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[spike]

Spot on.  June 10, 1970 at Canfield Speedway.  Admission $3.00.  First time I ever met Jan Opperman. 

[longtimeracefan101]

Good news for mercer having the all star sanction should basically get them their normal Saturday night field lol

your an asshole. You NEVER HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY

[longtimeracefan101]

Mercer is sticking with the All-Star sanction for our July 4-5 show.

Mike as much as I love Mercer. I think it's a huge mistake. We will get dales opinion at Cocapoah this weekend

[BaconBits]

your an asshole. You NEVER HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY

 

You can blast him all you want, but he's right about this one. Right now, the All Stars should be called the No Stars because they have no cars committed to the series. They had one, Dale Blaney, but Webb pissed him off too. And Guy Webb shit on the rest of the guys who usually come to his shows, so they decided they won't be supporting any of his. Mercer's All Stars show will probably get Ed Lynch Jr. as an "invader", but that's really it.

Edited by BaconBits, 05 January 2015 - 07:16 PM.

[longtimeracefan101]

 
You can blast him all you want, but he's right about this one. Right now, the All Stars should be called the No Stars because they have no cars committed to the series. They had one, Dale Blaney, but Webb pissed him off too. And Guy Webb shit on the rest of the guys who usually come to his shows, so they decided they won't be supporting any of his. Mercer's All Stars show will probably get Ed Lynch Jr. as an "invader", but that's really it.

i kinda agree douche bag. But I'll be in Arizona for WINTER HEAT. while u freeze in PA.

[DW Blair]

1970 was first season. Didn't run again until 1973. Sanctioned the Knoxville Nationals, Williams Grove National Open, and the Western World at Manzanita that year. Came back in 1979 as MOSS (Midwest Outlaw Super Series). All Star name came back in 1980 and has been continuous since then.

[BaconBits]

i kinda agree douche bag. But I'll be in Arizona for WINTER HEAT. while u freeze in PA.

 

Nobody cares where you'll be.

Edited by BaconBits, 05 January 2015 - 07:47 PM.

[longtimeracefan101]

Wow a bigger asshole than we thougt. Jealousy is awesome. Stay here
 
Nobody cares where you'll be.

[3799]

Good news for mercer having the all star sanction should basically get them their normal Saturday night field lol

Nobody can say with any certainty what sprint car racing will look like seven months from now. We have the largest weekly 410 field at Mercer in Western Pa. Even if the All-Stars don't bring a bunch of cars that means local teams can take home the lion's share of the increased purse, instead of like it has been forever where the purse goes up and the Outlaws or All-Stars ride out of town with the majority of the money. Add a couple dozen Outlaw Warrior sprints on the card and it is realistic to see over 50 sprint cars.

Edited by 3799, 05 January 2015 - 09:37 PM.

[spike]

Even if they don't.  What a great line.

[The Legend]

3799 and exactly how many times do you think fans will pay extra to see the same weekly cars race ? Or is admission the same for an all star race as a weekly show ?? I've never met Guy Webb but when you call a guy who's underfunded AND the only person to win the Knoxville nationals who isn't named Donny Schatz since 2006 .. " c level talent " it seems to me Webb would be better off working a smode booth with sunhoney than promoting sprint car races

[whiteboy55]

3799 and exactly how many times do you think fans will pay extra to see the same weekly cars race ? Or is admission the same for an all star race as a weekly show ?? I've never met Guy Webb but when you call a guy who's underfunded AND the only person to win the Knoxville nationals who isn't named Donny Schatz since 2006 .. " c level talent " it seems to me Webb would be better off working a smode booth with sunhoney than promoting sprint car races

 

did he really call Tim Shaffer " C level talent"?  

[D1RT]

 

did he really call Tim Shaffer " C level talent"?  

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mo21sprint January 04, 2015 at 03:57:00 PM Joined: 11/30/2004 Posts: 364 Reply

 

 

Guy Webb says the Renegades have had no effect on his 2015 All Star sprint car series Schedule

 

 

by Lenny Sammons

Focus on Speed – Page 4 – area auto racing news – Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2014

 

Guy Webb released his 2015 All Star circuit of champions schedule this past week. Webb was in Indianapolis for the PRI show, beating the drums for his 410 sprint car series which will again be sponsored by University of Northeast Ohio.

 

Despite competition from the new renegade series started by former supporter/car owner Shane Helms in his base are of Ohio, Webb said he’s up from 40- events last year to 53 race dates. Only three of those dates carry TBA (to be announced) locations.

 

“We’ve got everything we had last year and then some,” said Webb, ”we’ve not lost anything”.

The anchor of the series, Ohio Speedweek, contains nine nights of racing at eight different tracks. Attica raceway park will again open Speedweek and Fremont (which has two events) will close it. Gone are Renegade committed tracks of Wayne County and Atomic. They’ve been replaced by races at 35 Raceway in Frankkfort and Moler in Williamsburg.

 

In Ohio/Western PA Webb has other dates on the schedule during the year at Attica, Fremont, Mercer, Sharon, Lenerville and Eldora. An added event on Sunday Sept. 6 is expected in that area after a two race weekend in Attica.

 

Tracks remaining loyal to Webb in Central PA are key speedways such as Williams Grove, Port Royal and Lincoln, with a TBA to follow the show at Lincoln on Sunday June 14.

 

“When this started,’” said Webb of the Renegade Series, “we kept going. We finished all the races and our car counts were just as good. We didn’t lose any sponsors, we’ve gained some. We didn’t lose any dates, we gained them. Nothing has changed.”

 

Webb was disappointed in fred Rahmer’s announcement last week in AARN that he was running a renegade series race on Sunday April 25. Webb said Rahmer is piggy-backing off two days of All Star series racing in the area at Williams Grove and Port Royal. He felt it unfair that he would follow the Bob Weikert Memorial at Port Royal,  an event that has been growing in both purse and stature in recent years.

 

As was the case, last year, only one New York State event is planned at Canandaigua Speedway.

Webb has padded his schedule by adding co-sanctioned events that will offer point incentives to his  racers at two WOO multi-day shows. His schedule shows the “Ironman” weekend in Pevely MO and the 3 day Williams Grove Natl Open in October on his schedule for the first time. He said he’ll “link” some points to those events to get his travelers to attend.

 

“The Open is now three days and we want to encourage all of our people to come and support it” said Webb, of adding the extra dates at Williams Grove. “Dale Blaney finished fourth there last year and we want a better presence than we’ve been doing. Ohio has never been represented big at hat event and it should be.”

 

Webb received bad publicity this season when car owner Mike Heffner went public regarding a lack of payment for driver Lance Dewease’s 2013 All Star’s Eastern regional championship. Heffner, who did return and won the same title this year with driver Greg Hodnett, had agreed to monthly payments but when they were not arriving as expected he began legal action. Webb said Heffner would have been paid by May, but will get his 2014 championship money before he gets the rest of his 2013 point fund now that the legal red tape is involved.

 

Webb said that 2014 Natl and Ohio regional champion dale blaney has already been paid for this season and other will get checks after the first of the year.

 

“We’re obligated to pay the first of January when our sponsorship money comes in” said Webb, “but I made a special deal with Dale so he’s already paid. I’ll pay the rest when some of the other 32 sponsorship contracts come back. It’s how I’ve done it the last 15 years.

 

He expects Blaney to defend his championship.

“Blaney is committed to us,” said Webb. “Always was.”

He didn’t, however, want to commit to who the other teams were in fear they would have pressure put on them by his competition to got with the renegades instead. He did say that one of the Haudenschilds (Jac or Sheldon) would race with him along with the Phoenix No 59 owned by Tom and Sherry Leidig that Danny Holtgraver drove at the end of the season.

 

“We’ll have five or six regulars with us,” said Webb. “I don’t want to the let the names out because they’ll start calling them, offering them idiotic stuff.”

 

The Shane Helms-organized Renegades group contains several former All Star champions, including Tim Shaffer.

“You cannot sell a series with B and C level talent,” said Webb of the Renegades. “if you look at Tim Shaffer, Chad Kemenah, Danny Smith and Greg Wilson they are all 45-50 yr old that are trying to hang on. There is a certain time that it is over and they have to move on in their career. They are just trying to prolong it.”

Webb will begin his 15^th season in control of the All Stars by returning to one large point fund rather than dividing it into three sections. While the renegades have yet to post an official schedule, Webb said he expects to run the majority of their events at the same three speedways in Ohio. Interested tracks in the Central PA area have been Rahmer’s events at Path valley along with a possible show with Bob Miller’s Thunder on the Hill series at Grandview and at Jake Smulley’s Big Diamond Raceway.

 

 

“I’ve been checking on these dates they are talking about,” said Webb of the Renegades. “If you look at everything that has been put out about them you would crucify me if I put out press releases like they’ve been doing. There are no facts of when or where. All it says are names places they might be going to race.

 

[3799]

3799 and exactly how many times do you think fans will pay extra to see the same weekly cars race ? Or is admission the same for an all star race as a weekly show ?? I've never met Guy Webb but when you call a guy who's underfunded AND the only person to win the Knoxville nationals who isn't named Donny Schatz since 2006 .. " c level talent " it seems to me Webb would be better off working a smode booth with sunhoney than promoting sprint car races

I am not defending or trying to interpret anything Guy Webb says. I work for Bill Altman, not Guy Webb. I think we will be just fine when July 4th gets here. Like I said nobody can say with any certainty what the state of either series is going to be when July gets here. Look at the fields for most All-Star, Outlaw, even Renegade races. The majority of the cars are local racers. Now if it turns out there aren't that many travelling cars it's a chance to see a bunch our local guys make some good money on one weekend, not just one or two cars. it's not 6 races like some tracks are doing with Renegade. It's one weekend. I think it's well worth it to pay a few extra bucks on one weekend and support the local drivers.

Edited by 3799, 06 January 2015 - 02:56 PM.

[DavyLee2]

Well that guy just sold his last allstar ticket to me last year !

[TEAM29]

I have no problem paying a few extra dollars that would be going towards the local drivers, but I guess what I am reading is that people are paying the extra money to see an All-Star or Renegade race and the drivers that are running with their respected series of choice, not the local guys...I on one hand like to see the invasion of talent, but then the odds go down for the local guys....pick your poison...

[TurnLeft22]

How can you have a touring series with no drivers that follow it?? Guy Webb did this to himself.

You can't argue with 3799 about Mercer. He thinks it's Gods great gift to PA. Track is going to crap. Dusty one lane racing. It's a shame that a track with that much potential is being run into the ground.

[whenpigsfly]

My best guess:  Someone high profile buys the allstars because they value the storied history of the series.   With them they bring in some good talent to race the series (not saying they didnt have it last season) and the renegades and all stars become one again over time because the whole problem they had was webb.  And as far as Mercer they may be making the right choice by not jumping on any bandwagon just yet..... I could be wrong but doubt it.....  

[Street Stocker]

Wow that's bad PR to insult drivers by name like Webb did in that interview.     He said those drivers are in their 40's and 50's.  That's a little bit of age discrimination in that comment too.   Isn't Blaney around 50 and he is praising him?

Edited by Street Stocker, 07 January 2015 - 09:49 AM.

[3799]

Some very interesting reading concerning the sale of part or all of the All Stars on Hoseheads.