Jump to content





Photo

Fair price for tracks to charge vendors for use during a regular show?


  • Please log in to reply
43 replies to this topic

#21 blue by you

blue by you

    Insane Racer

  • Members
  • 1,025 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:01 AM

ALL of us agree crate late models and pro mods produce good racing, but the issue is Rush closed the open motors at Lernerville for only crates in the pro stocks. Tell me why they can"t race open with crates, and don"t tell me this crap it is best for racing. And don"t  answer my question with a question! Just give a straight answer on why they can"t race both.

I think because they are a rush series divison running for series weekly points. an there not going to let open motor cars run with them........just my though.





 

#22 old man d

old man d

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 628 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:11 AM

blue by you, you might be right on that. I would like Rush to come on here and explain why, it might just calm some people down. Then again maybe not! We really need to get some racing in this week-end.




#23 sicario

sicario

    Fast Newbie

  • Members
  • 466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:15 AM

Yes, that's why because of the weekly series. Same with economods not being able to run with pro mods at stateline but again, rush stepping in and making rush only classes that weren't needed and saying get in line or get out is what has some upset.


#24 dirtstudent2

dirtstudent2

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,366 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:.

Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:45 AM

A product was created definitely sold and marketed to racers.  Fastrack has said on here not only the racers but tracks are their customers.  I see racers wanting to both move up or move down to something they feel gives them a more affordable chance for success, I get that

 

What I don't get is how tracks defined also as customers are willing to pay or negotiate anything out of their pockets effectively providing a free venue for someone else's customers.  At a minimum tracks should charge the sellers of the new type of racing product $2000 a race night for the use of their track.  An alternative would be to charge the racers who bought into the fixed entry level program $50 to $100 per car over current back gate fees depending on nightly count for the exclusive right they demand to use their track.  

 

I was at Tricity last year and had to endure the huge pase in the program while the announcer touted the wares and excitement gifting peanut prizes to their customers.  We fans got it thrown at us with fanfare rivaling WoO, Lucas, Allstar exuberance.  Well I'll tell you all this now, sometimes if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it's not a duck.

 

The greatest thing I saw at Tricity that day was the great run the obviously well setup lesser car of Butch Beasley who started his current carrier weekly at Tricity had in his heat race.  My hats off to you Butch your car looked great and is my most notable remembrance of the 2017 racing season.  Good Job Butch!


Edited by dirtstudent2, 24 April 2018 - 10:48 AM.



#25 blue by you

blue by you

    Insane Racer

  • Members
  • 1,025 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 10:52 AM

I really feel that the deal at lernerville was nothing more than a big MONEY GRAB for rush an the promoter at the time. why else would you mandate a motor in a class that was alive an doing very well. with some of the best racing of the night I just hope she dosen't try to target other tracks.




#26 sicario

sicario

    Fast Newbie

  • Members
  • 466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 24 April 2018 - 11:01 AM

There are many parts involved with that but i feel you are correct. The owners have to play along and yea, they get money up front but at what cost? Penn ohio has grown and will contiue to do so with their payouts and contingencies and they are focused on only 1 class. And they're growing this year with guys leaving lernerville to run the series and other tracks with penn ohio rules.


#27 dirtstudent2

dirtstudent2

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,366 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:.

Posted 24 April 2018 - 01:58 PM

Including as many racers as possible will always make for better racing and car counts, then EXCLUDING racers.




#28 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:23 PM

There are many parts involved with that but i feel you are correct. The owners have to play along and yea, they get money up front but at what cost? Penn ohio has grown and will contiue to do so with their payouts and contingencies and they are focused on only 1 class. And they're growing this year with guys leaving lernerville to run the series and other tracks with penn ohio rules.

 

Who's leaving Lernerville to run Penn Ohio?




#29 sicario

sicario

    Fast Newbie

  • Members
  • 466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:41 PM

 
Who's leaving Lernerville to run Penn Ohio?

I heard Jim Fos is one of a few


#30 94.3-RADRACER

94.3-RADRACER

    Member

  • Members
  • 6,661 posts
  • Interests:hunting,fishing,racing

Posted 24 April 2018 - 03:53 PM

yawn.........are you ladies done yet?




#31 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:13 PM

I heard Jim Fos is one of a few

 

You heard?  Oh, you made it sound like you knew and guys suggests plural.

 

I heard that Jimmy sold everything, but I also heard a few years ago that he was done and wasn't gonna race with a crate engine.  I guess time will tell.

 

Any other "guys" you know of or is that the depth and breadth of your intel?




#32 sicario

sicario

    Fast Newbie

  • Members
  • 466 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 24 April 2018 - 04:25 PM

Both fos's was what I've been told specifically. I've heard there are others that have discussed running the penn ohio series in favor of staying at lernerville but sith that being simply "discussing" that's where i'm leaving that. I guess come friday we will know more eh?

Edited by sicario, 24 April 2018 - 04:45 PM.



#33 blue by you

blue by you

    Insane Racer

  • Members
  • 1,025 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 06:03 PM

lernerville will be at ppms on may 5 racing. I think thats there first race.




#34 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 09:33 PM

Both fos's was what I've been told specifically. I've heard there are others that have discussed running the penn ohio series in favor of staying at lernerville but sith that being simply "discussing" that's where i'm leaving that. I guess come friday we will know more eh?

 

Jason hasn't raced in the division for several years, so you still have "heard" that one current driver "might" be leaving the track/division for Penn Ohio.  You see how misleading your previous post was, right?  You should apply for a job at Fox News or Twitter.  Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story, a clickbait headline or hot take.




#35 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 24 April 2018 - 09:34 PM

lernerville will be at ppms on may 5 racing. I think thats there first race.

 

Lernerville will be at PPMS?  So Fab4 is running there or are they trucking that not-so-red clay down to Imperial?  You must get you intel from the same place sicario does!




#36 blue by you

blue by you

    Insane Racer

  • Members
  • 1,025 posts

Posted 25 April 2018 - 08:47 AM

 

Lernerville will be at PPMS?  So Fab4 is running there or are they trucking that not-so-red clay down to Imperial?  You must get you intel from the same place sicario does!

check ppms web site champ!!




#37 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 25 April 2018 - 03:53 PM

lernerville will be at ppms on may 5 racing. I think thats there first race

 

There's nothing on PPMS's website about Lernerville being at PPMS, this post still makes no sense. what the hell are you talking about????




#38 DegenerationX

DegenerationX

    Race Fan

  • Members
  • 682 posts

Posted 25 April 2018 - 03:55 PM

PPMS's new website is awesome though!  That Zufall kid is a whiz with all that stuff, website, scoring, social media, I hope the Mileys appreciate what a gem they have in that kid!




#39 whiteboy55

whiteboy55

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,066 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:pittsburgh

Posted 25 April 2018 - 04:23 PM

they (PPMS) are having two stock car features on opening night, one for Lernerville Rush crate stocks and the other for PPMS open stocks.

it does not make sense to me either!



Stacie White

#40 bhhracing

bhhracing

    Insane Racer

  • Members
  • 1,564 posts

Posted 25 April 2018 - 06:17 PM

Just another way of getting more people in the back gate because you know nobody will be in the stands to watch a bunch of lower class divisions for $15.





2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users


    Bing (1)