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#21 BUTTBEAK

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 09:38 AM

I didnt see the crash I was too busy watching ms Mario cart loop it all by herself as usuall

I was watching the same, as where most.

That tire has some indeterminable connection to the 0 car for some reason.



 

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 10:15 AM

Wasn't there, don't know what happened, but I fail to see the logic behind putting those types of tires around the inside of any race track. I'm guessing these tires probably weigh more than any of the race cars. I've seen quite a few cars destroyed over the years because of someone's brilliant idea. If the logic is to protect those in the infield, then put a second guardrail around, similar to a safer barrier. If the intent is to keep cars from running "below the line", then use car tires, buried around the inside to mark the track. Its hard enough sometimes to see your competitors out there, let alone try to dodge some huge, semi-immovable object. Just sayin.

What you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. But it cost money to do these things. And we are talking about PPMS. End of story.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 11:10 AM

Wasn't there, don't know what happened, but I fail to see the logic behind putting those types of tires around the inside of any race track. I'm guessing these tires probably weigh more than any of the race cars. I've seen quite a few cars destroyed over the years because of someone's brilliant idea. If the logic is to protect those in the infield, then put a second guardrail around, similar to a safer barrier. If the intent is to keep cars from running "below the line", then use car tires, buried around the inside to mark the track. Its hard enough sometimes to see your competitors out there, let alone try to dodge some huge, semi-immovable object. Just sayin.


The tires are still a much better alternative to having another accident like Jack Bland had at Hagerstown. Any time you have an inside guard rail with an opening you are going to have breaks in the guard rail and you need to put something there to prevent the guard rail from shearing a car (and possibly the driver) in half. And the big tires prevent that from happening. You obviously haven't been to PPMS because they're certainly not there just to prevent drivers from racing "below the line". At the end of the day the tires possibly saved Austin's life even though the car was still trashed.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 04:33 PM

The last sentence is not even close to fact. You being in the pits would be more of a fact than what you stated. The hood was NEVER EVER thrown at the 7m, it was PLACED against the side of the hauler during the feature. Also, they were parked beside each other basically(Satterlee was parked between them).

I've seen the way Michael drives and sometimes it's over his head, but when the caution comes out in turn 2 and you don't lift until your in turn 3, you aren't paying attention. Again, 90% of you didn't see the accident as you all were watching Gasser hit the wall as usual. So you have no say as to what happened.


Michael doesn't drive over his head any more than any other driver at PPMS. I didn't disagree with your version of the accident, genius, I just said that many drivers down through the years have caused accidents because they didn't slow down in time when the yellow is thrown.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 04:36 PM

What you are suggesting makes a lot of sense. But it cost money to do these things. And we are talking about PPMS. End of story.


Those big tires, as Gearhead said, are to protect a driver from running head on into a break in the fence, i.e. pit entrance. Unless one is going to install crash barriers like on the freeway, which I have never seen at any racetrack, the big tires are the best alternative. End of story.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 02:31 AM

Hope Ron Davies and Austin Hubbard are recovering well...2 nasty crashes last weekend.

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:17 AM

That is the fastest part of the track , why not put the entrance to the pits in either turn two or turn three, close off that entry and use that slower part of the track for your entrance into the pits. Not alot of money to change that, just a little slower part of the track to have an opening in. Just an idea.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 01:28 PM

That is the fastest part of the track , why not put the entrance to the pits in either turn two or turn three, close off that entry and use that slower part of the track for your entrance into the pits. Not alot of money to change that, just a little slower part of the track to have an opening in. Just an idea.


You can't "close off" that entrance unless you are going to make the haulers come through the back gate and make a hard 90 degree turn while barreling down the backstretch banking to try to drive down to turn 2 or 3 to get into the pits. That could get ugly.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

You can't "close off" that entrance unless you are going to make the haulers come through the back gate and make a hard 90 degree turn while barreling down the backstretch banking to try to drive down to turn 2 or 3 to get into the pits. That could get ugly.

I just had a vision of a big hauler sliding sideways down the back stretch into the guard rail.

Sort of like when the ambulance tries to leave Lernerville when it starts to rain and slides down turn 4 sideways.


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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:42 PM

The tires are still a much better alternative to having another accident like Jack Bland had at Hagerstown. Any time you have an inside guard rail with an opening you are going to have breaks in the guard rail and you need to put something there to prevent the guard rail from shearing a car (and possibly the driver) in half. And the big tires prevent that from happening. You obviously haven't been to PPMS because they're certainly not there just to prevent drivers from racing "below the line". At the end of the day the tires possibly saved Austin's life even though the car was still trashed.


I have been there, for many years. My point is a generalization to many tracks, not just Pittsburgh. There are better alternatives than rubber boulders. Freak accidents are going to happen no matter what types of barriers are used, but the fact is, whether you agree or not, the chances of someone being seriously injured or even killed are greater with those things out there.





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