.

when the circus becomes the primary focus week after week above and beyond the racing, the place has issues.

"it's mind bottling"

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

[tjtrackrabbit]

All is not lost !!! Look on the bright side " the pennsylvana hole beater" jonny huck will be an action rain or shine as always building the next trex pro platinum national deck of the year candidate !!!

GO GITTIM HUCK !!!

[Aron41D]

Only time I lick windows is if something tasty is smeared on it fool!!! And mind bottling is not a real "term" you are quoting a joke from the movie blades of glory..will ferill pretty much coined that term. And you people miss the point that the owner/promoter is on here all the time. First of very unprofessional from the get go. Show me one other promoter that argues on message boards.. Zero. 90% of posts on here are from idiots so I'm not forming my opinion from other posts entirely. And yes every track has issues and stuff people don't like. And I see wy more than just ppms being bashed on this board. Every track in operation is tore apart on this board so saying ppms is being singled out is bullshit

[JSTLateModelFan]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Well said. I've noticed what others have charged for specials and PPMS is not out of range.

And the weather looks ugly this weekend. Chilly, breezy Saturday evening with temps falling through the 40s. No thanks, and Im sure many people will decide to stay warm...which means a low fan turnout.

There will be plenty of warm, pleasant days in 2013 for racing. Remember, the season used to end there with the Pittsburgher. I see it as a bonus to go to the races after the 3rd week of September...if it's warm enough.

The shows were, for the most part, exciting and enjoyable this year. It was cool to bring the super series back, and the late model teams seemed to respond well. Next year, I'd love to see them kick up the sprint show a notch and run an All Star or WoO show.

The place would be packed for a sanctioned sprint show.

[7wbedford55]

If ppms is a no go i'll just go to Port Royal sat. 305 sprintcars 60+ pre-register + 358 late models 1,000 to win. Weather looks promising 50% chance of rain AM 0% PM. Looks like a good one!

[sundance]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Actually Andy The facts are Sprints, LM, and Mods are $3,000 to win each. The crates are $2,000 and the Emods, Stocks and the Enduro are $1,000 to win. Additionally the 305 Sprints, Mod Lites and 4 cyl are $500 to win.

Your friendly fact checker.

[Scoop0]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

LOL the the biggest Miley a$$ kicker on thus board has to bash other tracks to defend that he!!hole.

[BUDWEISER75]

i'm glad they cancel now like they did instead of get there pay the 35 bucks to get in and then have them cancel.

Im surprised they did...i figured they woulda opened ran the yg feature then called it a nite

[BUDWEISER75]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Ok...im pretty sure that all the "ppms bashers" either A: dont go to watch and or race at the above mentioned tracks on a regular basis as they are a haul & B: have been burned 1 to many times at the closest track within their budget.....jmo....

[Tony76]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Why is it that no one else is allowed to have an opinion or a complaint about something that you don't agree with without having to hear your constant bitching towards them and you have to say "they don't get it" or they are "wrong". Explain to me how the hell what you think is the only opinion that is correct and everyone else is always wrong. It's really getting old seeing you on here constantly bitching at people for having an opinion. Why don't you just shut the hell up and do something useful for once in your life instead of being a little bitch on here all the time. In case you haven't noticed, there is more people on this board that annoyed/upset/mad or whatever else towards PPMS than you and the couple that come on here and defend them. Get a life dude, it's old.

[George Costanza]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Problems at other tracks are hardly ignored on here...

Lernerville gets bashed on a weekly basis for any and everything whether it is an issue or not

Hesston doesn't actually ever run races it seems so nobody gets to worked up

Tyler County isn't really in the area, while I do remember reading that it's probably just more or less nobody cares

You have to admit the issues at PPMS have been pretty constant this season, while I myself have seen some good races there and enjoy a visit from time to time...just seems there are quite a few issues that need ironed out.

[Sparkler]

you ppms haters also just dont get it. It just isnt ppms that has issues every track does you are right. But everybody just focuses on what ppms does for whatever reason. People complained about the 70 dollar pit pass for the weekend, well Lernerville is 60 and you dont get a 10,000 dollar late model race, and the top 3 divisions are only 2,000 to win, and it is the same format just with a lot more classes that people arent paying to see anyways.

Tyler County supposedly hasnt paid anybody or given rainchecks for the big race they had, nobody talked about that when The Legend brought it up, everyone just ignored it.

Hesston seems to have an ever changing race with "The Ultimate" and its all made up to be a facade for what the actual race is. There are asterisks and stars and small print all over their flyers, but nobody really has mentioned anything about them combining purses and advertising it as one major purse.

How about the DTWC Modified race all of a sudden changing rule packages a few weeks before the race? Nobody said anything about that either.

Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but when they are constantly only focused on ppms and ignore other tracks doing the same things and practices it is a little unfair. I will be the first to admit ppms did a lot of odd-ball things and some I didnt agree with, but so did a lot of other tracks, and it wont stop me from going to any of those racetracks. And if some message board banter stops you from going to a racetrack and experiencing it, that is not fair to local racetracks.

Its 3,000$ to win, quit your bitcing, you'll be at lernerville like the rest of us for one last race.

[lrnvlFan1w]

Sheetz gas was $3.95 today when I left my house. Drove 2 miles and 7-Eleven was $3.79 drove 3 miles in the other direction and Country Town was $3.78. Went home past Sheetz gas was still $3.95. Ran out of gas in the tractor left my house drove past Sheetz and they lowered there price to $3.93 so I went to Country Town and paid $3.78. WTF! Figured I would just join in on the complaining... I'm sure it's the Miley's fault somehow.

[Sparkler]

Sheetz gas was $3.95 today when I left my house. Drove 2 miles and 7-Eleven was $3.79 drove 3 miles in the other direction and Country Town was $3.78. Went home past Sheetz gas was still $3.95. Ran out of gas in the tractor left my house drove past Sheetz and they lowered there price to $3.93 so I went to Country Town and paid $3.78.

WTF!

Figured I would just join in on the complaining...

I'm sure it's the Miley's fault somehow.

Should have made a sheetz run and if your a member you can save 3 cents off per gallon for a price of $3.90

[BaconBits]

I like PPMS a lot. The racing is usually excellent the last five or so years. It can be pricey sometimes, but whatever, I'm not scrounging for cash. They make some questionable decisions out there, no doubt, but I do my best to ignore em and enjoy the races. A wise sage on another non-racing related board I read once made a statement that I can modify to fit this and other situations where people spend a lot of time complaining or defending whatever track or race. Go to the races. Enjoy. Repeat the next weekend. It's not that complicated.

[flash49]

I like PPMS a lot. The racing is usually excellent the last five or so years. It can be pricey sometimes, but whatever, I'm not scrounging for cash.

They make some questionable decisions out there, no doubt, but I do my best to ignore em and enjoy the races.

A wise sage on another non-racing related board I read once made a statement that I can modify to fit this and other situations where people spend a lot of time complaining or defending whatever track or race.

Go to the races. Enjoy. Repeat the next weekend. It's not that complicated.

You make way too much sense, therefore this post is totally inappropriate advice for this forum. Regardless what track is being discussed, when the slightest thing goes wrong at any venue, some folks can't wait to race home and start bitchin'. I saw two of the very worst DTWC races at Bardstown in the early 2000s, but a bad day at the races is so much better than just about anything else.

[Vigoda Motorsports]

I for one would just like to hear Matt's explanation of the nepotism shown at the Pittsburgher.

[flash49]

I for one would just like to hear Matt's explanation of the nepotism shown at the Pittsburgher.

There is no explanation, it was a bad call.

[lrnvlFan1w]

Should have made a sheetz run and if your a member you can save 3 cents off per gallon for a price of $3.90

Pay $3.90 when the gas 2 miles away was $3.78...

Guess they have to pay for that Sheetz card somehow...

[Dirt_track_chaser]

It is such a shame that the weather is so terrible today.