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#41 maxx3773

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

i dont post here often but i have to give it to you LEGEND you know how to bring out the best in everybody. I really enjoy your sarcasm and posts. Some people sit and watch while some get out and do. Our team has raced at PPMS with zero success in the last few years, two blown motors and a junked race car in the last 3 times we have been there. Does that mean we suck, no because we have plenty of success where ever we go. One track does not define your success, nor should one track limit your ability. I applaud anyone who is able to go out and race against the best in the country, some people see it as failure and some people will see it as a success. Our team would rather run against the best competition week in and week out and try and improve ourselves than to dominate a weekly track with lesser competition. So to all those arm chair racers out there suit up, belt in or at least climb off your couch and work on a car!

A buddy of the holebeater?sure sounds so to me...You sound just like him..What makes PMS that "special"track.. Its allabout location,why would sumbody wanna tow to the beloved PMS if we have a closer track?



 

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

never met the guy but you cant trash him because he is doing what is best for his career. If he wants to run at eldora run with the woo or lucas and struggle then thats on him. if you wanna run hummingbird and are happy then so be it. As i stated we enjoy racing against the best in pa ohio and ny. running weekly against the likes of saterlee, davies bros., miley, boom, barton, blair, knight, hess etc... some nights we beat them and some nights we get beat but over all "I" feel to get better you must race against the best in the business night in and night out. Also you should not be disparaged for wanting to run your local track. So again let the arm chair and couch racers run their keyboards and let the rest of us that actually race put the show on for you!


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:30 AM

never met the guy but you cant trash him because he is doing what is best for his career. If he wants to run at eldora run with the woo or lucas and struggle then thats on him. if you wanna run hummingbird and are happy then so be it. As i stated we enjoy racing against the best in pa ohio and ny. running weekly against the likes of saterlee, davies bros., miley, boom, barton, blair, knight, hess etc... some nights we beat them and some nights we get beat but over all "I" feel to get better you must race against the best in the business night in and night out. Also you should not be disparaged for wanting to run your local track. So again let the arm chair and couch racers run their keyboards and let the rest of us that actually race put the show on for you!

This is the point I was trying to make , I just have a more politically incorrect ,potentially offensive way of saying it ..


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 07:38 AM

King, I totally agree with you on traveling to gain experience racing with the top caliber racers; actually you need not go much further than the Norhtern Tier to get a humbling but rewarding assessment of where you are in respect to some of the best. The only problem I have is degrading an entire race track you have never visited or raced at is pretty ignorant. The cars at the back woods hummingbird have some pretty good credentials. Like him or not Luke Hoffner will be regarded as one of the best out of the state of PA; he has won 150 plus or minus A Mains; yes the most recent 40 or so are at smaller bullrings, but the cost of the sport forced him to re-evvaluate his racing program. Luke competes wherever he unloads; he just is not funded like the top teams; and in general, that is the same for most of our local drivers in Central PA. I never trashed him for traveling; he asked what Hummingbird car would be a top 5 where he raced; the point we were trying to make was; how many top 5's or how competitive he was in those races he expected the bird cars to be top 5.

never met the guy but you cant trash him because he is doing what is best for his career. If he wants to run at eldora run with the woo or lucas and struggle then thats on him. if you wanna run hummingbird and are happy then so be it. As i stated we enjoy racing against the best in pa ohio and ny. running weekly against the likes of saterlee, davies bros., miley, boom, barton, blair, knight, hess etc... some nights we beat them and some nights we get beat but over all "I" feel to get better you must race against the best in the business night in and night out. Also you should not be disparaged for wanting to run your local track. So again let the arm chair and couch racers run their keyboards and let the rest of us that actually race put the show on for you!




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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

King, I totally agree with you on traveling to gain experience racing with the top caliber racers; actually you need not go much further than the Norhtern Tier to get a humbling but rewarding assessment of where you are in respect to some of the best. The only problem I have is degrading an entire race track you have never visited or raced at is pretty ignorant. The cars at the back woods hummingbird have some pretty good credentials. Like him or not Luke Hoffner will be regarded as one of the best out of the state of PA; he has won 150 plus or minus A Mains; yes the most recent 40 or so are at smaller bullrings, but the cost of the sport forced him to re-evvaluate his racing program. Luke competes wherever he unloads; he just is not funded like the top teams; and in general, that is the same for most of our local drivers in Central PA. I never trashed him for traveling; he asked what Hummingbird car would be a top 5 where he raced; the point we were trying to make was; how many top 5's or how competitive he was in those races he expected the bird cars to be top 5.

I have finished in the top 5 at pittsburgh , and none of your hummingbird limited lates can claim that. I have talked to several people who race at hummingbird bird and everyone except for you agrees with my assessment of the facility. They all say its a demo derby for 600 to win ... Im not talking down your precious hummingbird speedway but I wont allow your winning there to give you a more relevent opinion than mine on any subject.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:24 AM

Yeah I saw you had A top 5 finish there also about 4 top tens. I wish the PPMS website had all results available; based off of what they have. Our last win there was against some pretty tough competition; some Southern cars, Some Northern cars and of course the sub-par group from the area.

I have finished in the top 5 at pittsburgh , and none of your hummingbird limited lates can claim that. I have talked to several people who race at hummingbird bird and everyone except for you agrees with my assessment of the facility. They all say its a demo derby for 600 to win ... Im not talking down your precious hummingbird speedway but I wont allow your winning there to give you a more relevent opinion than mine on any subject.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

some of the hummingbird cars are pretty good, but they race with a lot of junk and its a very small track compared to pittsburgh .. thats why its a demo.. but you gotta be good to win there,,, little luck will help also.


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

some of the hummingbird cars are pretty good, but they race with a lot of junk and its a very small track compared to pittsburgh .. thats why its a demo.. but you gotta be good to win there,,, little luck will help also.

This new mega event Pittsburgh is having in October after hummingbird closes seems like a great opportunity for these hummingbird cars to come show me how fast they are ... Open tires rules ... Just sayin ...


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

We will be there, actually we will be racing with you quite a bit this year. Wanna make a wager the old back woods guy beats the PA hole Beater? The $1,000.00 offer is still open.

This new mega event Pittsburgh is having in October after hummingbird closes seems like a great opportunity for these hummingbird cars to come show me how fast they are ... Open tires rules ... Just sayin ...


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:42 AM

We will be there, actually we will be racing with you quite a bit this year. Wanna make a wager the old back woods guy beats the PA hole Beater? The $1,000.00 offer is still open.

What are the stipulations ?


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:53 AM

pick a neutral site; pick an event I don't care.

What are the stipulations ?




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Posted 20 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

pick a neutral site; pick an event I don't care.

Eldora dream or world ...


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:22 PM

we wont be towing to Indiana; is there a track in PA or an event in PA you feel good about.

Eldora dream or world ...




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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

we wont be towing to Indiana; is there a track in PA or an event in PA you feel good about.

Eldora is in Ohio , but anyway .. I already suggested the firecracker and you said no ... There's a couple big events at WVMS this year ...


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:31 PM

that's fine. The firecracker requires the UMP tires, for a team racing AR' to go there it will cost a lot of money for the tires. Are you racing PPMS?

Eldora is in Ohio , but anyway .. I already suggested the firecracker and you said no ... There's a couple big events at WVMS this year ...




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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

that's fine. The firecracker requires the UMP tires, for a team racing AR' to go there it will cost a lot of money for the tires. Are you racing PPMS?

I will be at all ppms special events , not many weekly shows


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:35 PM

This new mega event Pittsburgh is having in October after hummingbird closes seems like a great opportunity for these hummingbird cars to come show me how fast they are ... Open tires rules ... Just sayin ...

Hummingbird cars are steelblocks you run an aluminum block right? Why dont you come up to the special open show at the end ofyear at hummingbird and show themwhat you got?i bet ALOT of the steel blocks would smoke ya so i can see why you wouldnt wanna show up..


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

Hummingbird cars are steelblocks you run an aluminum block right? Why dont you come up to the special open show at the end ofyear at hummingbird and show themwhat you got?i bet ALOT of the steel blocks would smoke ya so i can see why you wouldnt wanna show up..

Dude I keep my car in car show condition all year , I'm not coming to your demo derby that pays what 1200 to win ?


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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

The 69 car does always look good. I know you have pride, but I do not understand why you take a shot at a group of drivers you never raced with; and more so if your own efforts weren't good. Really I looked at every results page posted at PPMS and every show I knew you attended and I found 4 top 10's in 50 events or so and 2 of those were 11 car mains, and one top 5, unless I am missing something; I do not get it. What makes you the expert?

best wishes for the upcoming season, I will see if we can make it to PPMS enough to race with you.

Dude I keep my car in car show condition all year , I'm not coming to your demo derby that pays what 1200 to win ?




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Posted 20 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

we wont be towing to Indiana; is there a track in PA or an event in PA you feel good about.

The Chiller Thriller isnt all that far away at MRP.. Either of your teams planning on attending this show? Lets not wait all year for the suspense!!





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