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#1 bob williams

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 09:32 PM

As a crate racer since 2007 i look at the pros and cons of differant series. Here is my view. American racer is posting $20000 total point money with $5000 to the winner. Rush has a total of $80,000 total point money where as one driver could win over $23000 in point money alone. Rush also has $60,000 in products to be awarded to the racers, not gift certs, but actual product including a new GM performance 604 engine. Also CARS has NO experiance in teching cars and engines. Rush has 9 years experiance teching. If you want to race on a level playing field , teching is extremely important. I have been on both sides of good teching and bad teching but i"ll always support good teching of cars, it's absolutely necessary. There is not a doubt that there is only one series that benefits the racers- THE RUSH SERIES. I don't blame American Racer for starting a series since their goal is to sell more tires in the crate market. Rush is not about selling more tires,it's about being a professional race organization run by people dedicated to run a series for the racers and by veteran racers. Many national companies are supporting the rush series with products and cash. Bilstein has just signed on for 3 years with a $13000 point fund for each year. $5000 will go to the highest finishing driver in the weekly points who is on the $135 Bilstein sealed shock. By the way the Bilstein shocks perform excellantly and you only need 6 shocks for the season. My car will be running on the RUSH series and we fully intend to win the Bilstein money. Just had to express my view.

 

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Posted 30 December 2014 - 10:33 PM

I would think you will win the money after all your probably the only car on bilstien shocks.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 09:20 AM

Aren't you a Hoosier tire dealer ??? Or did you lose that when caught cheating your fastrack engines ???


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 10:51 AM

They lost it when they got busted cheating.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 11:05 AM

They lost it when they got busted cheatin

You must still have a concussion from when Demetrius Karalagas knocked out you and you're whole crew at Raceway 7.

 

You protested the engine after you got smoked by half a lap. Then you and your car owner apologized after Fastrak proved there never was cheating involved. Read the Fastrak press release


Edited by jw, 31 December 2014 - 12:24 PM.



#6 starboyshady

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 11:41 AM

"Crickets" ....... No response ???


#7 starboyshady

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 11:44 AM

What do you have to say about these accusations "BOB"


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 11:52 AM

Now that is funny first never got ass beat by anyone! If you call getting sucker punched by two guys, then them getting there ass beat getting our ass beat then so be it. Next we never said sorry for anything your were busted plan and simple did you ever get paid NO. Fastrak can say what they want your motor was illegal. My Amish car owner was at race 1 when tore down. And nobody ran from anyone at Sharon Dennis was still in the car asshole, feel free to stop over at trailer anytime for your ass kicking.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:01 PM

Oh and this was after your driver at Sharon got beat from us after you started pole and we stared 8th, looks like you got your asses beat. And then you get pissed about it lol. Then your driver tells track owner he turned down to block us yet your pissed. You guys won what four features this year good for you only 9 more and you can be in our league. Get ready for 2015 your going to need it.


#10 daviesfan4life

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:04 PM

Much class and sportsmanship being displayed in this thread!!!



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#11 jw

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:16 PM

"Crickets" ....... No response ???

Never a Hoosier dealer.

Engine was protested by Lungers team. Fastrak initally said heads were illegal.

After GM got heads they determined them to be stock factory heads that were never altered and Fastrak reinstated.

The $1000 win was never paid as it took 9 months to get resolved.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:24 PM

Jw pretty sure that is all you needed to say in the first place. And it was good year tires

Edited by wildside, 31 December 2014 - 12:27 PM.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:36 PM

[quote name="bob williams" post="402155" timestamp="1419993157"]
As a crate racer since 2007 i look at the pros and cons of differant series. Here is my view. American racer is posting $20000 total point money with $5000 to the winner. Rush has a total of $80,000 total point money where as one driver could win over $23000 in point money alone. Rush also has $60,000 in products to be awarded to the racers, not gift certs, but actual product including a new GM performance 604 engine. Also CARS has NO experiance in teching cars and engines. Rush has 9 years experiance teching. If you want to race on a level playing field , teching is extremely important. I have been on both sides of good teching and bad teching but i"ll always support good teching of cars, it's absolutely necessary. There is not a doubt that there is only one series that benefits the racers- THE RUSH SERIES. I don't blame American Racer for starting a series since their goal is to sell more tires in the crate market. Rush is not about selling more tires,it's about being a professional race organization run by people dedicated to run a series for the racers and by veteran racers. Many national companies are supporting the rush series with products and cash. Bilstein has just signed on for 3 years with a $13000 point fund for each year. $5000 will go to the highest finishing driver in the weekly points who is on the $135 Bilstein sealed shock. By the way the Bilstein shocks perform excellantly and you only need 6 shocks for the season. My car will be running on the RUSH series and we fully intend to win the Bilstein money. Just had to express my view.



I see where your coming from with the shocks, and i like how you are trying to promote other drivers to use them by telling them that the money is yours before the season starts. Confidence is a great motivator!

What i do not agree with is your opinion of RUSH , if they were all for the "RACER" whY wouldn't they let another tire manufacture be an option, especialy one that is willing to give money back to the "racer"?

Edited by whiteboy55, 31 December 2014 - 12:51 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 12:36 PM


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"They lost it when they got busted cheatin" 
I guess you saying they cheated when you know it was proven the motor was not illegal and verified by Fastrak is OK?

Edited by jw, 31 December 2014 - 12:40 PM.



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Posted 31 December 2014 - 01:04 PM

To say rush is out for the racer not the money is the biggest fuking joke I have ever heard. The best thing for the race would have been 1 major series on Goodyear tires that lasted forever and no grooving or siping . They didn't go behind stans back a fill up his " thump keg " without lube for the racer they did it to fill their own pockets. The AR series is allowing people to run their Hoosiers and the rush series isn't allowing AR's. I can care less I have no plans to ever run a crate car and I run Hoosier tires. Multiple compounds and allowing grooving and siping makes no sense for the crate class.


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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:05 PM

So..... What I see here is dellinger and lunger kissed and made up? Lol


#17 starboyshady

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:06 PM

Or will they Wrastle ??


#18 LM63

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 02:40 PM

You guys kill me but there is no sense arguing it on here. Just the same ole same ole.... Legend is right though, while I don't share his views on Stan, RUSH, and the hard tires he's spot on about how many compounds or manufacturers we need. ONE!  As I've said before I have no allegiance to any tire but where do yall that promote this AR deal think a large chunk of the money for the Nesmith, Rush, and Fastrak point funds come from?????




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Posted 31 December 2014 - 03:40 PM

You guys kill me but there is no sense arguing it on here. Just the same ole same ole.... Legend is right though, while I don't share his views on Stan, RUSH, and the hard tires he's spot on about how many compounds or manufacturers we need. ONE!  As I've said before I have no allegiance to any tire but where do yall that promote this AR deal think a large chunk of the money for the Nesmith, Rush, and Fastrak point funds come from?????

The Racers and Teams pay their own points funds through buying "spec" tires, membership fees, and various other series "fees".




#20 longtimeracefan101

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Posted 31 December 2014 - 05:19 PM

RUSH IS OUT FOR THE $$$$$ look who owns it!!!!





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