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[4FUN]

The FASTRAK Racing Series will begin testing a few different items at Lavonia Speedway (GA) in the near future. 1) A re-compounded FT400 tire. 2) A few minor lm body changes 3) A entirely new class 4) Spec engine Number 4 is almost funny... I thought that a "crate" engine was a spec engine...

[Hatorade]

They should probably "test" the eye sight of Fastrak "officials" too.

[BUTTBEAK]

[IMPERIALTIRE11]

FASTRAK to do testing at Lavonia Speedway Thursday October 10th.


The FASTRAK Racing Series will begin testing a few different items at Lavonia Speedway (GA) in the near future.

1) A re-compounded FT400 tire.
2) A few minor lm body changes
3) A entirely new class
4) Spec engine

"First off I want to say, we are not setting out to change anything" said Stan Lester, Founder of the series. "We are simply researching some things. If you are going to stay on top of things in this business, you need to be the leader. FASTRAK has set the bar for crate late model racing in this country. To stay ahead we need to keep looking at new things. That's why FASTRAK is still considered number one when it comes to this type of car".

"Personally I think we need to slow the cars down a bit and most of our teams agree. We have some tremendously special teams in this series. Some of the teams with pretty good racing budgets have some to me and said the same thing. We need to slow these cars down. Get more and better competition again. There are some things we can do to make the racing better and not cost anyone a penny. That's our intention for doing this testing to begin with. Right now its only concept, but if it works then we can take it to our race teams and actually let them vote on it. The teams in FASTRAK have always made the rules, we simply enforce them".

The test will not be open to the general public. It will be limited to FASTRAK members only. YOU MUST BRING YOUR MEMBERSHIP CARD to the gate for admittance. You will be turned away without it. Fans will not be allowed in the stands for this test.

Moving forward the FASTRAK RACING SERIES.

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Maybe if you take the engine out of the "CRATE" Dont touch it, No RACE FUEL, Spec shock, spec headers, hard tire, Like it was supp to be as our track told us saving they were saving us money, run it stock and on pump gas. You wouldnt need to slow them down.

[LM RACING]

Bill is correct------Max has run the same engine all year until about 2 weeks ago when he switched out because of how many laps were on the engine, but still nothing wrong with the engine

that engine will recieve a quick overhaul (rings, brgs, gaskets) and be in competition at the nationals

the reason you see seal #'s on the FT website is from tech tear downs not failures

Brad

Was it last year when he was having problems then? I just think that if the motors are limited in rpms they will even out and its also less abuse on them. Dont get me wrong i like the concept if crates but it has once again become a money class without the limits on chassis parts.

[TheLegend]

Was it last year when he was having problems then? I just think that if the motors are limited in rpms they will even out and its also less abuse on them. Dont get me wrong i like the concept if crates but it has once again become a money class without the limits on chassis parts.

If they just want more winners my idea will work wonders

[D1RT]

They are the ones that left it get out of hand by letting all the high dollar light weight suspension parts, rear ends, transmissions, etc into the series. The high dollar bolt on parts on the engines too. As I posted when this deal first started it will get out of hand and people will be spending as much or more than most local and regional super late teams do. Maybe they should go back and look at their original concept and get back to it and also outlaw all the light weight and high dollar parts.

[BaconBits]

Was it last year when he was having problems then? I just think that if the motors are limited in rpms they will even out and its also less abuse on them. Dont get me wrong i like the concept if crates but it has once again become a money class without the limits on chassis parts.

Every budget or spec class ever created gets out of hand within a decade, so they start a new budget class that gets out of hand within a decade, so they start a new budget class... etc.


When you even up the playing field with motors, the spending that would have been in the motor is spent on other parts. It's also been like that since the beginning of time.


The only true way to curb spending, in my opinion, is putting everybody on hockey pucks for tires. IMCA has used this formula for years with great success.

Edited by BaconBits, 11 September 2013 - 06:51 PM.

[BaconBits]

They are the ones that left it get out of hand by letting all the high dollar light weight suspension parts, rear ends, transmissions, etc into the series.
The high dollar bolt on parts on the engines too.
As I posted when this deal first started it will get out of hand and people will be spending as much or more than most local and regional super late teams do.
Maybe they should go back and look at their original concept and get back to it and also outlaw all the light weight and high dollar parts.

The problem with outlawing the lightweight parts is that the cost of replacing them is high and they become scrap because you can't use them for anything else.

[scruffy1a]

Maybe they should go back and look at their original concept and get back to it and also outlaw all the light weight and high dollar parts.

I've read that their original (and current) concept is to keep engine costs low. No mention of anything else, just engines. Not because the racers pulled one over. Not because they overlooked writing rules for it. But because they thought they could fool people into believing that this is a low budget class. And they counted on a large number of guys jumping at the chance to race a late model on the cheap. They were right.

[SRT93]

How bout an e-mod style chassis, spec shocks, spec tires, spec headers, no lightweight components, and 93 octane?

[BaconBits]

How bout an e-mod style chassis, spec shocks, spec tires, spec headers, no lightweight components, and 93 octane?

Isn't that what the BRP late models are up north minus the crate engine?

[racer777]

602 crate, fixed oil shock,valving same for everyone, aluminum drive shafts only,no carbon fiber. No magnesium hubs.no lightened rotors.weight 2,500 lbs standard headers, and an edlebrok 600 carb. Tire compound 44,1400.

[brad hibbard]

602 crate, fixed oil shock,valving same for everyone, aluminum drive shafts only,no carbon fiber. No magnesium hubs.no lightened rotors.weight 2,500 lbs standard headers, and an edlebrok 600 carb. Tire compound 44,1400.

carbon fiber driveshafts are a safety device not a performance item

with the use of ball spline transmissions where the driveshaft is actually bolted to the transmission and cannot simply fall out during a failure the carbon fiber shaft will just disintegrate and in most cases not damage the chassis or most importantly the driver or other competitors

Brad

[TheLegend]

carbon fiber driveshafts are a safety device not a performance item

with the use of ball spline transmissions where the driveshaft is actually bolted to the transmission and cannot simply fall out during a failure the carbon fiber shaft will just disintegrate and in most cases not damage the chassis or most importantly the driver or other competitors

Brad

Exactly .... So don't allow ball splines or carbon shafts !!! Boom I saved you 1200 right there

[racer777]

Exactly .... So don't allow ball splines or carbon shafts !!! Boom I saved you 1200 right there

Bingo ! 1rst gen Berts only.

[Paul55]

Maybe if you take the engine out of the "CRATE" Dont touch it, No RACE FUEL, Spec shock, spec headers, hard tire, Like it was supp to be as our track told us saving they were saving us money, run it stock and on pump gas. You wouldnt need to slow them down.

Yup woulda been way bigger of a class and less headache. I just seen Joe martin had to hang it up cause of money problems this is one of your better teams and they cant even keep up with the money being spent. You start losing guys like Joe you know there is a problem with the cash that guys are spending on theses (crate cars)

[nwpa_dlm_fan]

Yup woulda been way bigger of a class and less headache. I just seen Joe martin had to hang it up cause of money problems this is one of your better teams and they cant even keep up with the money being spent. You start losing guys like Joe you know there is a problem with the cash that guys are spending on theses (crate cars)

this is the first I heard of Joe hanging it up. If it's true, that is horrible news. One of the best guys in the sport. He did have one shitty year though. If it truly was because of financial reasons, it wasn't because he couldn't "keep up with the money", it was because he had some bad luck this year with getting caught up in some bad wrecks. I don't think anyone could afford to replace/rebuild a car as many times as he did!

[TheLegend]

this is the first I heard of Joe hanging it up. If it's true, that is horrible news. One of the best guys in the sport. He did have one shitty year though. If it truly was because of financial reasons, it wasn't because he couldn't "keep up with the money", it was because he had some bad luck this year with getting caught up in some bad wrecks. I don't think anyone could afford to replace/rebuild a car as many times as he did!

Let me get this straight ..... If a guy quits racing because he couldn't afford to rebuild his car over and over again you say that if the cars were cheaper it wouldn't help ???! If they cars were cheaper and he would have had more money for repairs .... Damn you must be an Obama voter

[Paul55]

this is the first I heard of Joe hanging it up. If it's true, that is horrible news. One of the best guys in the sport. He did have one shitty year though. If it truly was because of financial reasons, it wasn't because he couldn't "keep up with the money", it was because he had some bad luck this year with getting caught up in some bad wrecks. I don't think anyone could afford to replace/rebuild a car as many times as he did!

Yup he posted it on Twitter and facebook. Yes the cause is what these blue printed create motors/ light weight rearends /transmissions/ hubs/1000.00 headers/1000.00 carbs/ all the bolt on motor parts/ the 5000.00 shocks cost.Since this is a start up class lmfao! Its out of hand and will just get worse the more money theses series get from sponsors that sells all these high dollar parts!

Edited by Paul55, 13 September 2013 - 11:14 AM.