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The truth is that we have been in talks to bring this show to our schedule. Details are forthcoming.

You should have been in talks with Lima about getting your weekly class of sprints a Friday night race at their track, instead of the other way around. Or at least you run a NRA show and they run a non wing show.

Bob Fricke is an idiot. The LAST thing WRP needs, is Bob Fricke, or anyone else like him!

WRP's revolving door of promoters, and the changing of the schedule (even though some of it was needed/had to be done), has hurt the place more than anything else.

First off, I will plainly and flatly say, I LOVE non-wing sprint cars. That's what I grew up watching, and would still rather watch more than anything else (along with Champ Dirt cars, and midgets...AKA USAC cars)

WRP has a good turn out of them, and they put on some of the best racing I have ever seen. Matter of fact, in 2009 I finally conned a guy into going to WRP. The man was the sponsor of the USAC sprint car champion in 1975, but had stopped going to the races because of 'it's too damn dusty nowdays', and 'they have become 'follow the leader boring high speed parades'. After the sprint feature that first night at WRP, Sam stood up, and announced "That was the best sprint car feature I think I've ever seen in my life!!!". Pretty powerful coming from a man that had seen races from coast to coast for over 60 years!

I personally am tired of people -still- crying for the return of the stock cars. I've got nothing against the stocks, or the guys who run them, but like it has been stated on here many times before, less than 15 cars showing up is a joke. Nobody can fault the guys -who did- bring their cars to run at WRP, the 'fault' lies with the folks -who did not- bring their cars to race at WRP.

And truth be told, the same goes for the winged 360s. Where the hell are they at on the nights WRP has run them? I've been to 5 wing 360 races at WRP...the biggest car count they had was 17 IIRC. And there were no more fans in the stands those nights, than there were for any other weekly show. Sorry, I don't buy the BS of 'If they would run the wing 360s every week, the pits and the stands would be full'....... WRP has run the winged 360 the very next night after LMP has run them. Where were the cars and the fans? Ohio is full of 410-360-305 winged tracks. Is there a law that says the state of OH can't have a weekly non-wing track? The biggest races WRP has ever had, have been the All-Star Speedweek shows, and the Jack Hewitt Classic races.

Speedweek has a 'following'. People follow the series, and go to all of the races, and some of those folks have went for every year, or several years...plus as anybody who knows about sprint cars knows, the All-Stars are pretty much the same as/pretty damn close to, the Outlaws.

The Hewitt Classic, is a 1 day show, is non-sanctioned/open competition, and has only been held at WRP for 2 years. Both years the stands were FULL!! And the racing has been top shelf (just like it is every week).

What WRP should look into, is co-promoting with Gas City, and Kokomo. Then guys could run 3 nights on the weekend, at 1/4 mile tracks, all within 125 miles of each other. (Gas City runs Friday Lawrenceburg runs Saturday, they are 143 miles apart, Putnamville also runs Sat., GC to Put is 126 miles, but WRP is only 95 miles from GC)

Like Landon said, this year, Dean stepped on his winky, when he scheduled the race the day before OSKY (BIG paying race in Iowa), and right before the non-wing nationals at Knoxville. Plus USAC kinda screwed any track running non-wing, when they adopted a 'non-competition clause'. The clause basically said, any USAC driver running for 'National Driving Champion' is not allowed to race 24 hours prior to, or 24 hours following a USAC race, at a track that doesn't have at least 1 USAC date, if that track is located within 200 miles of the track that did host a USAC race.

WRP is within 200 miles of Lawrenceburg, Bloomington, Gas City, Kokomo, Winchester, and Toledo=strike 1

All of those tracks run either Friday, Saturday, or Sunday...which is within 24 hours before or after=strike 2

All of those tracks had at least 1 USAC date, and WRP did not=strike 3, as far as a USAC driver chasing the championship is concerned.

That is why you didn't see any USAC regulars at WRP in 2010, yet WRP still had 30 sprinters on average.

As far as the compacts go.....let um' race! What is their purse....virtually nothing! They have just as many cars showing up as the stock cars did. Folks want to complain about what does and does not put butts in the seats.... the night Jeff Kimes started from the rear of the Compact feature, for a bonus if he won, I counted 28 adults (and several more 'kids') in the section over from us, that had on green and white homemade 'KIMES 31' shirts. That's $336 in admission alone!!! not counting what those folks spent at the concessions.

The folks complaining about attendance....
1-How many people have you brought along with you to WRP?
2-How many of them had never been to a race before?
3-How many people do you know who used to go to the races, but had stopped...and since you brought them, they now come every week?
4-Have those people also brought some of their friends, who too had quit going to the races?
5-Have you brough kids along with you, and then taken those kids into the pits after the races were over, to see the race cars, and meet the people who drive/drove them?

I personally have positive answers for all 5 questions, what about you?

Great Post.

Its not the racers fault that the "PROMOTER" cant PROMOTE the product and fill the seats.......average of 30 non-wing sprintcars a race..... yet they dont even have a sign off state route 33? you cant expect people to just show up if they dont even know about the place...... you can copy lima's schedule all you want but why would a fan want to watch the same show friday and saturday? make WMP a place worth coming too not a watered down lima!

Landon is correct here. You can ask most promoters and they will tell you that the back gate is where they make the money these days. Most tracks are not getting the people in the stands like they used to, so the rely on the back gate to pay for the program.

This means you want to find the key classes that bring the most cars and buy the most pit passes on a regular basis. And the non wing sprint cars are bringing more and more cars every week, and you are not seeing the same thing you saw the night before at Limaland.

A joint venture between Limaland and WMP would be great, IF Lima would agree to run the WMP classes. It would not help any class other than the wing 360's because they would be the only cars running the 2 tracks, and they typically only have enough cars for a full feature, give or take a few.

Just my opinion, but running the non wing cars in Ohio is a good thing. WMP has found a unique market to this area with the non wing cars., and the growing number of cars each week prove that.

Anybody remember when Limaland was a non wing track, it was a long time ago, but they also had a great weekly turnout of non wing cars. It can be done again.

Greg Shobe posted his telephone number on here for this exact reason. If anyone has questions about 2011, call and ask him instead of speculating and fishing for rumors.

I left a message on his phone a day or two after he posted his telephone number. It was a yes or no answer that I needed, and I still have not received a return call. Understand he is a busy man, just thought I would of heard some kind of reply by now.

Well Skip I just installed a fuel cell in the son's compact. Removed the tank that was uder the car and put the cell in rear of car. After doing this now I'm more concerned then ever as now I have a cell that has a 35lb pressure pump inside the car now instead of under it. (takes that much pressure to run fuel injecteted engine) Now I'm going to be forced to deck in the car somehow to keep him seperate from cell. These cars are not like a stocker or mod where the pump is on the engine. Not for sure yet if this was a good plan.

Could be worse, because they have no extra room, the fuel pumps on the sprint cars is between your legs and they are turning the same RPM as the cam. They are also fuel injected. The fuel cell is a much much safer way to go, good move putting one in your son's car.