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[I just don't know]

hes the whole reason clinton county went down the drain really luck tard denny spun on his own easy to see

Well just so you know i wasn't talking about after the race i was talking about what happened in the pits before the races even started about when a driver goes into someone else's pit.

No one, drivers or crew members, are permitted to enter another persons pit in an aggressive manner, doing so could results in a disqualification

Any driver disqualified twice will lose all points accumulated for the season.

This is what i am talking about. This is straight off AMP's website.

[speedwiz]

Well you know why they will not do anything. That would end in a disqualification and that would be his second disqualification of the season because he got disqualified for being to light. That's why nothing will not be done and that's why every track that person is at people leave and race cars leave because if he don't get his own way he is all pissy. That's why clinton county fell down the drain.

You people simply amaze me ! Number one , yes Hoffner can have an attitude but show me any true race car driver that doesn't. #2 People shouldn't run their mouth on here if the don't know what they are talking about! #3 I know for a fact that Hoffner gives a lot a drivers a break on the track, I personally think he uses his brake to much, but that's just me. Imagine the carnage if he didn't cut guys a break all the time. # 4 Fenton has been pushing his buttons for a couple of years now. Luke was in line to go out on track and a Fenton crew person was up at his car just screaming at him, previously Hoffner received numerous phone calls that Fenton was going to take him out that night. Put 2&2 TOGETHER I WOULD BE PISSED TO. #5 WHAT THE HELL DOES Clinton County have anything to do with Hoffner?? # 6 If he is such a bad ass why has he been voted fan favorite driver at 8 different tracks? Apparently somebody likes him and his driving. #7 He was disqualified for not scaling after a race he wasn't disqualified for being lite on the scales. So please if you must run your mouth on here have your facts straight and know a little bit about what your talking about! # 8 really I couldn't care less either way but if these guys whining are tired of getting beat , its time for them to step up their game!

[racerxcrewchief]

If my son gets an "Attitude" Were done. I will not have it. Like it or not we live in a world controlled by lawyers. Run over someone in the pits and they will go through that list of names on the car like Grant took Richmond. Businesses and crew members. Sponsors are hard enough to get. And I do my very best to uphold myself and my son to represent those who help us in the highest degree. Dan Joiner Owner 1* purestock

[I just don't know]

You people simply amaze me ! Number one , yes Hoffner can have an attitude but show me any true race car driver that doesn't. #2 People shouldn't run their mouth on here if the don't know what they are talking about! #3 I know for a fact that Hoffner gives a lot a drivers a break on the track, I personally think he uses his brake to much, but that's just me. Imagine the carnage if he didn't cut guys a break all the time. # 4 Fenton has been pushing his buttons for a couple of years now. Luke was in line to go out on track and a Fenton crew person was up at his car just screaming at him, previously Hoffner received numerous phone calls that Fenton was going to take him out that night. Put 2&2 TOGETHER I WOULD BE PISSED TO. #5 WHAT THE HELL DOES Clinton County have anything to do with Hoffner?? # 6 If he is such a bad ass why has he been voted fan favorite driver at 8 different tracks? Apparently somebody likes him and his driving. #7 He was disqualified for not scaling after a race he wasn't disqualified for being lite on the scales. So please if you must run your mouth on here have your facts straight and know a little bit about what your talking about! # 8 really I couldn't care less either way but if these guys whining are tired of getting beat , its time for them to step up their game!

Yes a race car driver can have an attitude but when the attitude endangers other people is so uncalled for. Spinning rocks and dirt in someone else's pit is very immature. I am not taking sides yes Hoffner was Dq'd for not going over the scales i stand corrected thank you very much but the thing is if you go into someone else's pit aggressive manner you can be dq'd. Also in the various rules if you are dq'd twice you forfeit all points for that season. If this was any other race car driver they would strip them of their points. But since it's one driver that would of been dq'd because of this mishap and forfeit his points for the season they did not pursue with it and call it a matter between the drivers. But to me someone could of been seriously injured. Now on the taking out part, i am not sure how many times that Luke has spun drivers out or taken them out. I know of a few times that he has spun the 55 car around because he passed him. One time he never even lifted and drove right into the side of him. But nothing was done with him. I see a big favoritism going on here and it's not fair to other drivers. That's why a lot of drivers leave a track that Hoffner runs at because if he don't get his way he whines and cries.

[snooky]

EXACTLY! Been around racing a while. Don't know about AMP but I know what I witnessed a at Hummingbird last year on numerous occasions. No class and dangerous.

[dylchris]

Was you there? The fact of the matter is, he flipped off a fourteen year old kid witnessed by many people while lining up for his second set of hot laps; yes I did tell him he was number one and will again and again becasue he is a childish piece of well you know what. Ask everyone that was walking off of the line up hill. I have been niothing but supportive and cordial to him up until he crashes us on purpose and yes he will get his day to go around. I promise that, but it will be on our terms. He is a whining pos in my opinion and yes no one ever misses him when he leaves.

For the record Luke did NOT put Denny around after the races; and the bitching was not about that, it was about not doing anything with regards to the incident in the pits when he felt it was grown up to spin his tires and whip rocks at the cars and trailers. And for the record there is a 5 year boy in the negihbors pit that could very well of been hurt by his BS. No different than any other time he does not get his way. Nothing will be done with him until he hurts someone; the flagman was a crew member of his and never sees anything.. Even when Jeff asked his own official in the pits if he saw; the person responded yes he did and nothig was done about it.

You people simply amaze me ! Number one , yes Hoffner can have an attitude but show me any true race car driver that doesn't. #2 People shouldn't run their mouth on here if the don't know what they are talking about! #3 I know for a fact that Hoffner gives a lot a drivers a break on the track, I personally think he uses his brake to much, but that's just me. Imagine the carnage if he didn't cut guys a break all the time. # 4 Fenton has been pushing his buttons for a couple of years now. Luke was in line to go out on track and a Fenton crew person was up at his car just screaming at him, previously Hoffner received numerous phone calls that Fenton was going to take him out that night. Put 2&2 TOGETHER I WOULD BE PISSED TO. #5 WHAT THE HELL DOES Clinton County have anything to do with Hoffner?? # 6 If he is such a bad ass why has he been voted fan favorite driver at 8 different tracks? Apparently somebody likes him and his driving. #7 He was disqualified for not scaling after a race he wasn't disqualified for being lite on the scales. So please if you must run your mouth on here have your facts straight and know a little bit about what your talking about! # 8 really I couldn't care less either way but if these guys whining are tired of getting beat , its time for them to step up their game!

[TurnLeft22]

You people simply amaze me ! Number one , yes Hoffner can have an attitude but show me any true race car driver that doesn't. #2 People shouldn't run their mouth on here if the don't know what they are talking about! #3 I know for a fact that Hoffner gives a lot a drivers a break on the track, I personally think he uses his brake to much, but that's just me. Imagine the carnage if he didn't cut guys a break all the time. # 4 Fenton has been pushing his buttons for a couple of years now. Luke was in line to go out on track and a Fenton crew person was up at his car just screaming at him, previously Hoffner received numerous phone calls that Fenton was going to take him out that night. Put 2&2 TOGETHER I WOULD BE PISSED TO. #5 WHAT THE HELL DOES Clinton County have anything to do with Hoffner?? # 6 If he is such a bad ass why has he been voted fan favorite driver at 8 different tracks? Apparently somebody likes him and his driving. #7 He was disqualified for not scaling after a race he wasn't disqualified for being lite on the scales. So please if you must run your mouth on here have your facts straight and know a little bit about what your talking about! # 8 really I couldn't care less either way but if these guys whining are tired of getting beat , its time for them to step up their game!

HAHA Hoffner gives a lot of people breaks on the track! That might be the funniest thing I have read on here for a long time. Go back to stroking your boy Luke! Haha

[I just don't know]

HAHA Hoffner gives a lot of people breaks on the track! That might be the funniest thing I have read on here for a long time. Go back to stroking your boy Luke! Haha

Yeah there is a lot of people that like stroking Luke. I would have to agree there has been a past between the 55 car and the 15. But the fact of the matter here is nothing is being done about him coming down into someone else's pit and injuring other people at a race track. I will bet my paycheck if the 55 did this or any other car they would of been thrown out. All I am trying to say what is good for the goose is good for the gander. No track will get respect until they stick to their rules. Once a track starts turning their heads to certain rules that they make they will lose cars and fans that go along with that car. All I ask for is fairness, but I guess we live in a world that isn't fair anymore. Guaranteed if that happened anywhere else he would of been thrown out. Also for the record the 55 was going to take the 15 out because of all the crap from the weeks prior to the 15 car taking him out and nothing was being said. Until the track officials stick to their guns and if people get pissed off because they are sticking to their rules then they shouldn't be racing. Yes your going to piss people off but if you do it to one you better do it to all. Also if I was Dan Gill I would be pissed because he could very well be points champion but it isn't going to be because of the favoritism that is shown at the track.

[snooky]

Agree with all you said dylchris.... Except, a 5 yr old in the pits? Totally wrong. Jeff would be smart to not allow this.

[plymouth-man]

This is my take on entering a pit and yes I have worked in the pits many times.. I believe you should always enter a pit in a controlled manner, to do otherwise is asking for trouble. I also believe that the only one that can control this is the track official or owner, if im not mistaken the 96 car was banned from amp for fighting in the pits and that was the right call. Do we really want to read about someone getting run over and killed in the pits by a out of control car, no we don't. It wasn't that long ago that this kind of indecent closed the track and someone went to jail so come on guys cool it and beat the guy on the track, not the pits!!

[dylchris]

The 55 had no intentions of taking the 15 car out; Denny nor I want the responsibility of hurting someone or damaging someone elses car on our conscience, but the last time at the Connor Memorial was the third time he did iit intentionally and this time he told the track crew and anyone else that would listen he did it intentionally; guess what it will come around.

[I just don't know]

The 55 had no intentions of taking the 15 car out; Denny nor I want the responsibility of hurting someone or damaging someone elses car on our conscience, but the last time at the Connor Memorial was the third time he did iit intentionally and this time he told the track crew and anyone else that would listen he did it intentionally; guess what it will come around.

dylchris sorry i didn't mean it by intentionally but i know at some point it will happen i just didn't word it correctly. I wouldn't want to see someone getting injured or damaging someone else's equipment.

[MOMFENTON55]

You people simply amaze me ! Number one , yes Hoffner can have an attitude but show me any true race car driver that doesn't. #2 People shouldn't run their mouth on here if the don't know what they are talking about! #3 I know for a fact that Hoffner gives a lot a drivers a break on the track, I personally think he uses his brake to much, but that's just me. Imagine the carnage if he didn't cut guys a break all the time. # 4 Fenton has been pushing his buttons for a couple of years now. Luke was in line to go out on track and a Fenton crew person was up at his car just screaming at him, previously Hoffner received numerous phone calls that Fenton was going to take him out that night. Put 2&2 TOGETHER I WOULD BE PISSED TO. #5 WHAT THE HELL DOES Clinton County have anything to do with Hoffner?? # 6 If he is such a bad ass why has he been voted fan favorite driver at 8 different tracks? Apparently somebody likes him and his driving. #7 He was disqualified for not scaling after a race he wasn't disqualified for being lite on the scales. So please if you must run your mouth on here have your facts straight and know a little bit about what your talking about! # 8 really I couldn't care less either way but if these guys whining are tired of getting beat , its time for them to step up their game!

I have a question for speedwiz. What buttons are u talking about? If u mean racing him and beating him then luke needs to hang his helmet. The younger generation is getting better every year and he needs to deal with it!!!! If u remember correctly the year at thunder mountin when Luke flipped his car WHO was the first person over to check on him DENNY!!! And the thanks that denny gets was he wanted to beat denny up. As far as the fourteen year old giving him the finger was not true anyone that knows that young man knows he is one of the most respectful boys around for a fourteen year old. Luke also has the worst fans. there was a three year old upset crying that her driver did not win and they made fun of her. that is where bullying comes from so i guess his fans are like him !!!! i think u need to talk to luke about the whining evidently that is what he is doing because these younger kids are beating him. I am sure he would feel good if he would hit someone with his car while he was throwing one of his tantrums. We even watched him throw everything from his car and trailer all over the pits and his crew had to pick it up I think anger management courses are in order here. The dirt and rock he threw all over our pit area did cause an injury to one of our pit crew.

[Thunder Dog]

Oh i also have to add is if you are disqualified twice in the season you get all your points taken away for the season. So he wouldn't be the points champion and they can't have that.

The rules state if you are disqualified for TWO RULES infractions, meaning, too light at the scales, a spoiler size incorrect, an engine being illegal, etc. Thus, it does not matter if someone is DQ'ed for agressive driving, or fighting, etc. So, a DQ would not cost him his points.

[42w]

The rules state if you are disqualified for TWO RULES infractions, meaning, too light at the scales, a spoiler size incorrect, an engine being illegal, etc. Thus, it does not matter if someone is DQ'ed for agressive driving, or fighting, etc. So, a DQ would not cost him his points.

it sounds like jeff needs to get a set of balls and run things like he said he was going to at the start of the season sorry but if you build a car that is not legal for that class then what other rules cant they read?

[suhoney18]

it sounds like jeff needs to get a set of balls and run things like he said he was going to at the start of the season sorry but if you build a car that is not legal for that class then what other rules cant they read?

no dog in this really but apparently the street stock rules went out the window to....

[dylchris]

while you are citing rules, why not cite them all, what does the rules say about speeding through the pits, I wonder what his insurance carrier would think about it when someone gets hurt bad, Our crew person is experiencing pain, I wonder what that kind of claim will have on his ability to get insurance?
Don't just look at he rules you want, maybe a little "discretion" could go a long way. Look around at the crowd, I wonder how it is affected. That's if it even gets sent to the insurance carrier.

The rules state if you are disqualified for TWO RULES infractions, meaning, too light at the scales, a spoiler size incorrect, an engine being illegal, etc. Thus, it does not matter if someone is DQ'ed for agressive driving, or fighting, etc. So, a DQ would not cost him his points.

[dylchris]

One more thing maybe you ought to speak to some of the witnesses, to find out how they feel about it, and everything else that has gone on with him?

The rules state if you are disqualified for TWO RULES infractions, meaning, too light at the scales, a spoiler size incorrect, an engine being illegal, etc. Thus, it does not matter if someone is DQ'ed for agressive driving, or fighting, etc. So, a DQ would not cost him his points.

[ProDirt]

while you are citing rules, why not cite them all, what does the rules say about speeding through the pits, I wonder what his insurance carrier would think about it when someone gets hurt bad, Our crew person is experiencing pain, I wonder what that kind of claim will have on his ability to get insurance?
Don't just look at he rules you want, maybe a little "discretion" could go a long way. Look around at the crowd, I wonder how it is affected. That's if it even gets sent to the insurance carrier.

Hoffner never was one to follow the rules at any track.......and if he is made follow them he throws a temper tantrum. He either has to be the big fish in the small pond or he'll beat and smash his way through until he gets his way. The drivers and fans at Hummingbird got sick and tired of his BS and now he's doing the same at AMP. I've seen him do this BS many times and it always ends the same way. He has ZERO respect for anyone else or any one's equipment. TRUE competition is a threat to his ego .......and we can't have that !

[dylchris]

What an intelligent set of rules; if you are light crossing the scales you get a season long point removal on the second occurrence, so if you are in an incident and lose a piece of weight or forget to add fuel because you are scrambling to get ready, you lose all points. If you drive through the pits like an !!!!!!!, the penalty is at the tracks discretion which in his case each time, is to accept it. How many people will get hurt because a spoiler is to high or the car is too light? I wonder what the rule is when a representative of a race team whips an ink pen at a person working the pay off window or in this case someone very near and dear to the operation? Oh I know it is let go as well. How many thing does a person need to do to get some of those "discretionary" suspensions. I could list a lot more. I wonder how many other drivers could tell the officials at the pay off window he deliberately took another driver out and the officials do nothing about it? I wonder if every race team would be afforded the same opportunity? I guess we are just a wannabe and I am fine with that. It is better to just kick his tail on the track without deliberately taking him out. I was the first person that was so encouraged to have racing in my back yard; I thought it was going to be awesome, a great environment for family fun and entertainment, just to find out the grounds may be different but the BS you have to endure is the same.