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[greaseball]

Heard at Blunder Mountain that they are opening up the Late Models to Aluminum blocks. Street Stocks 358 cube on 8in. tires, pure stocks are to be PURE STOCK and so are the front wheel drives.

[bigt]

Heard at Blunder Mountain that they are opening up the Late Models to Aluminum blocks. Street Stocks 358 cube on 8in. tires, pure stocks are to be PURE STOCK and so are the front wheel drives.

ABOUT TIME , LETS HOPE THIS IS TRUE ,,, BUT LETS ADD TO THE RUMOR CRATE LATES WILL BE ALSO ADDED RUNNING FOR
$1K WEEKLY

[racerxcrewchief]

Now that's funny.

[Dingo]

Heard at Blunder Mountain that they are opening up the Late Models to Aluminum blocks. Street Stocks 358 cube on 8in. tires, pure stocks are to be PURE STOCK and so are the front wheel drives.

Define PURE STOCK??

[suhoney18]

don't know if this is true or not but i did see on facebook that kevin stepped down from tech...so who knows....

[snooky]

Hummingbirds pures are already pretty limited. If they change at least we can go to gamblers. IF they are gonna do anything it should be announced soon to give teams time

[racerxcrewchief]

Hummingbirds pures are already pretty limited. If they change at least we can go to gamblers. IF they are gonna do anything it should be announced soon to give teams time

Relax. Nothing is going to change. This talk does not start till around Christmas.Most of the time. But I guess we're kickin it off early

[animalgfx]

Relax. Nothing is going to change. This talk does not start till around Christmas.Most of the time. But I guess we're kickin it off early

[nash man]

the only thing that is gonna change there is .......................NOTHING AT ALL

[gofast05]

kevin stepped down from tech because he had alot of ideas for changes to the rules and louie didn't want anything to do with changes. don't get all your hopes up. it'll be the same next year as it was last year. if they were to change the street stock class....they wouldn't get any cars. noone is going to want to build a new motor just to race at hummingbird when they can just go to america's and run what they have. and opening up the late models wouldn't make any sense. you'd get a couple supers and noone else their could compete. again alot of those guys are on a budget and won't want to, or won't be able to make the changes to compete. pure stocks would be okay to take them back to "pure stock". run the on recaps or DOT tires with Steel Bodies. same with fwd's. STOCK cars with cages. if they wanted to make a 358 cube class on 8's, call them street stocks but add another class and call them Super Stocks. 406 cube limit on 10's like the street stocks are now. i don't see them making any changes though.

[dylchris]

The only difference between a steel block late and an "open Late" is the compositon of the block. Every team that wanted to run the other advanced componenets; suspension, ball spline transmissons, gas shocks, carbon fiber driveshafts, lightweight brake and drive train componenets are already doing it. The engine package at Hummingbird, Marion Center, and America's will have very little to do with who the winner is. There are already many 11, 13, and 18 degree as well SB2 engines running in the steel block class, it is in no way a limited class. There are more nights that a smaller engine package will be of benefit than a large engine package. Lastly, you can speak to almost any engine builder and they will assure you that they can make as much power or more out of a Steel Block engine, compared to an aluminum block engine. The only variation is the weight of the block; and when the weight rule is 2350 or 2400 pounds, it is all equal.

[gofast05]

The only difference between a steel block late and an "open Late" is the compositon of the block. Every team that wanted to run the other advanced componenets; suspension, ball spline transmissons, gas shocks, carbon fiber driveshafts, lightweight brake and drive train componenets are already doing it. The engine package at Hummingbird, Marion Center, and America's will have very little to do with who the winner is. There are already many 11, 13, and 18 degree as well SB2 engines running in the steel block class, it is in no way a limited class. There are more nights that a smaller engine package will be of benefit than a large engine package.

Lastly, you can speak to almost any engine builder and they will assure you that they can make as much power or more out of a Steel Block engine, compared to an aluminum block engine. The only variation is the weight of the block; and when the weight rule is 2350 or 2400 pounds, it is all equal.

i can agree with that. never really thought of it like that. hell even at hesston the other week billy dickson was running a steel block and he ran pretty good with the supers

Edited by gofast05, 23 October 2012 - 09:40 AM.

[CHEVY1A]

Maybe there just looking for an excuse to shut down like lack of cars. Its not like letting aluminum block cars in is going to double the car count. Unless they raise their payout pretty good, their not going to get anyone. Reading Marion Centers results this season I see they only averaged 14 cars a week in the supers, so where do they think there going to get any more cars at? And those street and pure stock rules sound like Roaring Knob rules, doubt your going to see many guys make the tow from that way for a couple hundred bucks.

[dylchris]

I agree Chevy; actually the strongest car count every week was the Steel Block class; probably 20 or more on average. I do not think it will be shutting down any time soon either; the car counts have gone from 115 to 65 and the 50 lost cars were not just the rwd four cylinders, and it still keeps going. The fan count has been very steady since re-opening.

Maybe there just looking for an excuse to shut down like lack of cars. Its not like letting aluminum block cars in is going to double the car count. Unless they raise their payout pretty good, their not going to get anyone. Reading Marion Centers results this season I see they only averaged 14 cars a week in the supers, so where do they think there going to get any more cars at? And those street and pure stock rules sound like Roaring Knob rules, doubt your going to see many guys make the tow from that way for a couple hundred bucks.

[MrFabricator]

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[animalgfx]

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I was simply responding to what racerxcrewchief said... Because he nailed it!! This happens every year.. Its just starting early..

[99xbeimel]

The only difference between a steel block late and an "open Late" is the compositon of the block. Every team that wanted to run the other advanced componenets; suspension, ball spline transmissons, gas shocks, carbon fiber driveshafts, lightweight brake and drive train componenets are already doing it. The engine package at Hummingbird, Marion Center, and America's will have very little to do with who the winner is. There are already many 11, 13, and 18 degree as well SB2 engines running in the steel block class, it is in no way a limited class. There are more nights that a smaller engine package will be of benefit than a large engine package.

Lastly, you can speak to almost any engine builder and they will assure you that they can make as much power or more out of a Steel Block engine, compared to an aluminum block engine. The only variation is the weight of the block; and when the weight rule is 2350 or 2400 pounds, it is all equal.

dont fortget some 9' heads scott!

[powerplant]

The only difference between a steel block late and an "open Late" is the compositon of the block. Every team that wanted to run the other advanced componenets; suspension, ball spline transmissons, gas shocks, carbon fiber driveshafts, lightweight brake and drive train componenets are already doing it. The engine package at Hummingbird, Marion Center, and America's will have very little to do with who the winner is. There are already many 11, 13, and 18 degree as well SB2 engines running in the steel block class, it is in no way a limited class. There are more nights that a smaller engine package will be of benefit than a large engine package.

Lastly, you can speak to almost any engine builder and they will assure you that they can make as much power or more out of a Steel Block engine, compared to an aluminum block engine. The only variation is the weight of the block; and when the weight rule is 2350 or 2400 pounds, it is all equal.

there were aluminum block motors that ran at hummingbird all season long and nothing was said

[Wide Open Racing #10]

there were aluminum block motors that ran at hummingbird all season long and nothing was said

Glad ill prob never spend another dime at the bird

[greaseball]

There was not 1 illegal car at Hummingbird this year.