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NFS if you look at my past post I said fans want to see fast race cars with talented racers which, non wing racing is !!! I like non wing racing . Most tracks have 3 classes worth watching ! Can you say that for WMP ? does compacts fit your fast cars, talented racers bill ? it is hard to sell that as racing in this area. Do you understand that the businesses that have the most money invested in racing advertising in this area do not get to advertise at waynesfield ? I would like to see non wing on there schedule. But can you imagine starting a wing sprint car track in the middle of indiana ? that area will not support it !!! its not going to happen. Because there fans , teams , advertising dollars are invested in non wing racing. You would be looking for a new fans base, new race teams, new marketing partners. The deck would be stacked against those that would try.

NFS you have no clue !!! Most businesses that advertise do it in a diverse way ! YES , if the stands were full there would be businesses waiting in line to capsure that audience!!! but you do not know how marketing works, And I get paid to do just that !!! Limaland is a very nice facilities, but that is not why businesses choose to do advertising there. Its about the money those fans are going to spend at those businesses !!! And those fans go there because they like the product !!!Oakshade is a crap hole but the stands are packed because people like the product !!! It is not the facilities, its the fans that those businesses are trying to capsure !!! but what do I Know about advertising !!! I don't know how anyone can look this man in the eyes and tell him that running the same cars is going to work this time LOL !!! So I will make it easy for you NFS .... A GOOD PRODUCT= fANS=MONEY !!! Waynesfield is a very nice place, it does not need 50 years to have success as you would suggest. It needs a good product !!! fANS ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP FOR THAT SHOW !!! but you already know that !!! you have seen it with your own eyes !!!

I don't think re-packaging the same show will work IMO !!! There are businesses that support race teams in this area, and some who don't and are not doing to. It would be a good place to start with the known businesses that support racing !!! ( MOST OF THE BUSINESSES IN THIS AREA THAT SUPPORT RACING HAVE THERE NAME ON A 360 SPRINT, E-MOD, OR STOCK CAR ) So for the known businesses that support racing in this area, WAYNESFIELD DOES NOT SUPPORT THERE EFFORTS TO ADVERTISE !!! So if they want to get involved at waynesfield they have to spend more money to put there name on a compact, truck,or mini sprint.... so 50 people can watch them go around the track !!! ( not much advertising value there !!! ) Waynesfield is ignoring this businesses efforts to advertise. Not a smart business move to ignore the businesses that THAT YOU KNOW FOR A FACT) that are supporting racing in this area !!! There is a racing advertising community ( the ones that support tracks and teams) they are being left out ! If you do what you have always done, you will get what you have always got !!! It has not worked in 5 years, what is wrong with trying something different I ask ? Bottom line ,there has to be butts in the stands for advertising to be sold at the track or with a race team. O buy the way the Woo had record attendance for the 2010 year !!! There is still growth at short tracks across this country, alot due to nascar out pricing themselves. Race fans are showing up to watch local racing at short tracks, so don't look at the empty seats at nascar events and think all tracks are crying poverty. A lot of them are doing quite well !!!

Car counts are not the problem . I would rather have a track with 1000 fans to watch 50 cars .... then 50 fans to watch 1000 cars . Heck if you can get the stands full with 10 cars that would be a good problem to have. lol There are a lot of tracks that don't want to many cars , they like somewhere around 25 to 30 cars so they don't have to run to many b or c-mains . But in the end fans have to buy what your selling, and if they were ...we would not be talking about this now. You have to have thick skin to be a promoter or manager ask Bob fricke . He has been beat up on Racestud as bad as anyone. But Bob has thick skin !!! He doesn't change the formula because of Racestud Message boards ..... if racers , fans , and busineses support the track then he is doing the job !!! but there is always room for improvement .

Act, that would be better than doing the same thing that is not working !!! Is there any doubt in anyones mind that a person like Gene Frankurt could turn this place around !!! Now we know he is employed by limaland ( ex promoter of Attica ) but it takes that kind of know how if you want success !!! ....because you are up against promoters at other racing track that are getting it right , and they are having success at it !!! those who think limaland success is because of the college are wrong !!! I didn't say it doesn't help but what about Attica , fremont, eldora, oakshade no racing college to those towns ! just promoters putting on shows that work in there areas !!! and until waynsefield can put on the show this area will support there will be no change ! if you give a customer the product they want ... they will buy !!!! No one is buying it yet after 4 or 5 years ! All businesses that don't sell there products or services dont Succeed !!! We will just have to wait and see, I would never question Greg good intentions WE ALL KNOW WHAT A GOOD MAN HE IS !!!! Thats something we all can agree on !!! Sorry if I upset anyone, that is never my intention. Promoting a race track is not easy some are successful at it, while others struggle but If I were promoting a track, I would model it off of tracks that are having success.It not as easy as putting up a Mcdonalds or is it ( you like whats on the menu, at a price you can afford) or this would not be the richest franchise in food ! No one here want to see waynesfield not succeed !!!