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[fastrakpr]

FASTRAK Companies International Takes STRONG STANCE against Exotic Fuels **FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE** June 12th, 2013 FASTRAK PR (Carnesville, Georgia) – "I’m tired of it said series" Founder Stan Lester. "That’s pretty simple. This $35 a gallon fuel going on in this series. Every series knows it’s happening, but once again we will take the lead on doing something about it. They can copy us like they usually do when we finish". "We are going to catch you period. This series was created to lower the cost of racing and $35 a gallon fuel is putting people out of racing once again. We tried the honor system and that didn't work so now we are going after people that are using it. We will significantly increase fines and let them have a little time off from the series". "We have been doing a significant amount of testing with different meters, kits, etc. If we have too, we will come up with a specific gravity number. We will do whatever it takes to stop this and sooner than later Stay tuned to www.fastrakracing.com as well as the FASTRAK Racing Series Fan Page on Facebook and/or follow @FASTRAK_Racing on Twitter to get up to the minute news and details as they become available. FASTRAK Companies International would like to thank all of its marketing partners for their great and continuing support. Those 2013 FASTRAK Southeast/Mideast sponsors include: Hoosier Race Tires, VP Racing Fuel, City Chevrolet, Chevrolet Performance Parts, Vicci Apparel, TNT Race Cars, Rocket Chassis and RockAuto.com to our line-up of product sponsors. If you are interested in becoming a sponsor of the Premier Pro Late Model Series in the Country please contact Stan Lester at the FASTRAK Corporate Office at (678) 935-7304 or Brian Haynes at (706) 340-4781. Also Visit the FASTRAK Racing Series online at www.fastrakracing.com and be sure to like us on Facebook and/or follow us on Twitter at @FASTRAK_Racing!!

[BUTTBEAK]

Who makes the fuel that's been banned, and what is it called? Whats in it that makes it so expensive? Does it have a distinctive smell? Definitely a good move on FASTRAK's part, seems there is always something coming up attempting to make this division expensive and give higher $ teams an advantage, policeing this will take diligent inspection of ALL competitors.

[RocketChassis#1]

Originally the crates ran on pump gas when the class started, which also was suppose to be a cost savings when the class started. But not long after VP and other racing fuel companies developed "Crate" fuel, and now the everyone runs that, and spend almost as much as the Super Lates do. "Crate" racing fuel should have never been allowed, period. Get them back on pump gas.

[KartRacer1]

Who makes the fuel that's been banned, and what is it called?

Whats in it that makes it so expensive?

Does it have a distinctive smell?

Definitely a good move on FASTRAK's part, seems there is always something coming up attempting to make this division expensive and give higher $ teams an advantage, policeing this will take diligent inspection of ALL competitors.

http://www.vpracingf...cing-fuels.html


It is the CHP Blend.They had a similar gas that was used when we raced karts that would meet the octane rating but was more oxidized and provided additional power on they dyno as well as lower tempatures. That was priced at $27 a gallon back in 2009 but it had a distinctive color so it could be noticed fairly easily.

[BUTTBEAK]

Isn't VP a FASTRAK series sponsor? I've never paid anywhere near that for good open late model fuel, EVER! Is it really selling for $35/gal?

[KartRacer1]

Isn't VP a FASTRAK series sponsor?



I've never paid anywhere near that for good open late model fuel, EVER!

Is it really selling for $35/gal?

Well one thing you have to remember to is these motors are running on such limited compression compared to a open motor or even for that fact the old limited late model engines. So these oxidized fuels like this are formulated for lower compression engines to get power through the narrower power band as well as being more consistent than pump gas. Like I said before when we raced karts, we were using pump gas and the biggest issue was using the new E-10 gasoline. We would have issues with water contamination between various stations. Fuels like this are much more consistent as well meaning that your going to get the same performance.

[scruffy1a]

FASTRAK Companies International Takes STRONG STANCE against Exotic Fuels
**FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE** June 12th, 2013 FASTRAK PR

(Carnesville, Georgia) – "I’m tired of it said series" Founder Stan Lester. "That’s pretty simple. This $35 a gallon fuel going on in this series. Every series knows it’s happening, but once again we will take the lead on doing something about it. They can copy us like they usually do when we finish".

"We are going to catch you period. This series was created to lower the cost of racing and $35 a gallon fuel is putting people out of racing once again. We tried the honor system and that didn't work so now we are going after people that are using it. We will significantly increase fines and let them have a little time off from the series".

"We have been doing a significant amount of testing with different meters, kits, etc. If we have too, we will come up with a specific gravity number. We will do whatever it takes to stop this and sooner than later

If another series announced a "STRONG STANCE" on this issue first, should they be upset with you for not doing it? You mention being the first and best series but seem irritated to be the one to pioneer this rule, which is conflicting.

I see a specific gravity number of 750 in the rules. Does this fuel not conform? Or is that rule newer than this press release?

I guess I just don't understand the defensive tone of the press release. The threats and negative connotations don't seem necessary to establish and enforce a rule.

[WildChild6crewchief]

The VP CHP is crate fuel and yes VP is a series sponsor. NO it does not cost $35 per gallon. NO it is not exotic and NO VP CHP is not the fuel that has been termed as "exotic" and VP CHP has not been banned.

[BUTTBEAK]

The VP CHP is crate fuel and yes VP is a series sponsor. NO it does not cost $35 per gallon. NO it is not exotic and NO VP CHP is not the fuel that has been termed as "exotic" and VP CHP has not been banned.

So what is the $35/gal fuel?

[BUTTBEAK]

HELLO! What is this banned $35/gallon fuel and who makes it? FASTRAK bans a fuel ....that sells for $35/gal....that has no name or manufactuer? So any fuel that does not sell for $35/gal is legal? No wonder your ass is half way underwater, half of what you do and say is half ass on the tech end! GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!

[IMPERIALTIRE11]

So the VP CHP fuel at 17$ a gallon is cost effective ?????? When this crate deal came out the big thing was you cld run it on pump gas to save $$$

Edited by IMPERIALTIRE11, 18 June 2013 - 11:16 AM.

[Paul55]

[quote name='IMPERIALTIRE11' date='Jun 18 2013, 12:11 PM' post='368245']
So the VP CHP fuel at 17$ a gallon is cost effective ?????? When this crate deal came out the big thing was you cld run it on pump gas to save $$$

Lol wait guys see what the new valve springs cost. If u bought them last week u got.them about $100.00 cheaper then this week lmao!

[KnuckleBall]

They need to make a rule pump gas only ! CHP is expensive as hell compared to pump gas.

[94.3-RADRACER]

we run nothing but sheetz 93..... you tell me if we get beat on restarts....

[BUTTBEAK]

OK I investigated this and here is what I found.

This is what I assume to be the 'banned fuel". RM CRATE 108 ELITE

http://www.renegadep...de/?page_id=876

And then CHP:

http://www.vpracingf...cing-fuels.html

http://www.vpracingf...spec sheet.html
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Neither meets the SG .750 spec.... per fastrack rules.


WTF???

Someone care to clarify???????????

Edited by BUTTBEAK, 18 June 2013 - 09:11 PM.

[signman ed]

To me most importantly, is that is not supposed to be touched by hand, without gloves, due to the fact that it is very cancer-causing. There were some stocks running it at Sharon last year. It had a very distinctive smell. If it isn't safe to be on your skin, how safe can it be inhaling it? Stupid fuel........ no need for it, period!

[DavyLee2]

If another series announced a "STRONG STANCE" on this issue first, should they be upset with you for not doing it? You mention being the first and best series but seem irritated to be the one to pioneer this rule, which is conflicting.

I see a specific gravity number of 750 in the rules. Does this fuel not conform? Or is that rule newer than this press release?

I guess I just don't understand the defensive tone of the press release. The threats and negative connotations don't seem necessary to establish and enforce a rule.

Your right on this one scruffy .. he sounds mad and revengefull ... just like Nascar ! thats why his series has the best reputation for rules .He has several documented cases of guys from other series ( and in his own) that think they can bring their illegal stuff over and race with him .. The motors were a nightmare a couple years ago for example. but after a couple 50K fines to motor builders etc .. I guess they are cheatin in the gastank now lol .Always gonna be somethin

Edited by DavyLee2, 18 June 2013 - 10:09 PM.

[brad hibbard]

OK I investigated this and here is what I found.

This is what I assume to be the 'banned fuel". RM CRATE 108 ELITE

http://www.renegadep...de/?page_id=876

And then CHP:

http://www.vpracingf...cing-fuels.html

http://www.vpracingf...spec sheet.html
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Neither meets the SG .750 spec.... per fastrack rules.


WTF???

Someone care to clarify???????????

FASTRAK specific gravity rule is 750 MAXIMUM------really not sure what your question is----everything you have quoted is around 725----

the 750 number is for everything except E-85 (just to be clear)

Edited by brad hibbard, 19 June 2013 - 07:43 AM.

[BUTTBEAK]

FASTRAK specific gravity rule is 750 MAXIMUM------really not sure what your question is----everything you have quoted is around 725----

the 750 number is for everything except E-85 (just to be clear)

------really not sure what your question is----

What is the fuel this press release is referring to? Is that clear enough?

[Paul55]

Guess the rush series don't care if we run it lmao!