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[sle21]

it's a stockcar chassis guys. they don't put down the traction that a purpose built racecar does. go ahead and spend 15K+ on a big cube motor that puts out 650hp+ and tell me how much of it you can actually use.  McPherson smoked them all with a worn out 400hp crate engine at lernerville last year.  I'd love nothing more than to be able to build my own motors as well, but if someone wants to spend that much money to have someone else build their motor for them, then let them. you aren't going to get the advantage that you think your getting. it's really not rocket science to build a high output 350 sbc.  it's been done millions of times over and their is tons of literature out there on how to do it.

[whiteboy55]

McPherson smoked them all with a worn out 400hp crate engine at lernerville last year. 

 

exactly why it should be an option and NOT mandatory!

[DavyLee2]

The press release says 46 cars .. Imagine that .. Promoting Government Motors with " Fake News" ..  Just a joke 55 don't get mad at me ! but if you know anyone at 2/4 and 11 .. they will want to run with it tonight at 11 ! and 51 cars ! proves two things : Global warming and Trump colluded with Russia to pay Stormy Daniels to rig the election ! !

 There were 56 cars at the Laboone last year .. and it paid more than the Elite class field race last night in Delaware ! what's that mean ?? nothing to me but just saying ..

Anyhoo

 Congrats to a good run for Scott gun and good luck to the kid Chistian Sneider who was out there too

 Rush is all well and good and great for some racing But Forcing people to buy in is just like Obamacare ! ..

 " The road to Tyranny is paved with good Intentions " .... 

 

 Nobody answered the question

 Fastrack and some othere series motor ( if I remember right ) are NOT Legal in RUSH

 

 Is the Motor the same with Different Bolts   Or

 The Bolts the same and  Different Motor ?

and how much would it cost to get RUSH bolts on your Motor if you already spent 6500 on  Fastrack Bolts ?

 My guess is they would say .. cant be  be done buy a new one

Edited by DavyLee2, 19 April 2018 - 05:44 PM.

[94.3-RADRACER]

davylee2, just proves how little you know about crate lm racing....wow.

[Chrome Horn]

Now im waiting for those 2 einsteins JO and Jim to come on here and somehow turn the fact they got over 40 cars into how crate racing is ruining racing blah blah

Edited by Chrome Horn, 19 April 2018 - 06:40 PM.

[FanJim24]

I don't think I have much more I can say. I'm not a car expert. I'm not a driver. I'm a fan, and i know that the quality of racing has dropped noticeably at one of the top tracks in the country after 2 things happened, the track was resurfaced and crates were mandated in what was the raciest division at that track. I can't speak from a driver or car owner's perspective, but I can speak from a fan's perspective. Obviously, some of you aren't interested in what us lowly butts in the seats think, but you still can't answer the most obvious question, where will the Rush empire be without us? 

[DavyLee2]

I have a crate motor with no bolts and a different cam
I asked the question about purchasing upgrades
And the supposed Crate motor thats legal in one sanctioned body but NOT the other
Please explain so I may learn
What I do know about Crate racing is that with a weight advantage my car can run top 10 times in Penn Ohio just like tMcphesrson in the 33
So forcing me to buy bolts is the obvious objective at lernervilee and NOT anything else
Ps if its not obvious to some buying bolts is not a literal description just a metaphor for one monopoly motor seller ie bolts supposedly the motors are the same not counting the lightweight crank Etc upgrades
Pas
There were 38 sportsman both open and crates racing together at the Pittsburgh and the same time there were about the same at Mercers little guys in October running crates and opens together
Whats wrong with that

Edited by DavyLee2, 20 April 2018 - 01:52 PM.

[94.3-RADRACER]

do what you want, and quit whining.........guys like it, or it wouldn't grow like it has....

[DavyLee2]

do what you want, and quit whining.........guys like it, or it wouldn't grow like it has....

Lets both do what we want !
Penn Ohio
Guys like it , or it wouldnt grow like it I has

[jo73]

Chrome !!! You read what you want to read. This early in the year what do you think ? guys are going to let there cars sit on jackstands in the garage ? I'm glad they had such large fields for the first 2 races many of these guys are getting in. Your thinking is so one sided it amazes me. They don't have to have total domination of all racing. What do you not get about that ? I repeatedly asked the question of how is a promotor suppose to survive with a schedule of all crate racing ? Yet, no one comes up with a answer. They can't, because what's going to happen is the same thing that is happening here in the south. There is no one in the stands. 

 

The last race I attended down here was the fall race at Screven. By the way, they only run specials. They had a excellent field of crate LM, the top 5 cars put on a freight train race, which yes is common today. These guys were coming in with there toter's and trailers you would have thought they were following the lucas series. NEW xr-1's and longhorns dominated the racing. Dominated, so if you don't go out and buy that new chassis you better not expect to much. Watch closely, the winners will be well funded operations. I made the comment months ago, it was a 2 day show, I was at day 1. Good racing, little chill in the air. NOT 25 PEOPLE IN THE STANDS. Defend that, please do so. You can't and will say I'm a genius, far from it, but you can't carry on a conversation about what's happening right before your eyes. So if total domination becomes a reality, just how many tracks do you think are going to survive ? 

 

I know why Screven survives. Every show they put on they bring the 4 cylinders, they pay them well and the noisy little bastards are everywhere. LOL. These guys don't have tire bills, most if not all are probably built under 5000.00 I would think. Sportsman racing is not your entry level of racing anymore. Guys building chassis read between the lines and if you don't have a built car. Well, promotors let that get out of hand long time ago. So you have the penn/ohio series. Great series. Guys can do a great deal of the work on there cars themselves. Again, a group comes in and says Hey, that class is growing and the racing is really good. But, I want a takeover, I want to offer cheap racing. Well, how did that work out for the fans ? 

 

Let's see come the hot summer months what the track in Sarver is going to do. Racing, Wednesday and Friday. In what was at one time mostly farm land. Not anymore. Let's see how the track surface is going to hold up and everyone starts bitching about Friday's track being garbage. Tomson's are first and foremost business people. IF they decide to dump the Wednesday series for the great savior of sprint car racing. Then what ? 

 

OK. don't forget to bitch, these boards can't survive with out it. I think it's time to go to the beach and get one of those drinks with a umbrella.   

[FanJim24]

 

Let's see come the hot summer months what the track in Sarver is going to do. Racing, Wednesday and Friday. In what was at one time mostly farm land. Not anymore. Let's see how the track surface is going to hold up and everyone starts bitching about Friday's track being garbage. Tomson's are first and foremost business people. IF they decide to dump the Wednesday series for the great savior of sprint car racing. Then what ? 

 

One of the problems for the last 2 years has been that the surface has actually been too good. Ride the cushion, get in line, hang on, and don't get off the cushion or you'll be in the back before you know what happened. It's exacerbated by the can't lift motors in what was the division best able to put on a race previously. Maybe the open motors along with the crates would help that, maybe not, but we have no way to know, since they only run the open motors once a year now and the open drivers are rusty at Lernerville every time they run. Except for the sprints there are a handful of drivers who can do any passing at all on the bottom, and only one of them with any shot at winning. Kenny Schaltenbrand can get to about 3-5 on the bottom, Joey Zambotti can get a couple positions until he wrecks, and Tyler Deitz stands a very good shot at 2nd. Sprints aren't really much better. Every pass that has happened other than Mat Williamson has happened within 2 laps of the green waving, (starts and restarts), and most of that is the big $$$ guys passing the budget guys.  It's so bad that Michael Norris got a back marker had to just follow him, because he was in the one groove. When he got impatient and left the single groove to pass, Russ King didn't leave the groove. To be honest Russ was able to make that pass on the lapper later.

Edited by FanJim24, 21 April 2018 - 01:30 PM.

[dirtstudent2]

Jo73 I read only one error made. Early on you used the word promoter when you should have said "track owner". The promoter is obviously doing very well marketing goods and services to racers and track per the car count.

The pedalor will just move and push something else if the product they sell kills front gate ticket sales. When a superior show is offered tracks with about a garenteed increase in ticket sales and profitability will be charged for the show. The pedalers to racer's need the tracks and the tracks don't need them hurting front gate sales. The solution for tracks is to charge the pedalers a fair price to be included in the show, the same as they charge racer's for there touted goods and services.

It's not like there bringing you a show marketed to fill the stands, there only reason to knock on your door is without you they can't exist. Track owner they need you, you don't need them. Squeeze every penny you can from them, invest it in your racer's and your racer's will put fan's in the stands.

[sicario]

I see there is gping to be a big learnimg curve for kids starting in the rush wingless sprints.... at least if practice at Thunder Mountain is any indication. Def wouldn't strap a kid or new racer in one. Lutz and Ruth should have an interesting season tho.

[BUTTBEAK]

I see plenty of passing across the bottom, in all divisions at Lernerville....

[Paul55]

Good thing the supers are putting the people in the stands. Since they have a full field of 12 cars lmfao! Crate take over is coming!

[sicario]

The entire car count at Lernerville sucks. 61 or 62 cars total and the highest car count per class is stocks at 18. The only track that runs crate stocks and.... they have 18... How many supers weren't there because they're following ulms and would've been in route to TM prior to canceling? Again, yes Lernerville's slm counts have been dwindling but that probelm isn't shared on the northern circuit and TM doesn't have the tire rule.

Edited by sicario, 27 April 2018 - 08:53 PM.

[94.3-RADRACER]

the management  at lernetville must still be a puppet to dirt, because any one of us could put -10 more supers with one change.....but, now the track is not good either......slide city.