I believe more tracks will go specials only... so what I'm waiting for is someone like all stars or someone to start a "big show" touring series where they don't just bring one class... rather they bring the entire show... sprints, big blocks, lates, emod, and some other wild class for a fun filler... it will turn into much like a truck pulling or motocross series... where the tracks are there, and a series will come in and put on the complete show.
Crate cars at PPMS
Started by barneyoldfield, Jan 25 2015 08:26 AM
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#21
Posted 25 January 2015 - 09:38 PM
#22
Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:44 PM
Ok lets see if Sharon had 10 cars a week, and Sharon dropped the crates one would assume these cars would have to go elsewhere to race ? Now on Saturday you pretty much have either PPMS or Roaring Knob. So one could assume unless all 10 sold their cars they would go race somewhere else? That better for you?
Marion Center also runs crates Saturdays. And they can get in on that AR money there.
Edited by BaconBits, 25 January 2015 - 10:51 PM.
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#23
Posted 25 January 2015 - 10:53 PM
I believe more tracks will go specials only... so what I'm waiting for is someone like all stars or someone to start a "big show" touring series where they don't just bring one class... rather they bring the entire show... sprints, big blocks, lates, emod, and some other wild class for a fun filler... it will turn into much like a truck pulling or motocross series... where the tracks are there, and a series will come in and put on the complete show.
A touring series with five classes would be the worst idea ever. A back gate bonanza isn't something you go on the road with. Sure, Lernerville's Stampede and Challenger's old Fall Fest races get/got away with packing the back gate for a special. But that is/was once a year.
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#24
Posted 25 January 2015 - 11:06 PM
The Crates put on a great show at Pittsburgh. While I prefer the Supers, they are indeed a dying breed for weekly shows.
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#25
Posted 26 January 2015 - 07:20 AM
8 out of 10 fans CAN NOT EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE between a CRATE & SUPER ... There are a lot of times , depending on track condition , the lap times are close . More times than not the top 5 crates would beat most of the super class
#26
Posted 26 January 2015 - 09:08 AM
There's no doubt crates pack the stands !!! Ppms gets 50 times the crowd lernerville does all because the ville has no crates .... Hell Sharon made sooooo much money running crates that they felt guilt and dropped them so they didn't make too much !!! Those standing room only crowds at the crown jewel races are nothing compared to a touring crate race !!! This saying won't make sense to most but if you can't afford a weekly super you can't afford a weekly crate either. The crate guys are pissing through money at rates they can't sustain and they will be getting out also ... The ppms crate field is not was it was even 2 years ago , local racing is going downhill period . Racers all love racing with that " it's on till it's gone " mentality that's why all the sudden out of no where dudes quit .... Once the credit card is maxed out and the savings is gone and the bills are turned over to collections they quit ...
#27
Posted 26 January 2015 - 10:41 AM
8 out of 10 fans CAN NOT EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE between a CRATE & SUPER ... There are a lot of times , depending on track condition , the lap times are close . More times than not the top 5 crates would beat most of the super class
If that were true, then more teams would be running a 604 against smaller SLM fields to take advantage of SLM purses.
Legend's sarcasm is spot on. Supers draw crowds, Crates don't. It's that simple.
Tracks picked them up primarily because they believed they would average enough teams to make a back gate profit after their purse was paid. If that was an absolute truth, then every track in the region that hosts weekly shows would have them.
There can be no doubt that weekly racing is in trouble, more so at some tracks than at others. The strong will survive and th weak will get left out. Support whatever classes and tracks you like as much as possible, otherwise all we are going to have is Enduros and Demos.
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#28
Posted 26 January 2015 - 11:18 AM
Not to mention the fact crate lap times are a result of Their go cart like maintaining the same speed the entire lap. They would not race very well against supers even with similar lap times , due to getting killed on starts and not having the straight away speed.
#29
Posted 26 January 2015 - 11:53 AM
You are preaching to the choir .... I have a Crate and a Super for 2015 . I will race when I can , where I can , as much as I can ..... I was just making the point that the crates aren't some half-assed Racecar that anyone can win with , it is not a class that you can build something out of some pipe and go out and win .
#30
Posted 26 January 2015 - 12:11 PM
I never once said Crete racers are half ass or did I say it's easy to win those races. With today's technology it's difficult to win in any division. From the beginning they could have kept crates affordable and they decided not to. The same thing happened to emods. They both started off strong with tons of cars and as the costs sky rocketed the car counts dwindled . And it always starts the same way ..... " we can buy XYZ part used off late model guys cheaper than we can buy the cheaper part new off the dealer .... And of corse then you have guys buying brand new top dollar everything to race in a class where 1 or more cars a week is destroyed and pays 50 dollars to start ...
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