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[Mod Pro]

Any?

[Benny K]

Bowser wins Sprints, Norris in Todd Cerrenza's car in the Supers, Williamson in Mods, Deitz in stocks. 22 sprints, 20 late models, 18 mods, 15 stocks

[tonyp]

Track was very slick. Best race of the night was the modified feature, Williamson came from the 10th starting spot and ran down Shingledecker and Murdick passing Murdick in 3 and 4 on the last lap.

[Sparkler]

Technically there is not 20 late models. Three of those or crate cars that showed up with the incorrect Tire. I heard they are going to allow crate cars to race in a late-model class now as long as you have the proper tires. Is this their way of resurrecting the late model car count?

[jo73]

So there going to make crate guys buy into that stupid tire rule. I don't think you'll see them back.

[jms22]

Crates were told by staff prior to that crate tires were allowed. A couple of the super late guys went and complained to Smokey because the crates werent on LMs.

[march66]

super late pay = super late cost per tire   buck eighty each   that's part of the reason the car count is very soft

[Walt Wimer]

jms22.................Must have been a couple of the back markers as I am sure the front runners were not worried about a couple of crates on different tires.  The guys that complained must have been worried that they would get beat by the crates!!!  Last week there were three cartes that ran, so I guess the change was made after that. One of crates was the white #77, which was lapped about four or more times in the main last week!!

 

Walt

[jo73]

Boy isn't that exciting to watch. Wait till one of them unintentionally causes a pile up because of the difference in closing speed. You protectors say anything you want to say. Crate racing is killing western pa racing. Lamb I know your going to protect her. I want to ask you a ??? If there was no crate racing, where would you be today ? What division ? You must love doing what you are doing ?

That is the only point being made here. Guys that love to race dirt would still be doing so.

To many tracks is what is hurting south western pa, because there doing fine up north. Could you imagine what the fields would be without the crates.

There goal is to close tracks. Then the tracks that do survive will be totally under her control. She has sharon and ppms right were she wants them.

Why no post from lernerville pr or flash today ? huh.

[jo73]

Walt, I think the guys have a right to complain, back marker or not they have $700+ in a set of tires. I'm sure the back marker guys are buying used rubber. If not, and lernerville dries up and gets real slick, these guys are just throwing money at tires to go do something they love to do.

[D1RT]

jms22.................Must have been a couple of the back markers as I am sure the front runners were not worried about a couple of crates on different tires.  The guys that complained must have been worried that they would get beat by the crates!!!  Last week there were three cartes that ran, so I guess the change was made after that. One of crates was the white #77, which was lapped about four or more times in the main last week!!
 
Walt

They are running in the super late division run under the WRG/UMP late model rules.
Why should they be any different than the rest of the late model teams?
I guess it would be okay for Lernerville to tell Miss Rush that they are going to let the Fastrak engine crate lates run the Rush races??

[Racer17L]

Beginning of the end of weekly SLM racing at Lernerville.

[Chrome Horn]

Boy isn't that exciting to watch. Wait till one of them unintentionally causes a pile up because of the difference in closing speed. You protectors say anything you want to say. Crate racing is killing western pa racing. Lamb I know your going to protect her. I want to ask you a ??? If there was no crate racing, where would you be today ? What division ? You must love doing what you are doing ?

That is the only point being made here. Guys that love to race dirt would still be doing so.

To many tracks is what is hurting south western pa, because there doing fine up north. Could you imagine what the fields would be without the crates.

There goal is to close tracks. Then the tracks that do survive will be totally under her control. She has sharon and ppms right were she wants them.

Why no post from lernerville pr or flash today ? huh.

To answer your question moron, Justin has said numerous times if it wasn't for rush he would not be racing. This has been told you over and over but you're too stupid to figure it out. Crate racing is hardly killing racing around here. Infact without it there would be easily 20 plus drivers who would be on the sidelines. I guess your wish is to chase people out of the sport.

[jo73]

U no 2hat jackoff I don't call u a lucking name. Your a brave cocksucker behind a keyboard....

[BaconBits]

Beginning of the end of weekly SLM racing at Lernerville.

Is it the end of weekly super late model racing at Thunder Mountain and Bedford too? Because they both had less cars than Lernerville.

[kaw1109]

Drivers and team's dieing off are just victim's of there own power.. the racer is what blew 80% of the cost of racing up, Always updating/upgrading,new chassis, buying new tires every week, every year its something new, which forces other race teams to buy up dates/upgrades to be competitive some times spending money they don't have or shouldn't have to spend, Racing is just blown so far out of perportion I think most people forgot what racing is even about. If People would concentrate more about the racing instead of what car is racing where or what Engine is in it. just be happy to see the cars that are still out there racing cause dirt "Racing is only a matter of time"

[FanJim24]

Drivers and team's dieing off are just victim's of there own power.. the racer is what blew 80% of the cost of racing up, Always updating/upgrading,new chassis, buying new tires every week, every year its something new, which forces other race teams to buy up dates/upgrades to be competitive some times spending money they don't have or shouldn't have to spend, Racing is just blown so far out of perportion I think most people forgot what racing is even about. If People would concentrate more about the racing instead of what car is racing where or what Engine is in it. just be happy to see the cars that are still out there racing cause dirt "Racing is only a matter of time"

I see Lernerville and other tracks building their own gallows, in that sense, by eliminating their entry level class, which was also the class with the best racing. I understand that they had to allow stock cars to use some fabricated parts when it became impossible to find entire junk car bodies, but then to "keep costs down" they prohibited the guys who would go ahead and build up a bone yard motor, just to get some seat time and hope to work up to better equipment, (Paul Schreckengost, Bob Lipinsky, etc.). Now you have to be able to afford a fabricated chassis and $7,000 motor, that you can't even fix, just to get on the track at the lowest level in their weekly program. There is no entry level class at Lernerville anymore. 

Edited by FanJim24, 15 June 2019 - 05:07 PM.

[Walt Wimer]

But at least partially, that is what brings the crowds to Lernerville!!   The paying fans want to see the three top classes of racing, Sprint Cars, Late Models and big block Modifieds!!  With the exception of family and friends, who goes to the races to see Mini-stocks run???   Yet Mercer is getting 30 of them a week and that back gate helps pay the purse for the big blocks and the limited Sprints and Mods.

 

GOOD RACING TO ALL!!

 

Walt

[FanJim24]

But at least partially, that is what brings the crowds to Lernerville!!   The paying fans want to see the three top classes of racing, Sprint Cars, Late Models and big block Modifieds!!  With the exception of family and friends, who goes to the races to see Mini-stocks run???   Yet Mercer is getting 30 of them a week and that back gate helps pay the purse for the big blocks and the limited Sprints and Mods.

 

GOOD RACING TO ALL!!

 

Walt

Sorry Walt, I respect your viewpoint, but I don't agree. Do you think that the back gate is capable of replacing the front gate completely? I don't have the time or money to go to the races every week anymore, and that's become easy. I just remember that there's no more 4 wide with a legitimate chance to pass. The "pro stocks" that are not pro, and would be disqualified for showing up stock are the same 3 people with the biggest checkbooks out spending each other. I get it, money bought speed even when they were mostly stock, but you still had your Glen Nolands showing up with cars that looked like they were going to fall apart and just out-driving everyone else. I don't want to take anything away from the top 3 drivers in the not a single stock part stocks, they can all drive, but no one else can touch the money they have in their cars either. 

 

And yes, if the racing is good, I'll pay to watch mini stocks. I go to the enduros. When I went on a Wednesday night last year, it sure wasn't to watch a bunch of Vicki sprints, but again, if the racing was any good in that division I would have enjoyed it. Truth is, none of it was at all memorable, at least not in a good way, although, the UTVs were memorably bad. 

 

I do understand that most of the front gate is there for the big 3, and many of those fans are only there for one division, and don't care how good or bad the racing in that division is, or how good it is in the classes they aren't there to watch. It's a hostage crisis if they have to sit through some good racing to watch one driver leave the field behind in the division they are there to see. What I'm talking about doesn't chase those people off, and it keeps the fans of competition too, plus it allows the lower budget drivers in the back gate too. 

Edited by FanJim24, 15 June 2019 - 07:52 PM.

[kaw1109]

One of my old buddy's told me the other day he likes going to Lernerville, but he said it gets boring at time's watching the same 3 cars in each division win every week, the only reason he keeps coming back is that its close and he's not into traveling around. I would not mind seeing a 4th division at Lernerville sure its nice, usually leaving there at a decent time but I would stay to watch, a decent field of mini stocks could possibly raise the pay a little for the big 3..