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[jo73]

Lamb will be there telling everyone how great miss rush is.....good for him.

[j20000]

Lamb will be there telling everyone how great miss rush is.....good for him.

I don't know why my name is being brought up in a post about a track in which I've only raced at about 7 times in my life, plus I've actually never come on here saying anything about Rush, good bad or indifferent, but since you're giving me the opportunity, I'll oblige. I won $5900 in championship money alone this year from Rush, using a 2 year old crate engine that cost $5500, and $135 shocks! Show me a series in the country where you can do that! So do I think Miss Rush (and Mr. Rush) are great...absolutely. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak about it. Good day sir.

[scruffy1a]

I don't know why my name is being brought up in a post about a track in which I've only raced at about 7 times in my life, plus I've actually never come on here saying anything about Rush, good bad or indifferent, but since you're giving me the opportunity, I'll oblige. I won $5900 in championship money alone this year from Rush, using a 2 year old crate engine that cost $5500, and $135 shocks! Show me a series in the country where you can do that! So do I think Miss Rush (and Mr. Rush) are great...absolutely. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak about it. Good day sir.

Your name was brought up because jo73 is an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Good for you in regards to the championship money.  Can the anti-crate stock guys who build their own stuff pay for two years worth of engines and damn near a set of shocks with one season's point money?  Would anyone racing in another division that pays a point fund be willing to reply here with how much points money they took in and what one engine cost them?  I know that it's none of my (or anyone's) damn business, but I'm curious.

[94.3-RADRACER]

first off, i'm out of crates......i own lm stuff. my driver's family still has a crate, which they raced about 5-7 times. so yes, i'm asking lernerville, what are you doing to increase car counts? going to allow 1100 series tires.......get rid of dirt? with our schedule, we would like to come down, but will not buy the m series tires.....you want to praise 12 car fields, go right ahead.......if lernerville ran an all crate show, they would probably make more money weekly, you'd see better shows, and alot more winners.....crate races are fantastic there. they actually use the whole track, and not just the top. good racing puts asses in the seats, and crates put alot of cars on the track. i can see this, and i'm out of them....

[Chrome Horn]

I don't know why my name is being brought up in a post about a track in which I've only raced at about 7 times in my life, plus I've actually never come on here saying anything about Rush, good bad or indifferent, but since you're giving me the opportunity, I'll oblige. I won $5900 in championship money alone this year from Rush, using a 2 year old crate engine that cost $5500, and $135 shocks! Show me a series in the country where you can do that! So do I think Miss Rush (and Mr. Rush) are great...absolutely. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak about it. Good day sir.

 

 

Jo has no clue what he is talking about. He is anti crate so you got to take what he says for what it is. Now that a driver has told you the money he won and what he spends, you still gonna say crates are ruining racing Jo? You really get your rocks off watching 12 late models race where 3 have a legit chance to win? Versus a crate race where theres 10 cars who could win and they race all over the track not just pound the cushion.

[raceover5]

Lernerville is not a crate track. Most people go there to watch the top 3 division in dirt. not a demo derby in the crate class like ppms sometomes is.

You want to race a crate buy mercer! Can be a every crate in town track.

[jo73]

For the last time. I have always said crate lates is a good class. I no lamb had a good season, so, Justin are you moving up ? If so good, I wish you all the best. I do agree with what he is saying about the tire rule, it's hurting them and they seemingly could care less.

Now back to the great crate debate, your all correct, beside the LM, I think it's a first class hose job. Lernerville hasn't had a frost and it's been said on here guys are leaving the sportsman ranks. I really don't know how all the great minds on here no this, but, good for them. Guys used to take pride in the cars, and driveline they stayed up 1/2 the night to build. I made lernerville for 4 races this year. If, and i'm sure somebody will disagree, anyone thought the sportsman racing was better this year than in years past. Your touching yourself. The modifieds bounce of the Rev limiters a little over half way down the straight away. You can see the front of the cars just lay down. Exciting isn't it?

The sprint cars. Fields are seperated now between guys that have decent equipment and the guys that don't. So let's pick a number, I'll say 6, that are going to go to the new series. What do you think is going to happen to the 410's ? Fields are down everywhere so let's see if we can start more classes ?

Lastly, a speedway that would run a season of crate pits, in my opinion, wouldn't make a full season. Scruffy, you've put the bad mouth on me more than one time. Someone told me, I didn't know who you were, that you were Bobby Allen. LOL. You couldn't lick his nuts buddy. LOL you stay comfy behind that keyboard.

[j20000]

I am not moving up. The reason that I am such a proponent of the crate late model class is because I would never be able to afford to race if it wasn't for this class. What Rush has done for local crate racing is honestly beyond my expectations. The Manufacturers nights they put together and giving away tens of thousands of dollars every year. I raced for years with no championship/points money, so this is definitely a nice bonus every year. But to answer your question, I currently don't even have a racecar for next year, so that's where my money will go to during the off season. I'd love to move up, it's just not in the budget. We have enough of a budget to race a crate car, within 2 hours of Pittsburgh, so that's where we try to stay.

[old man d]

Justin, congrats on winning the championship and bonus money. You had some tough competition so it wasn"t easy you earned it!

[Racer17L]

These conversations kill me. Guys like Justin and Charlier wouldn't be racing if it weren't for Crates. So instead of chasing away what's left of a diminishing field of racers why don't we just put the politics aside and be happy there's a weekly field of 15-25 Crate LM versus none? If we are talking weekly programs give me that over a 9 car SLM field where only 3 cars can win.

Edited by Racer17L, 19 October 2017 - 06:15 PM.

[flash49]

For the last time. I have always said crate lates is a good class. I no lamb had a good season, so, Justin are you moving up ? If so good, I wish you all the best. I do agree with what he is saying about the tire rule, it's hurting them and they seemingly could care less.

Now back to the great crate debate, your all correct, beside the LM, I think it's a first class hose job. Lernerville hasn't had a frost and it's been said on here guys are leaving the sportsman ranks. I really don't know how all the great minds on here no this, but, good for them. Guys used to take pride in the cars, and driveline they stayed up 1/2 the night to build. I made lernerville for 4 races this year. If, and i'm sure somebody will disagree, anyone thought the sportsman racing was better this year than in years past. Your touching yourself. The modifieds bounce of the Rev limiters a little over half way down the straight away. You can see the front of the cars just lay down. Exciting isn't it?

The sprint cars. Fields are seperated now between guys that have decent equipment and the guys that don't. So let's pick a number, I'll say 6, that are going to go to the new series. What do you think is going to happen to the 410's ? Fields are down everywhere so let's see if we can start more classes ?

Lastly, a speedway that would run a season of crate pits, in my opinion, wouldn't make a full season. Scruffy, you've put the bad mouth on me more than one time. Someone told me, I didn't know who you were, that you were Bobby Allen. LOL. You couldn't lick his nuts buddy. LOL you stay comfy behind that keyboard.

 

I have no problem with you or your posts, but the reason the Crate divisions have done well is because of cost.  Justin Lamb just told you he runs Crates because that is what he can afford. And he is just one of many. What is so hard to figure out about that?  As one who has seen far more Crate shows in this area than you have, I would say you are wrong that the Crate cars don't provide good racing.  I have rarely seen a bad Crate show at PPMS, Lernerville, Tr-City, and many others.  '

 

I don't want the Crates to replace the Big Three, but I have no problem enjoying the product they put out.  

[bhhracing]

So you guys are saying if it wasnt for crates they wouldnt be able to race? Since when did a 4 cylinder, pure stock, econo mod,ect cost more than a winning crate? Just admit you dont have enough money to race a late model which you would like to do. 

[mod110s]

I'm just wondering what classes the couple of you are calling the top 3 classes? Not trying to argue just wondering what is considered top 3 in this area

[flash49]

I'm just wondering what classes the couple of you are calling the top 3 classes? Not trying to argue just wondering what is considered top 3 in this areaIn

 

 

 

In this area that would be the Super Late Models,  Big Block Modifieds, and 410 Winged Sprints.

[jo73]

Flash, did you read my post ? The crate lates are good racing. Period, it's a good class of cars. There is not a thing hard to figure out. You've been around a long time. The racing and the racers of today in my opinion are not on the same level of guys that used to race. The competition level was much greater. I guess, in fact, I no it's me. I miss the old days, I miss the rivalries. I miss B mains and watching a 24 car field of each of the big 3. Racing has changed to my displeasure. I doubt if I'm the only one that feels that way. I wonder if people really understand if Mercer can't find a buyer or the history that may become a memory. My best memory of that place was getting the black bandit Steve smith to the track and I ended up helping him crew that night. Yea I keep driving back up, there is still fans in the stands at lernerville, I look around and I wonder, how many of these people actually no how great the place was.

[j20000]

Thank you gentleman for the comments.

[94.3-RADRACER]

you put head phones on most fans, and have them watch a rush race at lernerville, or a slm race, and the rush race would leave you 5 times more satisfied......most wouldn't know the difference...yes, racing has changed, and we don't buy parts at junk yards either......we used to keep more of our pay too........gas was 89 cents, milk was 50 cents a gallon.....tires were, motors were, shocks were, kids were..........well, now all those things that were, are not now. hell, big boys dropping off tours, veterans getting out.........don't you guys[veteran's in the bleachers]  understand the cost? the rest of the racing community does, as to why crates are thriving.........and lernerville is a perfect crate track... soon to be all crate?

[BaconBits]

first off, i'm out of crates......i own lm stuff. my driver's family still has a crate, which they raced about 5-7 times. so yes, i'm asking lernerville, what are you doing to increase car counts? going to allow 1100 series tires.......get rid of dirt? with our schedule, we would like to come down, but will not buy the m series tires.....you want to praise 12 car fields, go right ahead.......if lernerville ran an all crate show, they would probably make more money weekly, you'd see better shows, and alot more winners.....crate races are fantastic there. they actually use the whole track, and not just the top. good racing puts asses in the seats, and crates put alot of cars on the track. i can see this, and i'm out of them....

Fans do not like crates. They are not a draw. This has been proven thousands of times over. That is never going to change.

You have all the answers all the time. You are consistently proven wrong, yet you spread your blatant stupidity constantly. I remember when you claimed e-mods were the answer to everything. That worked out, right?

But go ahead, continue embarrassing yourself. Everybody with a clue just laughs at your worthless opinions.

[Chrome Horn]

Fans do not like crates. They are not a draw. This has been proven thousands of times over. That is never going to change.

You have all the answers all the time. You are consistently proven wrong, yet you spread your blatant stupidity constantly. I remember when you claimed e-mods were the answer to everything. That worked out, right?

But go ahead, continue embarrassing yourself. Everybody with a clue just laughs at your worthless opinions.

 

 

yes watching 12 supers where 3 can legit win is a draw for me

[mod110s]

you put head phones on most fans, and have them watch a rush race at lernerville, or a slm race, and the rush race would leave you 5 times more satisfied......most wouldn't know the difference...yes, racing has changed, and we don't buy parts at junk yards either......we used to keep more of our pay too........gas was 89 cents, milk was 50 cents a gallon.....tires were, motors were, shocks were, kids were..........well, now all those things that were, are not now. hell, big boys dropping off tours, veterans getting out.........don't you guys[veteran's in the bleachers]  understand the cost? the rest of the racing community does, as to why crates are thriving.........and lernerville is a perfect crate track... soon to be all crate?

I agree. Crate motors are one of the best things to come to late models. I don't much agree with em in stock cars cause it's been proven this year that sure ain't the answer for different winners from what I've been told. If there's not something major changes in late models and their classes there won't be a class. I see a ton of people I know having more and more big crate late shows down south then super lates and drawing more cars. Everywhere. From way most y'all are talking lernerville won't change anything. That's what one my points started out being was change. Bring something different to lernerville for the fans. Let em see a diff winner there instead of same 4 winners and a diff class. Hell if I could I would love to run a crate late but the car itself is to high for my budget