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Honey....

The rules for the limited late and pure stock already exist (and work) in nesmith (durrence layne)

They allowed either option ( or at least did)
I think the 2 could co-exist with rules enforcement

Can we all just cut the track some slack here...... It's the first year for this group and it's not like the weather has let them get many nights in so that they can try to see where they need to work on things .
Yes, it was a long night. They are not using transponders right now, so that is some of the line up problems. Personally, I Hope that changes for next year... Should speed things up.

It was my first time there and hope to make it a couple more times to show my support to a group that is putting an effort into reviving the place for years to come. Thanks to Dennis and the staff for all the work they have and will put in. Appreciate what they have done so far.....

Bill Slade

DQ for the 20j ? What happened?

Pretty smart idea on their part...

Their stock series is based on 602 motors and now a guy can "move up" and not need to buy a motor.

And some of the authorized street stock builders are using the Johnson fab frame... by the time you buy a stock , you might as well go this route....

Or maybe this is Nesmith's way of cultivating a replacement of the stocks as a feeder ,only time will tell

I think your format will have a lot to do with it.....

 

I think one of the reasons that  Vince's race (as well as the 2 Penn Ohio races thus far) is so well attended is that it is a ONE day event with a great payout...

 

I know myself, I'd rather run a one day show....

 

Promote and listen to the drivers and the gate will take care of itself.....

In my opinion, this is the style(Chevy, Dodge of Ford) they all should be...

He's right a triple disc ($730) Throw out bearing ($100) stock Saginaw 3 speed ($150) is more expensive than a used $800 Bert.  But it's the principle.  the name "Strictly Stock" should mean stock parts or stock replacement.  A Bert is not a triple disc isn't either.  I'm against Berts in a Street Stock even.  it's thinking like this that is killing the sport.  that class should be running stock flywheels.

First off.... Why in the hell is there ANY 'strictly stock' running a triple disk?

By rights , in my opinion , they shouldn't even by running a manual tranny....Automatics only...

Good catch, that did not read as intended.  By "previously" I meant during this past season.

 

Edited to read: is currently powered by an "Open Engine"

 

In other words, Corey, Terry, Joey, Aaron, etc. are not eligible for one.  The first will be given to a driver that used an open engine this season.  The second is available to all drivers listed.

 

Does that make more sense now?

That makes more sense.....

 

But the fact that the speedway and "The Crate Queen" need to give away 2 motors to get cars for next year is what REALLY makes no @#$%$# sense.

Your own press release has the value at $6600.... and that doesn't even get you "turn key"

 

So....How is this saving the racer money?

All the speedway has managed to do is sh#$ on the loyal drivers who put on a hell of a show every week....

If new ownership continues down this path for next year, sadly, they will get what they deserve....

A gutted division of sub-par racing....

 

R.I.P. Sportsman Division

Here we go....I have a question.

Lernerville rules state open motor weight is 3100/604 is 2900/602 is 2600.

I would venture to say that most of the guys running a crate motor have the newer design SS chassis which is a lighter car designed to take advantage of the weight break.

If I'm running an older, heavier car.... I may need a "larger" open motor to compete with these cars. And I can maintain (freshen up) myself, unlike a crate motor.

 

The track mandates crate motors for next year.... thats $5700 for a motor, if I choose.

What do i do for a chassis so that I'm competetive? Are the weights going to increase for next year to 3100 across the board, with a small cut fot the 602?

Or do i have to spend another couple grand on a chassis to be able to hang with those that already have the lighter cars?

 

Wow.... The crate only option really saved me a whole lot of money!!!! ....Or just drove me completely out of racing !!!!

Ppms just pulled 51 cars allowing open motors to compete against crates with crates running right there with the open stuff. The only reason to mandate crates is to line the pockets of ole grimy gash herself. It's pathetic that tracks just bend over for anyone who throws out a couple bucks instead of asking racers what they want

This ,to me, is proof that "open motors" and the crate motors can coexist and be competitive with each other.

NeSmith is doing it with a Street Stock series.... 602's and limited "do it yourself" motor options

Going straight 604 or 602 crate motors is just a backroom kick back....IMO

Vince,

 

I'm not taking sides on this one.... but I think  you need to look at the bigger picture .

For the last 3 years other tracks have worked with you and either not scheduled or had no points when you have originally scheduled this race.

If memory serves, Mercer is a track that waived points for the division when you put together the 1st race.

Unfortunatly, this years original date rained out and that's why things are where they are today. Racers are all able to make thier own decisions.

If you want to come on this board and bash Mercer at this point, I hope you are ready for the lack of cooperation you may come across in years to come if you are able to continue .

With Sharon not running stocks, I think Mercer could pull a decent car count without making it a point race, but thats my opinion.

I'm thinking that much... Was wondering how long Vicki and Mike where going to wait to do this. neSmith has had a series for stocks for a coule years. Shawn did a great job with Penn-Ohio last year and showed there was a place for a series like this... Now I'm afraid they are going is f@&$ him the same they did Stan