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[Walt Wimer]

Where are you from???    Don't seem to be from the western PA area??  We have four different kinds of Modifieds running in our area and actually six if you want to split the big blocks and 358s and the Econo-Mods from the Pro-Mods, which are the same cars but limited to a crate engine. They race at Stateline Speedway and a couple of other tracks..  No one "worked up" around here, just trying to straighten you out on what class is what!!

 

GOOD RACING!!!

 

Walt

[dirtstudent2]

"No one "worked up" around here, just trying to straighten you out on what class is what!!"

 

 

Walt I think most of the country calls emods modified's. 

[sicario]

"No one "worked up" around here, just trying to straighten you out on what class is what!!"
 
 
Walt I think most of the country calls emods modified's. 

Everywhere but the northeast

[mod110s]

From Arkansas. And everywhere else in the country calls them Modifieds. Except this area around here. Thats What I was meaning. And from what Ive seen and people Ive met, almost most tracks but Lernerville runs Modifieds. I really liked the track the other night and wish I could run on it more, especially since Im only in seven fields but guess limited to once a year.

Where are you from???    Don't seem to be from the western PA area??  We have four different kinds of Modifieds running in our area and actually six if you want to split the big blocks and 358s and the Econo-Mods from the Pro-Mods, which are the same cars but limited to a crate engine. They race at Stateline Speedway and a couple of other tracks..  No one "worked up" around here, just trying to straighten you out on what class is what!!
 
GOOD RACING!!!
 
Walt

[Walt Wimer]

The only true "Modifieds" are the ones in the Northeast, which grew from the coupes decades ago and run big block engines or 358 small blocks. .  What we call "E-Mods" were not around way back then. They started in Iowa, maybe in the 70s, a class started by Keith Knnack which originally had engine claims as a support class. Some guy or group out around Indiana came up with the E-Mod class name, which basically meant "Economy Modifieds".  The class crept east and into West Virginia before Pittsburgh was the first track in western PA to give them a try about 1992. And they have been around ever since, but always as a support class, with lower costs and purses than the big block Modifieds, Sprint Cars and Late Models.

 

      And if one wants to really go back into the history of "Modifieds", go back to the early days of NASCAR in the late 1940s-early 1950s!!!   Back then all weekly racing was old coupes from the 1930s. There were "Modifieds" and "Sportsman" back then with the Modifieds allowed OHV V-8 engines and multiple carbs, while the Sportsman were limited to one small carb and sometimes just Flathead Ford and in-line 6-cylinder engines. The bodies were the same in both classes and basically stock.  Over the years there has been a ton of change and things happened differently in different parts of the country and with different time lines.  However, the "Modified" remained "king" in the Northeast, with very little weekly Late Model or Sprint Car racing in that part of the country except for central PA's Sprint Cars.  We here in western PA are on the western fringe of big block Modified racing, with really none west of here, and our purses are well off what is paid in New York.  And very little "E-Mod" racing up New York way. Up there they have a "Sportsman" class that runs the same type of cars as the big blocks with crate engines under the hood.  The western PA RUSH Sportsman Modified class grew from the New York class and has been very successful around here.  And the so called "Econo-Mods" are just E-Mods limited to a 2 barrel carb. and are often known as "Sport-Modifieds out in the Midwest.  And BTW to mod110s....Lernervile runs the big block Modifieds on a weekly basis, but none of the other three "Modified" classes.  However, all of those classes do have weekly tracks in the area and their cars come to Lernerville for special events such as the annual Stampede.

 

GOOD RACING TO ALL

 

Walt      

[jo73]

The Northeast big block mods are a staple across new jersey and new York mostly. I will say Pennsylvania has probably more different classes throughout the state more so than any other state period. Western pa to state college is in my opinion first late model country. Sprint cars and then the big block mods.

You travel beyond mid state and it opens up more so. The modifieds go from 358's to big blocks and I would say there count is the exact oposite of western pa.

With today's car counts i don't see how the big 3 can survive in western pa

[dirtstudent2]

Nice story and history Walt but most at the track today already know it the same as you.

 

 

I still think it's about time for open type FWD's. 

 

The ONLY reason for the story you told Wald is that's what people drove back then.  Today people drive FWD's, ain't no reason they can't be made to keep up with a winged sprint.  Get FWD's steppin out in the fast category and today's 'people' will pay their nickle to come through the front gate to watch.  FWD's are no step child, there about today and should be made into something special on a dirt oval the same as there made for the public/people something special driftin and other forms of motoring.

 

Weather you accept it or not Walt, everywhere else but where already mentioned emods are in fact modified's because that's what people choose to call them..

 

edit:  Ain't no reason instead of "the" big 3 it can't be "the" big 4.  Sprints, Late's, big blocks and FWD's.  Tube frame, engine up front with FWD, maybe make them look like a small SUV or something else to get some aero into them and let the mechanic/racers have at it.  Then when they get too fast reel them in a little with some stupid rules the same as was done to sprints.  Till then they should be no minimum weight and open max 6 cylinder engines so long as there FWD.  Why shouldn't there be open fuel, turbo and nitrous stuff on dirt ovals?  Keep livin in the past and dirt oval race tracks will be a thing of the past.   Wouldn't it be cool sittin in the stands at Lernerville when a FWD hit the nos bottle down the front stretch?    

Edited by dirtstudent2, 16 October 2018 - 10:07 PM.

[Walt Wimer]

I know that they call the just "Modifieds", but that is sort of a pet peeve with me, having grown up with the coupe Modifieds to what we have today.  And they are only a support class around here when one considers the purses paid.  At lernerville it was $3,000 to win the big block race vs just $1,000 for the E-Mods and $500 for the Econo-Mods!!

 

GOOD RACING!!!

 

Walt

[dirtstudent2]

"but that is sort of a pet peeve with me"

 

understood and accepted I won't pester you more on it

[daviesfan4life]

I will say Pennsylvania has probably more different classes throughout the state more so than any other state period. 

 

Yeah, there are way too many.

[weinerdog]

the late model race was good and I think the Rush Modified race was awesome but then again Im a little bias.......

[weinerdog]

the late model race was good and I think the Rush Modified race was awesome but then again Im a little bias.......

[BaconBits]

Nice story and history Walt but most at the track today already know it the same as you.
 
 
I still think it's about time for open type FWD's. 
 
The ONLY reason for the story you told Wald is that's what people drove back then.  Today people drive FWD's, ain't no reason they can't be made to keep up with a winged sprint.  Get FWD's steppin out in the fast category and today's 'people' will pay their nickle to come through the front gate to watch.  FWD's are no step child, there about today and should be made into something special on a dirt oval the same as there made for the public/people something special driftin and other forms of motoring.
 
Weather you accept it or not Walt, everywhere else but where already mentioned emods are in fact modified's because that's what people choose to call them..
 
edit:  Ain't no reason instead of "the" big 3 it can't be "the" big 4.  Sprints, Late's, big blocks and FWD's.  Tube frame, engine up front with FWD, maybe make them look like a small SUV or something else to get some aero into them and let the mechanic/racers have at it.  Then when they get too fast reel them in a little with some stupid rules the same as was done to sprints.  Till then they should be no minimum weight and open max 6 cylinder engines so long as there FWD.  Why shouldn't there be open fuel, turbo and nitrous stuff on dirt ovals?  Keep livin in the past and dirt oval race tracks will be a thing of the past.   Wouldn't it be cool sittin in the stands at Lernerville when a FWD hit the nos bottle down the front stretch?    

This is the most retarded thing youve ever posted.

[DirtxxxRacing]

This is the most retarded thing youve ever posted.

 

And that's saying something!

[dirtstudent2]

This is the most retarded thing youve ever posted.

 

Thanks, then I'll add forget the body work the open FWD's should also be open wheel cars.  And to mellow it out limit tires to what's on Winged Sprint cars now.  How bout a 104" right front tire?