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#41 Express Man

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:34 PM

Express Man, you really don't know much about Lynn Geisler.  Of course, he ran Lernerville, PPMS, and Motordrome on a regular basis, with phenomenal success, but also did quite a bit of travelling all over the area to big races, Pennsboro, Wayne County, St. Clairsville, Hagerstown, I-79, Clearfield, to name a few.  Whenever he left his home tracks he was always a contender contrary to your assertion, and was noticed by many outside of the area.  That's what it takes to get into the Hall of Fame.   Clate Husted would also be a great choice.

I have personally known and respected Lynn since he ran sprint cars at Jennerstown!  What your forgetting is where he lives!  Cranberry TWP! Lernerville.I79, St.Clairsville, Motordrome, Pittsburgh, Pennsboro?Wayne County?  all within that radius!  Hagerstown and Clearfield all probably a little over 100 miles from Home!  You can't win over 100 features at any track and not be a Legend!  But Lynn never traveled with the Stars or HavaTampa.  He did folow Macs and News!  But all mostley local shows when he did!  Lynn didn't even go to Florida many times that I can remember!  So I disagree!  I would never call Lynn a traveler!  One of the top ten ever maybe????  But not a Traveler!  Definiatley an Icon in the sport!  And Make no mistake  I have the utmost respect for his career!





 

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Posted 23 August 2015 - 11:53 PM

And for the record...I am in no way disputing that Lynn should be in the hall!  Rightfully deserved!  But its the same with Frankin and Bonebrake.  I don't consider them travelers!  They mostely raced Hagerstown.  Have I seen both of them win specials at Bedford...YES!  Have I seen them at Winchester...YES!  Have I seen Frankin in Florida in CJ's car  YES!  But did either of them travel with a series...NO!  Franklin drove for Raye Vest for a season at Hagerstown in the early 90's when Raye took Nathan on the road with Stars!  Because he didn't want to travel.  Did these guys mostley go to Pennsboro...YES!  But here is the advantage of being a Hagerstown regular!  Some of the most Iconic races have been held at Hagerstown!  Thats why it was called the Capitol of dirt track racing!  They were known for thier NDRA,Stars, Hava Tampa,  Outlaw  ect.... races!  So regulars at Hagerstown sometimes get credited with being series regulars and  travelers with series because they appear in a lot of those type races held at Hagerstown!  But once again..this is a comaprison!  Not argueing anbody's appointment  in the Hall!  Just pointing out that Rhodes has had somewhat of a similar career




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 05:40 AM

Hagerstown a 100 miles from cranberry ????? I need some of the drugs your on .....


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:53 AM

Hagerstown a 100 miles from cranberry ????? I need some of the drugs your on .....

 

Or Cranberry to Pennsboro.



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Posted 24 August 2015 - 08:38 AM

 
Or Cranberry to Pennsboro.

challenger would be outside that radius also. But only by about 30 miles. I also believe I watched him at the rock way back.

Edited by LM RACING, 24 August 2015 - 08:42 AM.


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 10:09 AM

How many of you remember the time Clate Husted took his dirt track Camaro and ran it on the Sharon pavement??  About 1971 if my memory is correct.

 

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Pretty sure he won there with the dirt car on a regular night.  He said all they had to do was change tires and put fender flares on. I guess Sharon didn't approve of the body cut outs near the wheels. Great memory Walt!




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 10:14 AM

I love how the random fella no one ever heard of is the arbiter of who should be in the HOF lol


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 04:56 PM

I was at Sharon the night Clate Husted won, using the exact same car he raced on the dirt.  It was the #23 Shoff-Frankhouser 1966 yellow Chevelle with blue numbers.  Surely a great memory. 


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 05:40 PM

Express Man, you really need to take a refresher in geography, Cranberry is over 100 miles to I-79 and damn near as far to Wayne County, Hagerstown almost 200 miles from Cranberry, Pennsboro around 150 miles.    We all get it, Scott Rhodes is a great local racer, and I even saw him beat Lynn Geisler once at a MACS race at Ebensburg, after Lynn had led most of the race.  However, there is NO comparing the racing careers of Lynn Geisler and Scott Rhodes.  Period.  The level of competition was far higher at Lernerville, PPMS, and Motordrome during the 70s and 80s  than Windber, or later at Thunder Valley and Dog Hollow, or the other tracks Scott raced.


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 05:55 PM

I agree 100% Clate would be a great addition.


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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:22 PM

One of the best drivers in this area to ever strap into a Super Late Model is Rodney Franklin. Better known as "The Virginia Leadfoot", the Cross Junction, Virginia, resident's career spanned from the 1970s through the early 2000s before his retirement from competition.

Whether it was behind the wheel of his family's No. 33 or Creed Calton's No.01, you could be sure to be in for a treat when Franklin took to the track.

Franklin made a habit of parking his car in Victory Lane throughout his racing career. Franklin is ranked fifth among local SLM superstars with 181 feature wins and has well over 300 total victories in his career. The 2004 National Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame inductee is second on the all-time wins list at Hagerstown Speedway, taking home 117 checkered flags.

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Franklin shined at big races against national competition, especially at Hagerstown. He won the first ever STARS sanctioned race held there in 1984. He beat the STARS competition twice for the Free State National 100 from 1984-85, and he won the prestigious Conococheague 100 in 1985.

Franklin also scored victories in six Bowers/Durham Memorial races. He was a four-time Hub City 150 winner, and a three-time winner each in the Johnny Roberts, Stanley Schetrompf and Ronnie McBee Memorial races.

My personal favorite Rodney Franklin win happened in 1998 at Hagerstown in the Hav-A-Tampa 100. Running in third place, he was trailing national superstars Scott Bloomquist and Billy Moyer with just 10 laps remaining. Somehow, Franklin had saved his tires long enough to make a banzai-like run over those final laps. First, he passed Moyer, then Bloomquist for the lead with just a couple of laps to go in scoring a very popular win among the large crowd at Hagerstown.

Franklin even tested the NASCAR water in his illustrious career. He made a single start in the Busch Grand National Series in 1990 at New Hampshire International Speedway. Qualifying 26th in the 46-car starting field, Franklin only completed 90 laps of the 300 lap race when engine woes ended his day with a 45th-place result.

Franklin was very good at every track he raced at. Besides his success at Hagerstown, he was pretty darn good at Winchester Speedway, too. He won the Winchester 200 twice. He held the quickest track lap time record there for several years. Franklin said in a magazine interview once that he loved racing at Winchester, and even though it was closer to his home, he preferred Hagerstown because of the speed.

Franklin also won local races at Williams Grove, Bedford and Lincoln Speedway, and he was a winner on the road as well, taking wins in Florida and Ohio. He was twice a track champion at Hagerstown in 1997 and 1998.

Throughout his career, Franklin also had driving stints for the Staub Brothers, the Staley's, Raye Vest and Bobby Allen. The Staub Brothers No. 13 car in 1983 was one of the fastest and wildest looking SLM cars to hit the track, back when the cars were known as "wedges." It was one of my all-time favorite race cars.

But he is best known for driving those orange and white No. 33 Franklin Oval Research and the red and yellow Calton Truck Service No. 01 machines. Those two numbers are most associated with Franklin and his many victories.

 

 

Add to that he was running the STARS series pretty regularly in the early days, finished 2nd at the World 100, and finished 3rd at the DTWC.

 

I like Scott Rhodes, Express Man but he doesn't even sniff the top 10 of Pennsylvania's best dirt late model drivers.

 

Just off the top of my head Wearing Sr., Herb Scott, Clate Husted, Lynn Geisler, Gary Stuhler, Rick Eckert, Chub Frank, Davey Johnson, Ed Feree, Charlie Cragen, etc.......




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:31 PM

Did Clate Husted travel to many big races in his dirt days? Ive seen on a lot of differnt tracks history page he has at least 1 win at like every track around PA., Md., Oh. I remember him winning a feature on Asphalt at Clearfield right at the end of his career and they said it was like his 498th career feature win. Dont know if he ever reached 500.




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:45 PM

It's very hard to get into the Dirt Late Model Hall of Fame. Having a name known outside of your area helps. Yes Lynn may never had been a "national" racer, he was a top "regional" racer not just a top local racer and like Dick Barton, Denny Chaimberlain, and a few other locals had the ability to go to places like Pennsboro and make the show. Sadly older racers like Husted, L.J. Dennis and many, many others get lost on younger voters,(unfortunatly some think dirt late models didn't start until the NDRA came about in 1978), plus the amount of "big" or "big paying" races were a lot less. Now, you have a dozen or so major sanction races in the region, plus a ton of smaller sanction and independent high paying races in the region, almost to the point that you might be able to go to one every weekend. The other thing that hurts guys like Rhodes is where he won races at. Sorry but winning and running well at well known tracks, vs ones not as well known will not get you recognition you might deserve.




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:52 PM

Clate Husted, like Geisler did quite a bit of traveling in the region. He won a Hillbilly 100 at Pennsboro and raced at most of the tracks that were running in the 60's and 70's. He has wins at Lernerville, Motordrome, Pennsboro, Hesston, Marion Center, Clearfield, Schmuckers, Jennerstown, Bedford, South Penn, and many others. Plus wins on the asphalt, and in the old coupes/big block modifieds.




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 06:56 PM

Clate Husted won the Hillbilly 100 at Pennsboro back in 1970.  




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 07:48 PM

Clate also ran the Smith modified at Syracuse, Charlotte and Daytona.  I know of at least one ROC at Trenton too, not sure whose car he ran then.  Western Pa. late model drivers would win starting positions in the ROC but then had to find a modified ride.




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 08:00 PM

Checked my record books and Clate Husted won on the pavement at Sharon on August 29, 1971, beating Joe Mihalic and Tommy Colella, two of the best local pavement pounders of their day!!   He also finished 3rd on Aug.22.   I think I have a photo of his dirt car at Sharon at that time, but it would take a lot of searching to find it!!

 

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Posted 24 August 2015 - 11:41 PM

I think the "point" is being missed here!  I agree with everything everyone said!  I also agree these other drivers are deserving as well.  I also think if you read D1RT's post...its almost word for word how I described Franklin's career!  Not disagreeing with anyone!  As I stated   I was just pointing out the similarity in distances traveled to race!  Not the Similarity in Difficulty of the wins!  Oviously its harder to win at a Hagerstown Stars race than Saturdaynight at TVR!  We were disputing what would be considered a "Traveler"  Not level of competition or wins!  Everything allways has to get twisted around here!  Only ever said he deserves consideration haveing 20 track championships and over 200 wins, as do these other guys!  Not that he would be a "shoe in"  Not that he would get in!  Would also like to mention Scott Haus....Another great regional driver!




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Posted 24 August 2015 - 11:44 PM

I love how the random fella no one ever heard of is the arbiter of who should be in the HOF lol

I love how the guy that has never done anything other than run his mouth on a message board is entitled to any opinion on any racing subject!  I guess just because its America.







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