I have heard that a lot of teams are juicing their tires at ppms since they never check for it? After lasts night performance by those who would normally win by a ton never made the race, one wonders??
Tire Juicing at ppms?
Started by Sparkler, Apr 11 2014 01:52 PM
33 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:52 PM
#2
Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:29 PM
No one wonders , it's a fact just people are afraid to talk about it ... I'm not .... Lowering your deck a half inch doesn't take your car from dominate to getting lapped in 10 laps .... However getting busted for deck height makes you realize oh shit I better take the illegal tires off before they catch those. Some cars are blazing fast at weekly shows but not when tires are being tested ... Hmmmmm they don't even attempt to deny it. I say ppms should raise the pit price and test the super late feature winner all 4 tires every fuking week !!!I have heard that a lot of teams are juicing their tires at ppms since they never check for it? After lasts night performance by those who would normally win by a ton never made the race, one wonders??
#3
Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:58 PM
Test everyone in every class, if you're a cheat you're a cheat irrespective of whether you run 1st or last.No one wonders , it's a fact just people are afraid to talk about it ... I'm not .... Lowering your deck a half inch doesn't take your car from dominate to getting lapped in 10 laps .... However getting busted for deck height makes you realize oh shit I better take the illegal tires off before they catch those. Some cars are blazing fast at weekly shows but not when tires are being tested ... Hmmmmm they don't even attempt to deny it. I say ppms should raise the pit price and test the super late feature winner all 4 tires every fuking week !!!
Edited by Dingo, 11 April 2014 - 02:59 PM.
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#4
Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:25 PM
Its been going on for years! Aintnothing new!I have heard that a lot of teams are juicing their tires at ppms since they never check for it? After lasts night performance by those who would normally win by a ton never made the race, one wonders??
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#5
Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:44 PM
It has been going on for years but with the chemicals and processes used now it's a whole different level ...Its been going on for years! Aintnothing new!
#6
Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:56 PM
you are talking vague here I think what are you stating is you believe Alex Ferree is a cheater.
#7
Posted 11 April 2014 - 04:59 PM
I'm not being vague at all the 10 and the 72 do not win on clean tires...you are talking vague here I think what are you stating is you believe Alex Ferree is a cheater.
#8
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:06 PM
To make it clear I'm not using that as an excuse for losing , and I'm not saying I would be as fast as them on juiced tires. But I can tell you I'm not risking cancer to make 1100 dollars ... I'll just bend railings and make that in a half hour
#9
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:08 PM
I have heard that a lot of teams are juicing their tires at ppms since they never it? After lasts night performance by those who would normally win by a ton never made the race, one wonders??
They've tested tires at every NDRL event this year and publicly posted the results on their Facebook page. How is that "never testing"? Doesn't anybody remember Owens getting DQ'd last year?
#10
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:10 PM
He means weekly shows at ppms !!! It's not a coincidence some people step on their dick when they know tires will be tested and they can't get away with it !!!!They've tested tires at every NDRL event this year and publicly posted the results on their Facebook page. How is that "never testing"? Doesn't anybody remember Owens getting DQ'd last year?
#11
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:28 PM
He means weekly shows at ppms !!! It's not a coincidence some people step on their dick when they know tires will be tested and they can't get away with it !!!!
I think it has more to do with the higher level of competition. The locals are usually subpar at the Firecracker too, does that mean they are all tire doping too?
#12
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:42 PM
Alex had a decent qualifying lap and would easily have made the feature had he and Baker not gotten together on the front stretch. Michael Norris has been struggling at PPMS since last July, after starting like a house on fire. That is why he lost the point lead to Alex.
Edited by flash49, 11 April 2014 - 05:43 PM.
#13
Posted 11 April 2014 - 05:44 PM
There is tire juicing at lernerville also. It's just not as big of a deal because you have softer compounds available. I'm not having a debate , you think the dudes are clean and pure as the wind driven snow and I guarantee they aren't ...I think it has more to do with the higher level of competition. The locals are usually subpar at the Firecracker too, does that mean they are all tire doping too?
#14
Posted 11 April 2014 - 07:29 PM
The hard late model tires, used @ the weekly shows, have been being "adjusted" for many.....many years.
Cry doped tires, traction control, remote control shocks, whatever.
Are adjusted tires going to make a lap car / consistent back marker a front runner,nope..... NEVER!
#15
Posted 11 April 2014 - 07:39 PM
I'm not being vague at all the 10 and the 72 do not win on clean tires...
#16
Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:42 PM
Isn't ndrl open compound Hoosier only or do they have a compound rule.
#17
Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:00 PM
You obviously understand how stupid this topic is! 
http://www.thendrl.c...an-29-2014.html
http://www.thendrl.c...an-29-2014.html
Edited by BUTTBEAK, 11 April 2014 - 10:07 PM.
#18
Posted 11 April 2014 - 10:04 PM
comparing friday night drivers to national guys that actually race for a living and race numerous times a week. Is not a very good comparison.I think it has more to do with the higher level of competition. The locals are usually subpar at the Firecracker too, does that mean they are all tire doping too?
#19
Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:01 PM
The reason Norris and Ferree win at PPMS isn't tires. If you ask they would sell them to you.
The fact is they work harder and drive harder than the rest. Quit crying about cheaters and work on your car.
Anytime someone wins they must cheat right. BS
#20
Posted 12 April 2014 - 04:24 AM
No they didn't win every race .... Plenty of other people also won races .... BUT Those other people perform at the same level when they know tires are tested. Someone calling working on a race car " hard work " is a joke. I have a can of spray paint a dig bar and a shovel and 15 holes need dug 22" x 22" x 36" oh yeah and the ground is shale with some dirt mixed in ... That's hard work. Working on a race car is vacation from hard work. With your analysis " hard work and god like driving ability " are what make a car stick does that mean if you win 1 week and run bad the next ,that means you just didnt work hard enough and forgot how to drive ?? Keep drinking the kool aidThe reason Norris and Ferree win at PPMS isn't tires. If you ask they would sell them to you.
The fact is they work harder and drive harder than the rest. Quit crying about cheaters and work on your car.
Anytime someone wins they must cheat right. BS
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